INPA/EDIABAS - NCS expert

[EP Service]

Hello
I am new on this forum
Is there anyone who can help me find an manual or any discriptions how to use NCS Expert.

Thanks
Eric

[David Mc]

During a wet afternoon I actually translated some of the NCS Help file into English if that is of any use. I also have handbooks somewhere for GT1, SSS & OPS etc and a guide to INPA in English.

[EP Service]

DIS GT1 SSS is no problem I have all the instructions

But for NCS Expert I don't know how it works
the same for INPA

The program is working on the our PC but I would like to learn en know more about it

So any manual is welcome

Thanks
Eric

[David Mc]

Eric,

You have email.

[EP Service]

and thanks for your help

[MadMonkeyMan]

David mc:

Can you pleas send me you translated manual for NCS to??. i think it is use full to have.. I have "learn" it by "trial and (not so many) error".
and finally made the change so running light are on with ignition.

Buy the way you have GT1 working with inpa interface? if so.. does auto identify of vehicle work for you?


Regards
mmm

[sonspot]

David Mc, long time no see, i've not been able to get my ver of NCS Expert to work, so i just left it alone for some time now, if you can send some knowledge my way that would be great.

thanks

[David Mc]

You have email.

[ac427]

Hi David,

May i please have some instructions for NCS Expert


thank you



..ac427

[David Mc]

PM me with an email address and I will send you what little I have.

[ac427]

PM me with an email address and I will send you what little I have.

Hi David i think my account is to new to allow PM'ing

can you send any info you to ***


thanks

...ac427

[1968camaro]

I am trying to code a new steering angle sensor, can I get any documentation on that, NCS help into english and INPA in English? thanks Josh weberjw at hotmail

[pshovest]

During a wet afternoon I actually translated some of the NCS Help file into English if that is of any use. I also have handbooks somewhere for GT1, SSS & OPS etc and a guide to INPA in English.

David,
Can you send me the NCS and INPA guides? Thanks.

[1968camaro]

David Mc is my new car god!

[lawyeradam]

Hi David, I too could use your advice on Ediabas / inpa. I have cables and software but don't know how to get it all working. I need to reset air bag fault. thx for help! I don't seem to be able to pm or email in this forum but my email is Lawyeradam @ gmail.com

thx!

[radudurbac]

Hi David,
Could you please send me your NCS Expert instructions/guide?

Thanks

[David Mc]

PM me with an email address.

[lawyeradam]

how oh how do you pm someone on this site????

[David Mc]

Left click on their user id and select email or PM.

[radudurbac]

Please send me an email or PM with your email address as i can't do it. when i left click on your id the email option does not appear. it does appear on other users though.. :-??

Thanks

[srhutch]

Please send me an email or PM with your email address as i can't do it. when i left click on your id the email option does not appear. it does appear on other users though.. :-??

Thanks


David, I get the same, any chance you could email or PM you adress for this info as well

thanks.

[lalaw]

I would like the manual also.
Thanks in advance
Lars

[goricanbmw]

Hay
Does anyone know how to code a new pdc modul with ncs. The old one is broken and I bougt a new one.

[gtd86]

Hi, could you please send me this info aswell,would really like to see what i can do with it, should be able to enable tv while driving on m3? cheers.

[szwajcarek]

Hi
Could you please send me that info, because I am not able to write you any PM or Email.

Thanks in advance

[nick4jc]

Hey David.. I'll like to have all the information u have on GT1 DIS, SSS, INPA, EDIABAS and etc.. U got PM.. Thanks david!

Regards,
Nick

[Piyavit]

Hi David MC
I would like to have link for INPA software and Inpa and ediabas manual.
Please send to me at mr_piyavit@hotmail.com

thanks for your advance

[badsharki]

During a wet afternoon I actually translated some of the NCS Help file into English if that is of any use. I also have handbooks somewhere for GT1, SSS & OPS etc and a guide to INPA in English.
Could you email me handbooks for GT1,SSS,OPS and NCS.
10x in advance. :thanks:

[mistero]

Hi David Mc.

I also have problem with this:
>i've not been able to get my ver of NCS Expert to work, so i just left it alone for some time now, if you can send some knowledge my way that would be great.

Kind regards, Thomas - thomas @ alleen39 . dk

[rivera2669]

Hello
I'm looking for user manual or any info on how to use the Ediabas / inpa software.
thanks
e-mail rivera2669@bellsouth.net

[David Mc]

There are many versions of EDIABAS circulating which are incomplete and do not support NCS or NFS. You need to go tp the 4shared website referred to in post #607 (page 25 of the "Carsoft Success" thread) as it contains fully functional files and INPA/NCS help files. When prompted, "INPA" is the word you need.

[clutchplate]

Hi Everyone, does anyone know where I can purchase or download NCS Expert ? I've done an auto to manual conversion and I need to change some options and recode my modules, GT1 can't seem to change the vehicle order, I know NCS Expert can do it..

[clutchplate]

lol, ok. got that copy u spoke of David...

right, but now.. I installed NCS expert and it reads the ZCS/sa/gm/vn numbers and all the from IKE,EWS or another it lists. It can talk to the car and everything, but once I've entered all my details and I goto Enter FA... to add and remove FA or SA option codes the list comes up empty.. its not listing all the options I have on the car :///
any idea how to fix this ?

[drummrr]

I would also like instructions/manual/help in English for Ediabas or NCS. I`ve got working versions of the software but I don`t know how to use it. i appreciate whatever help anyone can give.

[xpicer]

hello david, i am trying the ps inpa but do not have sucess, i was wondering if there has been a change on the ps. thank you

[David Mc]

There have been no password changes but the passwords are case-sensitive and should be entered without quotation marks.

[xpicer]

There have been no password changes but the passwords are case-sensitive and should be entered without quotation marks.

Thank you very much, all your work is much awsome

[davidgsk]

There have been no password changes but the passwords are case-sensitive and should be entered without quotation marks.


HI Buddy;

I work for BMW dealer before. Now i am on my own and i am looking for a powerful tool for BMW.

I understand those BMW field engineers uses INPA.

Could you tell me how to use it? i guess i need the software,hardware and user manual.

Greatly appreciate yr help buddy..

[David Mc]

http://www.4shared.com/dir/19068906/75021629/NCS.html the magic word is INPA

[danthebmman]

NCS is not able to do any coding!!! NCS was designed for bmw manufacture diagnostics which gives the manufacturer more abilities to run tests and run deeper into ctrl modules for Diagnostics etc.

for example. In the srs system ncs is able to deactivate airbags etc! (all except the driver airbag of course!). The dealership can do this with dis and sss by request and filling out miles of paper work! but they also need to purchase a dvd from manufacturer with the codes on it to do so which costs lots of $$$$.

To do proper coding you need to use win kfp which is the manufacturer equivalent to a dealers SSS. And again win kfp is a lot more powerful than SSS with extra functions!

I have a full running system with ncs and win kfp!!! :) :) :)

[IcemanBHE]

What do you mean you cant do coding in NCS? lol

I call changing car/key memory a code change.

And how do I get winkpf?

[Schitzo]

NCS is not able to do any coding!!! NCS
NCS is by far one of the best coding tools out there.

[David Mc]

WinKFP is actually for programming rather than coding.

[davidgsk]

Hi Buddy;

I need to get hold of the ncs and win kfp.

pls mail me: davidgsk@gmail.com

thx buddy

[Ali72]

Hi David, i need some manuals for GT1 and SSS if you have, please, my email is
acoman72@gmail.com
Thanks

[tonybear]

thanks for the info Davidmc :)

[se93]

There are many versions of EDIABAS circulating which are incomplete and do not support NCS or NFS. You need to go tp the 4shared website referred to in post #607 (page 25 of the "Carsoft Success" thread) as it contains fully functional files and INPA/NCS help files. When prompted, "INPA" is the word you need.

Hello there David Mc. I am new to the forum and am trying to learn the basics on how to setup the INPA for my 2000 328Ci. I was reading/looking through the sharing folder you have and got even more confused. I guess being new to this, is going to be a common symptom. I wanted to ask you, what exactly do i need to download to make the system work as i am mentally blocked with so much information. I do know that i am going to need a BMW 20 PIN to 16 PIN female adapter cable OBD 2 OBD2 and a USB OBD2 Vag Com KKL Interface cable for Audi VW Skoda. I will also have to make some changes in windows xp, but what needs to be installed, the INPA alone or a combination of files? I am looking to be able to scan the vehicle, get code information, erase codes, manange oil service and maintenance interval lights, interior programming and the more options the better. I would greatly appreciate some input to get me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Regards,
Mark

[David Mc]

I would recommend that you use INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v 6.4.3 from the NCS folder. You will also need to download and read the English setup instructions. Begin with INPA and EDIABAS and you can upgrade to NCS etc later as you gain more experience. When purchasing your VAGCOM KKL interface, try and get one based on the FTI232R* rather than the FTI232B* chip as the R chip can have signals inverted via programming, whereas the B chip will need to be modified by physically soldering connections. This is a sensible place to start as it establishes the necessary baseline to allow you to graduate to NCS, DIS and SSS as you become more proficient.

[se93]

I would recommend that you use INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v 6.4.3 from the NCS folder. You will also need to download and read the English setup instructions. Begin with INPA and EDIABAS and you can upgrade to NCS etc later as you gain more experience. When purchasing your VAGCOM KKL interface, try and get one based on the FTI232R* rather than the FTI232B* chip as the R chip can have signals inverted via programming, whereas the B chip will need to be modified by physically soldering connections. This is a sensible place to start as it establishes the necessary baseline to allow you to graduate to NCS, DIS and SSS as you become more proficient.

Good morning David Mc:

Thankyou very much for posting this information. I greatly appreciate it!! Now, what is the difference optionswise between INPA v3.01 and verison 5.2? Also, is upgrading to the 5.2 version a matter of just installing the software over the 3.01 version? Also, there is an NCS file where i downloaded the INPA 6.4.3 software. Do this mean that the NCS software can be used together with this version software? What exactly is the NCS for? I am going to continue reading to gain more knowledge of this very interesting subject! Thanks a million.

Regards,
Mark Perez

[David Mc]

Stick with INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v6.4.3 for the moment. Although this version can be upgraded to INPA v5.02/EDIABAS V6.4.7, the process is complicated by 2 factors, the first is that you will need to run a toolset 32 setup program in order to create folders that the later software will utilise and the second is that the later software was developed for use with WIBU security box programming to prevent unauthorised distribution, I have played around with various update editions, which will not install properly as they are missing the necessary files to facilitate complete installation. This can be overcome by running a program to unlock the software, but the program is only available in German, or using a cracked version of the software (not too keen on this option due to the possible contamination of the software pedigree during the reverse-engineering process). EasyDIS was updated in December 2005 and INPA v5.02/EDIABAS v 6.4.7 appears to have been released around February 2006. V6.4.3 will handle cars up to the E90, so it will probably do me at least for the time being. NCS is a coding program that you can install during the installation of INPA/EDIABAS which is used to alter the options configured on your car's computer modules. There are guides on the 4shared website which will give you some idea of how it can be used.

[se93]

Thanks once again David. I am going to get a hold of the necessary hardware and am going to read in detail the INPA installation files and how to's to get familiarized with it, so we do it right the first time. Does the INPA enable me to change setting for example on the power door locks, windows, etc? Does the INPA do much more than the carsoft?

[David Mc]

INPA is a diagnostic interpreter program. It talks to the car using EDIABAS which is the protocol that can be used to diagnose, code and program your car's modules. Because it is a factory developed and used product, INPA can provide an awesome amount of information which would be hard to beat with any aftermarket product. I have heard all the rants about Carsoft, but the bottom line is that it has a place in the market for users who have limited mechanical and diagnostic experience but do their own basic servicing and do not want to be bent over by a dealer every time a light comes on in the cluster. What Carsoft can't hurt, EDIABAS can toast in a heartbeat if used incorrectly.

[ferpe]

Hi David et al,

having read this section of the forum I got INPA 3.0.1 running and performing well:lol. Actually so well I have got into my first problem, more of later:redspot. But first some help around interfaces:

- I use a KL interface from www.blafusel.de which works perfectly with a PCMCIA serial card. (My computer ( a Fujitsu T4010) said Com1 was taken but just forced set the PCMCIA to Com1 in device manager and now it works). The site is run by a German guy who really knows his way with diagnosis, he himselves uses it for WW Audi cars but also describes how to make BMW versions of it and why it is different. He also has a shop at odb2.shop.eu where he sell DIY kits for interfaces (they build kit cost 15 Euros!) . It was very good to actually build it yourselves, I now understand what the interface is doing and why. His texts and shop is in English as well, well worth reading to understand what is going on and how to modify your interfaces for BMW if needed.

- When running INPA I actually combine first running BMWScanner 1.4.0 demo (it is for free!) to get an overview of the units including errors, then I run INPA to dive deeper and clear codes in the modules. Everything was fine until I ran a selftest of my Nav computer and then hit F7 (system something), then it suddenly wanted a software CD. Now it will not leave this position and the Nav CDs I have don't have the software it want.

I can get it to leave this screen and allow me to run the radio by doing another selftest but the Nav mode want work and main menu is locked, I can not select bord computer etc. My BMW is a 2001-08 M3 Cabrio (BR91).

Any idea what to do or what CD to get hold of?

[se93]

Is the INPA software similar in function to the GT1/EasyDIS? Are they used each for different purposes or can they both be installed into a laptop and uses interchangeably? I have been reading quite a bit today with regards to INPA and now am curious with the GT1/EasyDIS.


Regards,
Mark

[ferpe]

INPA is the internal BMW checking software, as such it is fast and efficient to check a unit and clear error codes but the UI is basic (but understandable). It has the advantge of being a Windows program. Coding has to be done with the crude NCS software, this is hard to understand, for basic coding of a unit you push a few butons but for detailed coding it uses script files that you edit and run. How to do it is described in a few docs that is part of the NCS download folder.

GT1/EasyDIS is what the dealers have, it has a more user friendly UI but is also more complicated to get going as it is a total Unix (SCOUnix) system with the GT1/EasyDIS software working as the only software running in fullscreen mode. To run it on a Windows system you need to first make an extra virtual HW system using VMWare on which you later install the GT1/EasyDIS system.

[se93]

I have been doing some extensive searching to locate the Vag Com KKL interface based on the FT232R that David Mc mentioned earlier in this thread. All i can find up to this moment is the Vag Com KKL interface based on the FT232B

David Mc:

When working with the installation of the INPA/EDIBAS softwar, do i need to install the VAG-COM kkl interface drivers first and then install the INPA software or is there another order needed to follow for adequate installation. I read the INPA setup file (english) from your files, and i saw no mention of this.


Here is an email i got from a friend who told me to follow this procedure:

To actually install the INPA software and get it to work, you first install the drivers for the VAG-COM interface. Use the correct driver for your operating system from here (http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm). You have to set some options on the serial port in device manager. (right click my computer, properties, hardware tab, device manager, find the newly added COM port under serial ports I think?, right click, properties). You need to I think set the latency timer from 16 to 2. Not 100% sure on this, I will check next time I reboot into windows. Also, you must change the USB com port to com1. You will probably already have a com1 port associated with a physical serial port on your computer. Change this com port to something like com3, and then change the adaptor you just added to com1.

Then you need to adjust EDIABAS settings (the way INPA communicates with the car). In C:\EDIABAS\bin edit ediabas.ini (note the path to the EDIABAS folder may be different, i.e. it might be in some other subfolder. Wherever you installed it.). The following line should be present and not commented out (; before a line means its commented out, meaning it isnt even read by the computer).
Quote:
Interface=STD:OBD
And then INPA should work

Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark


INPA is the internal BMW checking software, as such it is fast and efficient to check a unit and clear error codes but the UI is basic (but understandable). It has the advantge of being a Windows program. Coding has to be done with the crude NCS software, this is hard to understand, for basic coding of a unit you push a few butons but for detailed coding it uses script files that you edit and run. How to do it is described in a few docs that is part of the NCS download folder.

GT1/EasyDIS is what the dealers have, it has a more user friendly UI but is also more complicated to get going as it is a total Unix (SCOUnix) system with the GT1/EasyDIS software working as the only software running in fullscreen mode. To run it on a Windows system you need to first make an extra virtual HW system using VMWare on which you later install the GT1/EasyDIS system.

Hello Ferpe:

Did you use and follow the installation instructions from David Mc's shared folder? Did you encounter any slight difficulties at all or was it an esay straightforward instrallation? When it was functioning, how did you like how the INPA worked?

Will the Carsoft west replacement interface/cables work with the INPA setup?

Regards,
Mark

[David Mc]

The main thing is to set up the interface = STD:OBD in the C:/EDIABAS/Bin/EDIABAS.ini file. I actually set up and viewed INPA before I had even purchased an interface. INPA will boot up using the latest configuration settings each time you open the program anyway. If you use Carsoft cables you will have to establish a connection by using Carsoft to diagnose a module (usually the DME), then switch to INPA so that the program recognises the interface.

[se93]

Thanks David Mc. I am going to start off with the VAG-COM KKL interface cable to get INPA up and running to get a feel for this diagnostic software. I will continue to research and start with the basics on the INPA program and gradually obtain more knowledge and keep on going. I have a file full of the pdf's from your shared folder along with the INSA software. Once the interface comes in, i will definitely let you know how things go. I greatly appreciate your valuable resources and the time you have taken to answer my many doubts and uncertainties.

Thanks,
Mark

[ferpe]

@se93,

it is a good idea to use the BMW scanner to check that your KKL interface is working (actually a BMW modified KL interface is better then a KKL=for later VAG models, see the bluefusel site why), the BMW scanner demo version (1.4.0 DEMO= the only BMW scanner version to accept an KL interface) seems to be very tolerable on the interface side also accepting that you have another Com port as 1. The EBAY INPA serial packages have a BMW modfied KL interface as I understand it, buy one of these and use the software from the NCS folder.

http://www.bmw-scanner.com/?lang=eng

The other good things is that BMW scanner gives you a scan logfile which show which units your car have and not (INPA lists all possible units and you have to gradually work out which your car has) and their number of faults (you can't view them in detail and erase them in the demo version). It will also give you the cryptic translation of the german shorthand like ITK = Instrument Cluster, SPMFT=drivers side mirror memory (screencopy the 3 scan screens and you have the translation + your cars units present, the logfile only give you the shorthand german acronyms)

Once that works you would set up INPA according to the instructions in the folder, I follwed the the instructions in the ENGLISH SETUP.pdf, it worked perfectly.

Once again the interface + serial port is the most trouble so use BMW scanner demo to check it out (it is straigthforward to install, setup and use), if this does not work INPA wont. And yes you need a good PCMCIA adapter set to Com1 (USB adapters wont work). I bought the cheapest on EBAY, PC riheral TECHNOLOGY, its second serial port set to Com1 worked perfectly.

[se93]

Hi Ferpe:

I have read a few posts of people who have purchased the The EBAY INPA serial packages and have had them function well. This may be the route i will take when it comes to resolving the serial package requirement. My Sony Vaio has a serial port on it, so the INPA serial package would be a direct install with the need of any additional adapters. In this case, i would have to configure the serial port to com1 and install the drivers, right? Thankyou for the tip on using the scan tool to test the serial package before going into the INPA installation. I am going to follow procedure as you have indicated and makes lots of sense to diagnose/repair a problem with the serial package before going further and causing more headaches.

By the way, are there buffer setting or any other settings that need to be modified in the windows XP operating system with regards to the EBAY INPA serial package?

Has anyone else had good experience with the EBAY INPA serial packages that can comment on it?

Thanks,
Mark Perez

[ferpe]

@se93,

BMW scanner and EDIABAS/INPA are both using the serial type of interface, the so called KL type (which is an interface used for standard OBD testing. It only transposes the levels of the computers serial RS232 interface to OBD standard. The other type called an ELM interface have the interface chip to ask the OBD questions based on queries from the computer, it therefore can not be used with Carsoft, BMW scanner or EDIABAS/INPA as these all require to talk "directly" with the cars electronic units).

The KL interface uses the K line for the data communication and rather unique for BMW the L line for some awakening of the units. It also uses some other lines of an RS232 interface for checking if battery is on etc. That is why we talk of a modified KL interface. Therefore bying a standard OBD KKL interface (which uses the L line for K data communiction in addition to the K line, therefore called a KKL interface) might not fit perfectly with what a BMW expects. Therefore buying the EBAY INPA packages is a good idea as these uses the BMW modified KL interface.

I did not need to change any buffer settings etc, everything was left to standard. The ENGLISH SETUP.pdf from the NCS folder on 4share (seek the post with the link) tells you how the set the PATH variable, this is the only setting to be done once you are sure you have an OK interface on Com1.

Nav problem solved;
Using INPA I somehow shot my Nav computer software, I got hold of the Nav OS I needed (in my case I have a MkIII computer/CD unit so I used V17.1) and loaded it according to the Nav forums instructions, it solved the problem. Now I need to configure the software settings=coding with NCS Expert interactive mode (all described in the folder of NCS documentation, in (I guess) a Chinese english way:) but fully understandable).

The bottom line is that INPA is not 100% bullet proof, you can screw things up a bit but I was poking around pretty agressively (to learn, and learn I did:D).

[Chuck I]

Hi, I'm trying to set up ncsexpr... when I run the program, I get "CHASSISis faulty"... I see that all the chassis folders in the DATEN folder are empty.... Can anyone tell me what I didn't load properly? Thanks, Chuck I


Hi, I'm trying to set up ncsexpr... when I run the program, I get "CHASSISis faulty"... I see that all the chassis folders in the DATEN folder are empty.... Can anyone tell me what I didn't load properly? Thanks, Chuck I
OK.. I re intalled it and now I have everything loaded... Now I hve to work on the interface... Thanks Chuck I

[Joylove]

Hi

I have a working copy of INPA V5.0.2, NCS Expert V3.0.8 with Ediabas 6.4.7. It was from a torr3nt and was 347MB in size.

I can find no instructions or documentation for coding with NCS expert in the INPA CD folders. I wanted to add auto lock/unlocking on driveoff/ignition off.

Could somone direct me to some instructions please?

[David Mc]

http://www.4shared.com/dir/19068906/75021629/NCS.html the word you need is INPA .

[rendz8117al]

hello david
I would like to have link for INPA software and Inpa and ediabas manual.
Please send to me at ronal8117al@gmail.com

thanks before

[xisco44]

why my inpa is working an sporadically gets the ifh-0003 error data connection disturbed??

[David Mc]

1.4 IFH-0003: Data transmission HOST/Interface failed


Reason 1: In the Ediabas.ini file, the interface is set to STD:OBD. However, you have connected an ADS connector.
Solution 1: Modify the interface setting.


Reason 2: The data transmission failed when sending (e.g. short circuit in the line).
Solution 2: Get rid of the short circuit, for example.


Reason 3: Connector not connected or no power supplied.
Solution 3: Check whether the connector is connected and is supplied with power.


Reason 4: The device manager has been used to disable the FIFO buffer for COM1.
Solution 4: In the device manager (Windows XP: Enter “Start” ; “Control Panel” ;“System”

; “Hardware” ; “Device Manager” ; Ports (COM & LPT)), and then select COM1 from the ports. Then under the “Port Settings” tab, select “Advanced”. There must be a check-mark by “Use FIFO buffers” and “8” must be selected for the receive buffer and transmit buffer.

[Chuck I]

I have a question.. I have an 03 E85 and ECS Expert works fine on it... but I have an 07 E85 that it won't run on. It says invalid module #0407 in the FA. Is ECS Expert 3.0.8 only good up to a certain date? Thanks, Chuck I

[rondo]

Hi i think the ncs you have is ok but maybe 3.1.0 would be better the sp datum files need to be up dated to read newer cars

[Chuck I]

Hi i think the ncs you have is ok but the datum files need to be up dated to read newer cars Hey Rondo... are there updated Datum files? Thanks, Chuck I

[rondo]

sure in progman

[therocket]

Hi, is it possible to code a BMW E91 with NCS Expert? The model E91 does not apear in "NCS Choose CHASSIS Menu". :help

[CRIIM44]

Im hiting a few weird speedbumps with this setup. I went thru and installed everything properly it seems.

I am able to the INPA side to see and read codes properly.

Once i go to run NCS expert to do some VO editing the first error i get is cannot communicate with ECU

Then in INPA running its EDIABAS not intialized and with EDIABAS running its another error


Any insight would be awesome, most of the stuff ive been going off of has been german manuals with pictures to figure stuff out

[rusty1965]

david,
can you send me the ncs and inpa guides? Thanks.

can you send the guides to me please email is trev_1965@hotmail.co.uk thanks

[David Mc]

See post #64 above.

[duckdonald]

hello to everyone new to the forum ...
I am writing to ask for help
sorry for my English...

After I formatted the laptop problems with NCS expert ..

inpa 5.0 is ok work all test
dis v57 is ok with opps
sss v32 is ok with opps
bmw scanner 2.01 is ok
NCS Expert with OBD2 ediabas (serial) not working
NCS Expert with OBD2 ediabas (USB) not working

invalid FA - Coapi error 1000
no read ECU

car is an E61-2005

before formatting everything was ok ...
software installed is the same ediabas-6.4.3-full

thank you in advance I hope someone knows help me.

[mattmartindrift]

have you properly configured your ediabas.ini file for the interface you're using?

[David Mc]

When you loaded INPA v5.02/EDIABAS v6.4.7 did you do a fresh installation or just update from INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v6.4.3 ? There are many incomplete versions of INPA/EDIABAS in circulation, some of which do not have a functional version of NCS. If the software came from China on a disk or a bittorrent site, it is probably incomplete.

[duckdonald]

ah ... In fact, before I updated version 4.0 with Impa 5.0 downloaded from torrent ..
now I just installed the 6.4.3-full-ediabas downloaded from torrent ..

only that I NOT have the old version that was installed on the computer. Where can I find?
because of 'aid for now

configuration files ediabas.ini and odb.ini are old ones I had saved.
Impa and still works well

[David Mc]

Have a look in the NCS folder on the 4shared website, that is a tested version.

[duckdonald]

I do not have a linck? Please?

[David Mc]

It's all in here:-
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19702306&postcount=1481

[duckdonald]

sorry .. Password?

[David Mc]

It is all in there

[duckdonald]

ah ok .. found ... thanks for now. I'll try tomorrow

[duckdonald]

I tried the program folder of NCS, but the 'error remains the same ..
IMPA working properly

[David Mc]

If the laptop is a Dell, formatting can cause problems with INPA and DIS. Dell have lots of little "customised" drivers that apparently don't re-load and reek havoc with diagnostic software. I know of at least 2 members in Europe who have been unable to resolve the issues. Make sure that all antivirus software and firewalls are disabled.

[duckdonald]

I solved the problem ...
PC is an IBM T30 I have recovered files from a backup that I had a stick now everything ok ... (missing files in daten) thank you

David ... can you tell me the activation code for amp Logic 7 to be written with CAS ncs?

[duckdonald]

Ok... $677...

[RON7165994]

I am looking to buy the software and hardware which one is the best to buy and the model #
THANKS

[ptikkala]

is it possible to backup original softwares from different boxes, then try stuff with inpa etc... if doesnt work -> restore the software which was there before screwing around

[TerraPhantm]

is it possible to backup original softwares from different boxes, then try stuff with inpa etc... if doesnt work -> restore the software which was there before screwing around

Yes, you can make a backup of the entire car and save that somewhere before screwing around. NCS Expert can also be used to recode any module to the default settings for your VO. However, it is possible to permanently damage modules. In the case of the E46 convertibles, messing with the CVM is apparently rather risky; Snowcatxx87 fried that module when trying to code one. He's fairly knowledgeable about NCS Expert (definitely moreso than 95% of this board) so it wasn't just some noob mistake.

[ptikkala]

ok, we need tutorial how to backup you car :)

[mattmartindrift]

read each module. Then, save the fsw_psw.trc file in a separate folder and rename it to ID which module it was read from.

[adamwong]

Hi

I have a working copy of INPA V5.0.2, NCS Expert V3.0.8 with Ediabas 6.4.7. It was from a torr3nt and was 347MB in size.

I can find no instructions or documentation for coding with NCS expert in the INPA CD folders. I wanted to add auto lock/unlocking on driveoff/ignition off.

Could somone direct me to some instructions please?

Hi, I am newbie here and has been looking for the valuable information for a while. I have similar situation with you and am trying v3.0.8 NCS Expert to add auto lock/unlocking on driveoff/ignition off. However, I couldn't find E90 (2005 Sep preshipment & don't have it on my setup option) in chassis and is there any tips for it?

Many Thanks!

[TerraPhantm]

Hi, I am newbie here and has been looking for the valuable information for a while. I have similar situation with you and am trying v3.0.8 NCS Expert to add auto lock/unlocking on driveoff/ignition off. However, I couldn't find E90 (2005 Sep preshipment & don't have it on my setup option) in chassis and is there any tips for it?

Many Thanks!
Pick E89

[adamwong]

Pick E89

Superb!!! btw, any hints to help me for the autolock setting? :help

[TerraPhantm]

I know how to make it autolock after hitting 10mph, but I'm not sure about unlock upon ignition off. (I don't know if that's even possible.) I was under the impression that you can set the autolock on the newer cars right through the car's menus though... maybe that's only for the iDrive models.

For the autolock, set

VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KMH to aktiv

[adamwong]

I know how to make it autolock after hitting 10mph, but I'm not sure about unlock upon ignition off. (I don't know if that's even possible.) I was under the impression that you can set the autolock on the newer cars right through the car's menus though... maybe that's only for the iDrive models.

For the autolock, set

VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KMH to aktiv


Thanks a lot! ;) Because my E90 is manufactured under first batch (before sep 2005) and therefore I don't have such option thru the instrument.


Thanks a lot! ;) Because my E90 is manufactured under first batch (before sep 2005) and therefore I don't have such option thru the instrument.

FYI, I tested E89 and some others, it doesn't let me thru to change the key memory setting but INPA is working fine. :help Any NCS for my E90 :help

[ciclo]

Hi David,

May i please have some instructions for NCS Expert


thank you

[MisterM]

David-

Many thanks for your time. I will be trying out your software as soon as my cable arrives.

Has anyone had luck resetting the SMG adaptations using this setup as described?

Mike

[heartpumper]

Anybody know where to look to change my headunit from Logic 7 to HiFi so I can have balanced outputs to run to my JBL MS8?

Thanks

[smoke4ndmears]

I haven't tried to reset my SMG adaptations through INPA, but i've looked right at the option.

[s5luf]

Hi David,

May i please have some instructions for NCS Expert - please send to cslough@tiscali.co.uk

Thanks,

Craig

[David Mc]

Craig, you will find the guides for NCS in the NCS folder on the 4shared website here http://www.4shared.com/dir/3U37f2mH/NCS.html download password is INPA .

[s5luf]

Thank you David that is brilliant.

I am have manage to get the GT1 software to diagnose with VAG KKL - USB modified cable.

However i am not able to code, i get the message to turn ignition on (which is)

I am completlely new to this and have just been reading all the excellent info on here.

Other than NCS is there easier software to use the will work with 2003 E46 M3?

If you could point in the right direction that would be brilliant.

Thanks,

Craig

[David Mc]

You should be able to program your car with DIS v44, the problem is that your modded VAGCOM interface needs to be able to detect a true ignition signal - search VAGCOM in this forum for details.

[jacobniell]

You should be able to program your car with DIS v44, the problem is that your modded VAGCOM interface needs to be able to detect a true ignition signal - search VAGCOM in this forum for details.

Hi David

It´s seems like you know a lot regarding the INPA and that NCS, can you tell me if the INPA you linked to here will work with an E90 from 2007? Is there a new version of INPA and NCS that is tested and will work better, you mentioned something about a new software that was missing some data to work. Has this been solved or?

Thanks for your help:)

/Jacob

[David Mc]

Jacob, you need to install INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v6.4.3, then update it with INPA v5.02/EDIABAS v6.4.7 and all should work fine with your car.

[s5luf]

Thanks David, have found need to add the resistor to VAG COM KKL

With Progman does this also require the resistor?

INPA currently runs without the resistor, after the mod has been done will INPA still work?

Thanks mate

Craig

[David Mc]

Yes it should run without a problem.

[dreamofcar]

Hi David,

May i please have some instructions for NCS Expert - please send to dreamofcar@naver.com

Thanks,

[tm96]

David, seems like the link you posted is not working anymore. Can I please get a copy of the manual you have for these software? sundevile65@gmail.com
Thanks

[itb76]

Link works for me. Thanks for posting David, this will be very helpful.

[iany]

Some advice required..... :)

I've got a 530d msport 2004 e60, i havent dared to code yet, i have the cables and software and have configured it as far as u can without conencting to the car...

What i want to do is -

enable CD changer
enable MP3 playback from in dash CD

What do i need to do to achieve these 2 things?

also, when selecting the control unit to connect to how do i know which one does what?

And.. Do i need to attach a battery charger when coding or not??

Any help/advice appreciated!!

Ian.

[paulb34]

Could you send me some info on ncs-expert please mate.
During a wet afternoon I actually translated some of the NCS Help file into English if that is of any use. I also have handbooks somewhere for GT1, SSS & OPS etc and a guide to INPA in English.

[zero poster]

I am at my wit's end.

I have spent the last four hours looking at the 4shared website, trying to find ncs expert. I even paid for a flippin' membership so I could just download the entire folder. Nothing, at least not that I could see. Info on how to use NCS is there, but not how to install or even get the files needed.

Installing it was not an option when I installed INPA (which works but won't code) from 4shared.

I have found a rapidshare file with NCSEXPERT.rar here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8283494&postcount=1

But I started by using David Mc and Randomy's work, so I'd rather stick with what they've used.

David or Randomy, if you're still reading these threads, where do I find the NCS program and how to install it?

[Joylove]

NCS Expert comes with INPA. I wrote a guide about it somewhere on here.

[zero poster]

NCS Expert comes with INPA. I wrote a guide about it somewhere on here.
I did searches of the Diagnostic forum, for posts by you with the keyword "NCS" and again with "INPA", but it didn't turn up any sort of guide.

If you can point me towards a link, perhaps it was in another forum?

Doing my best not to be one of those spoon-fed noobs, but my searches have been fruitless, and as David Mc stated, the learning curve on this is steeper than Everest. Thanks for the help, and sorry to be a bother; I do try to pay it forward.

[David Mc]

NCS is part of the INPA program suite. If you download INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v6.4.3, when you install it, you just choose to install NCS as well as INPA and EDIABAS. You can download the software from this folder http://www.4shared.com/folder/3U37f2mH/NCS.html , using the password INPA and will also find some guides to using NCS in the folder.

[Joylove]

A DIY is here.
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f99/bmw-and-inpa-success-e39-e46-onwards-t74608/

[MrEmo]

For coding a e38, what version do you recommend?
I'm currently downloading EDIABAS/INPA 6.4.3
But I have INPA 5.0.2 and EDIABAS 6.4.7 Install on my pc. I got this one working, but it doesn't have NCSexpert. The other Install I have which comes in a .iso file have NCSexpert. Would it be ok to install just NCSexpert from this install? And the rest from the 5.0.2/6.4.7?

[IcemanBHE]

INPA 5.02 /Ediabas 6.4.5 is an UPGRADE that should be done to an installed version of INPA 3.01/Ediabas 6.4.3

However....INPA 5.02/Ediabas 6.4.5 offers ZERO improvement for E39 and less cars.

It actually looses some functionality.

[MrEmo]

So what are you suggesting?
Just got another install with inpa 4.4.7, ncs 3.0.1 and ediabas 6.4.3. I've got alot of versions on my pc now, and I'm wondering what I should go for.

I managed to get the Inpa 5.0.2 to work and I got some values from my car. But I wanted NCSexpert and I broke something I guess. So working on a clean install again.

[IcemanBHE]

For you...stick with the 6.4.3 install.

[bmwtech111]

Guys, I need some help if someone could. I already have INPA and the rest of the stuff, but they are old versions and I don't have programming files (i only have the ones in Progman for up to E60 but no individual files in WINKFP).I just bought a used T61 with the software already loaded. It also has Gt1 and Progman VM. What is the best way to update everything(INPA, NCS, Ediabas , WINKFP) and if I download the files from another file share site would they just migrate where they need to go or is there a special trick to load them onto their respective software...

[zebers]

I just want to know where to get my hands on NCS software and how to run it.....

[flybe88]

hello,can send me ncs and winkfp manuals.
norfarhanabdulrashid@gmail.com

[Jesus Freak]

I need the manuals to INPA and NCS expert... And DIS if you have them.

Email: jfreak 2006 @ hotmail. com

[gmprof]

Thanks a lot David, for your time and help dedicated to this forum.
Which software you recommend for 08 E66?

[David Mc]

Gmprof, I don't work on later cars as a rule, but the latest version of DIS I have seen available in the wild is v57, which can handle diagnostics but you will need PROGMAN v32.0 at least for coding and programming. Your car uses DCAN (which I do not use) and you may need to update some daten files in order to access all modules.

Guys looking for manuals/handbooks try the NCS and Easy GT folders on the 4shared site - access is as per this post http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14972175&postcount=607

[hilo]

hello, David-san,

Thank you a lot of information. My question is...

I want to install INPA v3.01/EDIABAS v6.4.3 and I did download from your site;

INPA-6.4.3-full.part1.rar
INPA-6.4.3-full.part2.rar
INPA-6.4.3-full.part3.rar

But when I extracted part2 to \C error occured.

What is wrong and what should I do?

Regards

[David Mc]

Just extract part 1, the file is self-extracting and will automatically extract parts 2 & 3 into the one file.

[hilo]

David-san,

Only ediabas-6.4.3-full.nrg was made in c:\INPA-6.4.3-full.part1(folder).
It seemed part2&3 were not extracted.

Is it OK?

[David Mc]

If you check the file size, I think you will find that it is the same as the sum of all three parts.

[hilo]

David-san

Thank you.
I can install them.

[David Mc]

Burn them to a disk using Nero and install them from there or they may not install fully - you will get a missing file error.

[hilo]

David-san

Done. Thank you.

I'll run programs on Mac using VMware, so I want to change port COM1 to COM6.
How and where to change?

[ZCP M3]

IFL on this! Will it work on my 1M?

[bmwnua313]

Is it possible to coding with progman like with ncs expert? For Example: Airbag SG?
In NCS Expert i would load it an then do changes in with the text editor. How is it in Progman?

Thank you in advance

[vickumar]

Would like to get my hands on these manuals as well! bitedoctor@gmail.com
thanks man!


Is it possible to coding with progman like with ncs expert? For Example: Airbag SG?
In NCS Expert i would load it an then do changes in with the text editor. How is it in Progman?

Thank you in advance

its a visual interface just makes it easier. as far as i am aware, ncs expert+winkfp can do everything and more than progman. no need for a text editor.

[ahmed391967]

Hi David, i need some manuals for NCS if you have, please, my email is
ahmad_bmjw@yahoo.com and Thanks,

[Gumi]

Hy Could you email me handbooks and sotware for GT1,SSS,OPS and NCS?
I would like to have link for INPA software and Inpa and ediabas manual?
Please help me

[BimmerLoco]

Hi to All Dear Friends, its my first time here in a very long time

Please Gentlemen
my datens got corrupted and they needed update anyway

My Ride is a 2011 328xi Xdrive with a 6 speed manual Transmission and Bi-xenons.

Is it possible to get a link to download E-90 Datens V-57? (E89)

i have to Clean-up a Mess i did to my MSV80, FRMR3, DXC_890 (DXC_90?)

i am Happy to see Mr. David Mc
many years ago you helped me setting up Carsoft for my E-46
eternally grateful for all the help my friend.

Fernando.