View Full Version : ABS Module Repair-Actual Repair!!!
cal45fan
11-20-2008, 12:02 AM
I have found an actual repair for the BMW ABS Module!!! This same module is used on 80% of BMW vehicles.
If your ABS light, Brake Light and Traction Control lights are on simultaneously, then it is a good bet that the ABS module is bad! Another way of making sure the module is bad is when you start it up in the morning no lights are on then after the engine warms up, the lights (see list above), come on.
Check all your speed sensors (do a search) to make sure the module is the culprit. Also, another indication the module is bad is when your speedometer does not work in conjunction with the lights coming on.
Removing the module is easy: http://www.magnum1.com/BMW-740/740_Pages/Maintenance-Pages/DSC-ABS-Module-Repair-740.html#Top
So, to prove my repair...Send me your module and I will repair them for FREE!!!
I will only repair the first 3 modules that is sent to me.
Look, your module is already bad and it is only worth as paperweight. You will spend upwards of $200 to have it repaired by companies that work on them. I will do exactlywhat they do to repair these modules. If I have repaired it, it has only cost you shipping from and back to your home. What have you got to lose?
PM me.
BMDubz
11-20-2008, 12:04 AM
Just out of curiosity, why are you doing this for free? I have one that needs to be repaired btw. Cheers.
cal45fan
11-20-2008, 12:27 AM
Just out of curiosity, why are you doing this for free? I have one that needs to be repaired btw. Cheers.
I just want to prove a point because my buddy just bought a 1999 540i and he had this problem! I found the fix. His module is now working. I want to do it to at least 3 more units to prove the success of this repair.
bimmerfiver
11-20-2008, 12:36 AM
Interesting and tempting as I'd rather not pay $300.00 to have mine rebuilt.
I had the DSC Triangle light up in the middle, along with the Brake and ABS lights in yellow. Speedo and cruise control still worked. I replaced the front sensors. Didn't work. After a few weeks the ABS and Brake lights went out, but the DSC Triangle is still light up.
Just the triangle is on in the middle. BMW dealer diagnosed as a bad module. I've been driving around with just the DSC triangle light on...traction control doesn't work and winter is just about here. :shifty
PM Sent!
LBMotoring
11-20-2008, 12:43 AM
Sent PM!
Dibs
Ive been wanting to do mine, but for 300 bucks Id rather buy other items, but hell for shipping why not!?
I dont really mind about abs or TC, I dont need them anyways, but its just annoying my christmasstree cluster, thanks!
To really prove your point a DIY with copious pictures would be great. I have nothing to gain from this as I've already paid to have mine fixed, but I'm just sayin....
cal45fan
11-20-2008, 06:39 AM
I will take pictures of what I do.
LBMotoring
11-20-2008, 11:52 AM
I will take pictures of what I do.
Did you get my PM?
If not could I have your email, Im ready to do this, I'd appreciate it much! :help
Bimmerfiver, I had the classic ABS module symptoms: I had the DSC Triangle light up in the middle, along with the Brake and ABS lights in yellow. This would not occur when I first started the car but rather after the car had warmed up. I timed the appearance of the lights a few times, and typically they would illuminate ten minutes or so into my morning commute, though they would come on sooner if I applied a moderate to heavy force on the brake pedal. If initiated during braking, the symptoms would be accompanied by a vibration felt through the pedal. When all three lights would appear, my speedometer would drop down to zero, my cruise control would cease to function, my MPG mode on the OBC would fail to function, and the speed-sensitive volume on the stereo would quit working, thereby instantly lowering the volume of the music in the cabin. Suspecting it was the infamous ABS module, I attempted to test my speed sensors per this thread (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=732766) using a multimeter, but came up short. Next, I had my car diagnosed by a knowledgeable BMW Master technician, who pulled the codes for three (3) failed speed sensors and informed me that it was much more likely that a single module with a high rate of failure malfunctioned than for three separate speed sensors to malfunction all at the same time. With this news, I sent my module to Module Masters, who confirmed and remedied the failure. Upon reinstallation of my rebuilt module, DSC now functions properly and none of the symptoms have returned.
jnyost
11-20-2008, 03:47 PM
You the man Cal!
Now according to MM only about 25% of modules are repairable this way. Just an FYI if he can't fix yours, don't get mad at him.
Jared
cal45fan
11-20-2008, 05:35 PM
You the man Cal!
Now according to MM only about 25% of modules are repairable this way. Just an FYI if he can't fix yours, don't get mad at him.
Jared
Hey, thanks Jared! I hope people realize that this type of repair is only applicable to a percentage of all bad modules.
jnyost
11-20-2008, 05:42 PM
Hey, thanks Jared! I hope people realize that this type of repair is only applicable to a percentage of all bad modules.
I guess that's what I was saying too. It sure doesn't hurt to try!
Jared
Fiziks
11-20-2008, 06:39 PM
Please take pictures and document what you do to repair it. I'm not willing to ship out my broken module but I'm pretty good with a wrench.
LBMotoring
11-20-2008, 09:08 PM
Also, is there anyother way of reseting your CEL light after I re install the Module?
Vipsa
11-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Are you going to re-solder the corroded connections, or is it a different fix?
EnerMax
11-20-2008, 10:26 PM
I have the same thing that happens to me in the morning. after 1 miniute of driving the tree comes on and the abs comes on. I had it scanned and it was the front drivers side abs sensor, but is that for sure? Or is it just trial n error?
cal45fan
11-20-2008, 10:27 PM
Are you going to re-solder the corroded connections, or is it a different fix?
It is that, continuity test, diode test and resistance check on components relevant to the fault lights. I also have the capability of testing the module by simulating its working environment.
I have the same thing that happens to me in the morning. after 1 miniute of driving the tree comes on and the abs comes on. I had it scanned and it was the front drivers side abs sensor, but is that for sure? Or is it just trial n error?
Test all your sensors and if they pass, then it is the modulae that's at fault. Do a search for speed sensor test...
cal45fan
11-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Bimmerfiver, I had the classic ABS module symptoms: I had the DSC Triangle light up in the middle, along with the Brake and ABS lights in yellow. This would not occur when I first started the car but rather after the car had warmed up. I timed the appearance of the lights a few times, and typically they would illuminate ten minutes or so into my morning commute, though they would come on sooner if I applied a moderate to heavy force on the brake pedal. If initiated during braking, the symptoms would be accompanied by a vibration felt through the pedal. When all three lights would appear, my speedometer would drop down to zero, my cruise control would cease to function, my MPG mode on the OBC would fail to function, and the speed-sensitive volume on the stereo would quit working, thereby instantly lowering the volume of the music in the cabin. Suspecting it was the infamous ABS module, I attempted to test my speed sensors per this thread (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=732766) using a multimeter, but came up short. Next, I had my car diagnosed by a knowledgeable BMW Master technician, who pulled the codes for three (3) failed speed sensors and informed me that it was much more likely that a single module with a high rate of failure malfunctioned than for three separate speed sensors to malfunction all at the same time. With this news, I sent my module to Module Masters, who confirmed and remedied the failure. Upon reinstallation of my rebuilt module, DSC now functions properly and none of the symptoms have returned.
PJB, check your PM...
dougperk
12-11-2008, 11:46 AM
I've read through the posts about the ABS failure. However mine symptons vary ever so slightly. Maybe it is due to the model year.
My 1997 528i just began having the ABS failure within the past 2 weeks, and seems to coincide with the onslaught of sub-freezing temps.
The DSC trinagle appears along with the ABS light. However, my BRAKE light does not come on, which is different than most of the other posts I have read. Also, my speedo, oddometer, and otehr instruments continue to work.
Do these aspects tend to indicate the issue to lean more toward a wheel sensor, or the ABS module itself?
Thanks
Doug
sorourkhaled
12-16-2008, 05:07 AM
Hi there,
I have replaced the front left and the rear left sensors, ASC light is allways ON,
Using carsoft 6.5 test it shows the following error codes :
23 Equipment ERROR (Automatic/Manual)
33 Left front (E38/E39) or Right (E46) wheel speed sensor cable
30 Left rear wheel speed sensor cable
Since I have replaced the two sensors, I think Equipment ERROR means ABS module,
Do you think I am able to repair this myself ? do I need any components or only hand work ?
I am good in soldering and fine repairs!!
Thanks
nodoubts2k
12-18-2008, 02:50 PM
I tried removing my module, but It's not coming out as it's supposed to, it looks really rusted. How is it supposed to come out? I think it is just supposed to slide out but I'm not sure.
Fiziks
12-18-2008, 03:20 PM
I tried removing my module, but It's not coming out as it's supposed to, it looks really rusted. How is it supposed to come out? I think it is just supposed to slide out but I'm not sure.
NY winters are harsh.... that thing is toast. I don't think anyone is gonna be able to repair that.
cpatstone
12-18-2008, 03:31 PM
It is that, continuity test, diode test and resistance check on components relevant to the fault lights. I also have the capability of testing the module by simulating its working environment.
Just so you know, I have one of the 75% majority of ABS modules that Modulemaster Gavin couldn't repair. He did repair a power circuit, resoldered the faulty connections, and restored some of the functionality, but apparently there's a big custom chip that does the actual DSC processing, and mine's toast. No way to replace the chip, as it's very proprietary and not sold as a component.
I admire the industriousness, but you already have at least two good players out there in the market. Maybe a better business opportunity is repairing the speedo clusters? Radio too for that matter?
TheSparo
12-18-2008, 05:29 PM
exact same thing JUST happened to me, started my car up, then ABS and traction lights came on and remain on all the time even when i start the car..
I've read through the posts about the ABS failure. However mine symptons vary ever so slightly. Maybe it is due to the model year.
My 1997 528i just began having the ABS failure within the past 2 weeks, and seems to coincide with the onslaught of sub-freezing temps.
The DSC trinagle appears along with the ABS light. However, my BRAKE light does not come on, which is different than most of the other posts I have read. Also, my speedo, oddometer, and otehr instruments continue to work.
Do these aspects tend to indicate the issue to lean more toward a wheel sensor, or the ABS module itself?
Thanks
Doug
jnyost
12-18-2008, 09:33 PM
I tried removing my module, but It's not coming out as it's supposed to, it looks really rusted. How is it supposed to come out? I think it is just supposed to slide out but I'm not sure.
Holy crap dude!!! Looks like you need new hydraulics too.
For those who can't get theirs fixed, is there any interest in a group buy?
bmr4me
12-18-2008, 11:02 PM
My brake and ABS Light came on, but brakes still work fine. When the lights go off, at slow speeds, I get a pulse in the pedal when braking. Would this be a sign of a failing ABS Module or would it be something else?
bump bump bump
Rooster Tail
01-08-2009, 11:07 AM
I will take pictures of what I do.
That would certainly be appreciated. Just about to peel the cover off of mine.
HpIzKing
01-18-2009, 09:32 PM
If Modulemasters says it is toast (code 23), does that mean I have to buy the rebuild kit at the dealer for $750 or a rebuilt one elsewhere?...any other sources out there for these parts that are reliable other than Modulemasters? They are out of these right now and said so many people want these that they don't bother with a waiting list. Thanks guys.
jnyost
01-18-2009, 10:30 PM
If Modulemasters says it is toast (code 23), does that mean I have to buy the rebuild kit at the dealer for $750 or a rebuilt one elsewhere?...any other sources out there for these parts that are reliable other than Modulemasters? They are out of these right now and said so many people want these that they don't bother with a waiting list. Thanks guys.
Yes. I sell them.
1NAWTY5
01-18-2009, 11:21 PM
My brake and ABS Light came on, but brakes still work fine. When the lights go off, at slow speeds, I get a pulse in the pedal when braking. Would this be a sign of a failing ABS Module or would it be something else?
bump bump bump
Same here
Surfbimmer
01-19-2009, 01:20 AM
This just happened on my 525 Touring, are you still doing the work on the ABS units? Were you able to fix them?
millertimebmw03
02-12-2009, 11:44 AM
Thanks to the op for fixing a few freebies. If you have a problem and yours cannot be fixed try my ABS DIY video
youtube.com/millertimebmw
gjVah
02-12-2009, 01:30 PM
I know I'm late.. but I would rather give YOU the $200 rather than a big company. If you're thinking of continuing the repairs, please let us know. I'm sure many people would rather support our friends here than rich companies..
alsaxto
12-28-2009, 02:05 AM
I just saw this post, as I have just searched for a solution for my abs module that needs repair/replacement. Are you still willing to do repairs? If so, how much would you charge me? If you dont want to mess with it I would appreciate any pointers on how the repair needs to be done, or where to go.
Thanks
KEEPER4U
06-16-2011, 03:07 PM
Hello I would send you the part I trust you mine is from my 2000 528i needs to be fixed where do i send it
keeper4u@hotmail.com
m5hoot
06-16-2011, 08:25 PM
Ask for the names of the owners of the three first modules that he fixed first. If they confirmed they sent 'em to him and they came back fixed-then I'll believe it. I rather doubt this happened, but I'll be more than pleased to say I was wrong, but surprised we never saw at least three forum members say "hey thanks man, you really did fix mine-for free or otherwise". Step forward you all that got your modules fixed.
Dark Knight 777
03-20-2012, 12:00 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a 98 740il with an abs speed sensor problem that's annoying the crap out of me. I replaced my right rear speed sensor but it still didn't work. I havent done the ones in the front yet but i dont know where it is located. Can anyone help me with that? I've also been reading about bas abs modules, I'm definitely hoping its not that because i went to module masters website but it said that its not repairable(just my luck) any help would be greatful...
bestPal
04-18-2012, 01:00 PM
Hi there, could anyone post a DIY on what to look for trying to repair an ABS control module? Seems a bit high to send it to someone to have one or two wires re-soldered for a few hundred bucks! I understand that they charge for KNOWING what to re-solder not the process itself, but hey, that's why we have this forum - to share knowledge, so if you have a DIY, please don't hog it. Post!
KevinMullins
04-18-2012, 01:11 PM
Hi there, could anyone post a DIY on what to look for trying to repair an ABS control module? Seems a bit high to send it to someone to have one or two wires re-soldered for a few hundred bucks! I understand that they charge for KNOWING what to re-solder not the process itself, but hey, that's why we have this forum - to share knowledge, so if you have a DIY, please don't hog it. Post!
There's actually a few sites around that show what typically gets repaired inside them....but I can attest it is not as simple as re-soldering a wire or two. It is very easy to fubar your module beyond repair while trying to do so.
And most repair places won't accept them once they have been opened. So instead of getting a module repaired, many will end up having to buy a brand new module for about three times the cost (module + coding) of a repaired one. (module + coding)
bestPal
04-18-2012, 01:24 PM
KevinMullins, a link or two for some good write-ups you're talking about, please?
KevinMullins
04-18-2012, 02:36 PM
Never said there were any "good" ones.... ;)
And quite frankly some of the more extensive ones have a lot of misleading information on how to go about repairing them. Some people get "lucky", some people completely trash theirs.
Here's a pic showing some of the typical culprits. (Bosch 5.7 version)
Generally it's the thicker strands along the top edge break loose.
http://bmwdriver.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bosch_abs_57_inside.jpg
edwin28
04-22-2012, 05:57 PM
hey are you still working on the abs modules i would give mine a shot if you still repairing it... mine i guess has the same symptons as the other, when car warms up the abs light and traction control light comes on and then the speedo goes out ect, ect...
cidade
09-19-2012, 06:07 AM
Hi,
I have the same problem in my 520i from 2000 :
when you start it up in the morning no lights are on then after the engine warms up, the lights come on.
How can I solve it ?
Can I send it to you ?
Thanks for your help.
cidade
croat
09-19-2012, 08:41 AM
FYI.. BBA-Reman has a sale on repairs now. Under $100 to fix your module, and that includes shipping both ways. Look them up on Ebay
SteveS1013
01-04-2013, 04:57 PM
Carl,
I would like to send you my 2003 BMW 325i ABS module for you to repair.
Where is the module located? Inside the engine or behind the wheel. Please provide your address so I can send the unit once I get it out.
Thanks
Steve Stacel
SteveStacel@gmail.com
BirdmanFerrari
02-23-2013, 05:37 PM
I just want to report a positive experience with having my ABS unit rebuilt. I got the classic signs of the three lights on when the car warmed up, but they went off when the car was cold. Before I realized it was the ABS unit, I replaced all the wheel sensors...no joy. I sent the ABS unit to BBA Remanufacturing in Taunton, MA on a Wednesday. Since I'm in the same state, they had it Thursday. They repaired the unit the same day and sent it back out Thursday afternoon. It was on my doorstep Friday afternoon. Can't beat a 2 day turnaround. It's fixed and works great. The whole thing including shipping was $242.95. It's a Bosch 5.7 on a 2002 530i. They were also quite pleasant to deal with and answered all my e-mails quickly. I recommend them.
Birdman
P.S. I tried to post a link to BBA Remanufacturing but the forum won't allow me to post links, so google it.
Random77
02-23-2013, 05:56 PM
I just want to report a positive experience with having my ABS unit rebuilt. I got the classic signs of the three lights on when the car warmed up, but they went off when the car was cold. Before I realized it was the ABS unit, I replaced all the wheel sensors...no joy. I sent the ABS unit to BBA Remanufacturing in Taunton, MA on a Wednesday. Since I'm in the same state, they had it Thursday. They repaired the unit the same day and sent it back out Thursday afternoon. It was on my doorstep Friday afternoon. Can't beat a 2 day turnaround. It's fixed and works great. The whole thing including shipping was $242.95. It's a Bosch 5.7 on a 2002 530i. They were also quite pleasant to deal with and answered all my e-mails quickly. I recommend them.
Birdman
P.S. I tried to post a link to BBA Remanufacturing but the forum won't allow me to post links, so google it.
I used BBA reman last year when I got the ABS-DSC-Brake light trifecta. I live in CT, I sent it out Monday and got it back Thursday. So far the repair has held up for over a year.
I don't know how you paid $242.95 though. Their ebay store (http://stores.ebay.com/BBA-Remanufacturing-Inc/BMW-/_i.html?_fsub=3093500016&_sid=281020046&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322) has the service listed for $98.56 including shipping both ways. IIRC I paid about that last year as well.
m5hoot
02-25-2013, 08:29 PM
BBA has a TON of positive reports so you do not need to post any more. Do some reading as I'm sure almost everyone already knows about them...except maybe you. The search function is your friend. As far as sending a member without the proper test bench to really put your module through its paces when you have BBA at $100 seems like a shot in the dark and as they say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. There are many failure schemes. You may have lucked onto yours, but I still don't see the raves from those who sent their module in to Cal45fan. How many sent have you got actually working long term out of curiosity? Any pix of your test bench?
BirdmanFerrari
02-27-2013, 10:25 AM
I don't know how you paid $242.95 though. Their ebay store has the service listed for $98.56 including shipping both ways. IIRC I paid about that last year as well.
Interesting. So they discount heavily on eBay for advertising. I wish I had known. That seems kind of dishonest.
BBA has a TON of positive reports so you do not need to post any more. Do some reading as I'm sure almost everyone already knows about them...except maybe you. The search function is your friend.
I'm terribly sorry for wasting your precious time by taking time out of my day to post something I thought would be helpful to others. Won't happen again.
Random77
02-27-2013, 12:40 PM
Interesting. So they discount heavily on eBay for advertising. I wish I had known. That seems kind of dishonest.
I'm terribly sorry for wasting your precious time by taking time out of my day to post something I thought would be helpful to others. Won't happen again.
I'm not sure who m5hoot was replying to, but I don't think it was you. It seems more likely he was replying to the OP.
As far as the price, BBA doesn't list prices on their website but they do have a link to their ebay store from their main page. So, did you call them to get your quote?
mifesto
02-28-2013, 03:53 PM
so this morning my ABS light stayed on... during my work break, i went on and started the car. ABS light is off now. strange. ill have to test the speed sensors from the abs connection when i go home
just wanted to report back in for others having similar issue. yesterday the ABS light turned on; the night before we had a big downpour of rain. 48 hours has passed and ABS light never returned. for me i think its just a bad connection of the sensor/s allowing moisture in. ill have to visually check them. the module itself seems to be working ok.
m5james
04-29-2015, 02:46 AM
Thread revival while I'm waiting to see if the OP is still rebuilding for free. There are positive reviews from people using BBA, but what about these guys - http://www.ebay.com/itm/FITS-CADILLAC-CATERA-BOSCH-5-3-ABS-MODULE-REPAIR-SERVICE-/271544489815?fits=Make%3ABMW&hash=item3f39501757&vxp=mtr#ht_6024wt_1438 Same warranty, no $150 core (were sending OUR unit, why is there a core), etc.
KRUZNBY
04-29-2015, 08:41 PM
Thread revival while I'm waiting to see if the OP is still rebuilding for free. There are positive reviews from people using BBA, but what about these guys - http://www.ebay.com/itm/FITS-CADILLAC-CATERA-BOSCH-5-3-ABS-MODULE-REPAIR-SERVICE-/271544489815?fits=Make%3ABMW&hash=item3f39501757&vxp=mtr#ht_6024wt_1438 Same warranty, no $150 core (were sending OUR unit, why is there a core), etc.
I did not want to chance dealing with the ebay sellers. There were some bad reviews on some past sellers. BBA was about 2x as expensive though. I just got mine back from BBA. They were unable to repair it, so I bought a refurb one. After coding, it works like a charm.
m5james
04-30-2015, 01:20 AM
So you don't trust eBay sellers/rebuilders, yet you used one anyways. I assume you get a refund if it's not rebuildable and you didn't say what you paid for the refurb and coding.
freethrowdunk
04-30-2015, 03:42 AM
Though BBA may have eBay listings for their services on these units, I am fairly sure he is not equating the disreputable, average provider of this service found in abundance on eBay with them. BBA is pretty reputable in this regard. That said, yes, there are instances, such as in the above example, when even they are unable to repair a faulty unit. Bear both of these points in mind.
Also see my thread regarding my endeavors in getting this problem rectified (post #14 specifically):
Installed My Rebuilt ABS Module But Trifecta of Lights Still On (http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2042971-Installed-My-Rebuilt-ABS-Module-But-Trifecta-of-Lights-Still-On)
Cliffs: For peace of mind, purchase a new Bosch unit, have it coded at a dealership or trusted indy, and call it a day.
Or take a chance with the abovementioned providers of this service, i.e., BBA and on down to every "hole-in-the-wall," eBay-advertising company
that promises lifetime warranties and such on their work and you just might be fortunate to have saved some money through it all in the end.
m5hoot
04-30-2015, 05:03 PM
Though BBA may have eBay listings for their services on these units, I am fairly sure he is not equating the disreputable, average provider of this service found in abundance on eBay with them. BBA is pretty reputable in this regard. That said, yes, there are instances, such as in the above example, when even they are unable to repair a faulty unit. Bear both of these points in mind.
Also see my thread regarding my endeavors in getting this problem rectified (post #14 specifically):
Installed My Rebuilt ABS Module But Trifecta of Lights Still On (http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2042971-Installed-My-Rebuilt-ABS-Module-But-Trifecta-of-Lights-Still-On)
Cliffs: For peace of mind, purchase a new Bosch unit, have it coded at a dealership or trusted indy, and call it a day.
Or take a chance with the abovementioned providers of this service, i.e., BBA and on down to every "hole-in-the-wall," eBay-advertising company
that promises lifetime warranties and such on their work and you just might be fortunate to have saved some money through it all in the end.
Look, when I sent my module back and forth to ATE in Tennessee or wherever the hell they are I got back a supposedly perfect ABS module which would not work. I called BBA, was honest that ATE had hacked it up and would they see 8independently if my module tested good on their bench. It FAILED 2 of 3 tests! They (BBA) said it was definitely bad and had been "hacked" with so many redundant wires they were "sorry" but would not try to reverse engineer the mess they received from ATE. BBA mailed it back with absolutely no charge for shipping or testing. He described the test bench at BBE-it is a 3 part test. They actually use the BOSCH 5.7 to control a motor at their bench. They modulate the speed in one test. They also test for heat-related faults. I don't recall the third operational test BBA did, but they certainly had it all over ATE. Many ATE personnel lied to me and refunds are a night mare. I bought a new module, go it coded, and it was perfect and still is. Now which do you trust. ATE who said the module was fine, which tested bad on 2 of 3 BBA tests, and the final proof was the new module curing issue. ATE is a racket and anyone sending there deserves it for not reading the ton of posts about them! SIMPLE.
BBA is trustworthy and reasonable and does the right thing. THEY NEVER tried to sell me another module from their shelf. They even picked up next day shipping after making not a dime from me. I have gone after refunds A year old from ATE and got them only because I had developed A relationship with owner of ATE where he thought I would recommend his dump in Tenn. STAY AWAY FROM ATE OR ANY RECENT VARIATION OF THEIR NAME. They are changing it lately to avoid being linked to their crap reputation that is out there. They say they are the largest repair facility for Autozone, BMW, Advance Autoparts and etc., but how they get business is beyond me. They flat out SUCK.
m5james
04-30-2015, 06:58 PM
I'm not sure who ATE is, nor their various other names. Nevertheless, has anyone used the other rebuilder I listed above vs just going with BBA since they both offer the same warranty?
freethrowdunk
04-30-2015, 07:11 PM
Look, when I sent my module back and forth to ATE in Tennessee or wherever the hell they are I got back a supposedly perfect ABS module which would not work. I called BBA, was honest that ATE had hacked it up and would they see 8independently if my module tested good on their bench. It FAILED 2 of 3 tests! They (BBA) said it was definitely bad and had been "hacked" with so many redundant wires they were "sorry" but would not try to reverse engineer the mess they received from ATE. BBA mailed it back with absolutely no charge for shipping or testing. He described the test bench at BBE-it is a 3 part test. They actually use the BOSCH 5.7 to control a motor at their bench. They modulate the speed in one test. They also test for heat-related faults. I don't recall the third operational test BBA did, but they certainly had it all over ATE. Many ATE personnel lied to me and refunds are a night mare. I bought a new module, go it coded, and it was perfect and still is. Now which do you trust. ATE who said the module was fine, which tested bad on 2 of 3 BBA tests, and the final proof was the new module curing issue. ATE is a racket and anyone sending there deserves it for not reading the ton of posts about them! SIMPLE.
BBA is trustworthy and reasonable and does the right thing. THEY NEVER tried to sell me another module from their shelf. They even picked up next day shipping after making not a dime from me. I have gone after refunds A year old from ATE and got them only because I had developed A relationship with owner of ATE where he thought I would recommend his dump in Tenn. STAY AWAY FROM ATE OR ANY RECENT VARIATION OF THEIR NAME. They are changing it lately to avoid being linked to their crap reputation that is out there. They say they are the largest repair facility for Autozone, BMW, Advance Autoparts and etc., but how they get business is beyond me. They flat out SUCK.
There is your answer, M5james. I was fortunate to get mine repaired in two turns with them but others (perhaps most?) have not been.
Another rebuilder other than BBA? Try http://modulemaster.com/rebuilds/
Otherwise, again, buy new, OE and have it coded.
KRUZNBY
04-30-2015, 07:48 PM
So you don't trust eBay sellers/rebuilders, yet you used one anyways. I assume you get a refund if it's not rebuildable and you didn't say what you paid for the refurb and coding.
Actually I had no idea that BBA was selling on eBay. They credited my the cost of the repair and diagnosis to the purchase of a refurb at $299. Of course the downside is that I had to pay to get it coded, but at least all is working now.
m5james
05-01-2015, 02:59 AM
There is your answer, M5james. I was fortunate to get mine repaired in two turns with them but others (perhaps most?) have not been.
Another rebuilder other than BBA? Try http://modulemaster.com/rebuilds/
Otherwise, again, buy new, OE and have it coded.
I already know about Module Master...I posted ANOTHER eBay rebuilder, so I was asking if anyone used them instead of BBA or MM.
freethrowdunk
05-01-2015, 03:27 AM
I already know about Module Master...I posted ANOTHER eBay rebuilder, so I was asking if anyone used them instead of BBA or MM.
At this point would it not be wise, given the evidence presented, to heed the warnings and steer clear of the eBay vendors?
It's what a prudent person would do.
m5james
05-01-2015, 03:37 AM
People have expressed their satisfaction using BBA and MM (both of which offer their services on eBay), making not using "eBay vendors" seem like it's really not an option.
freethrowdunk
05-01-2015, 04:05 AM
People have expressed their satisfaction using BBA and MM (both of which offer their services on eBay), making not using "eBay vendors" seem like it's really not an option.
Yes.
See the first sentence of post #55 ITT.
To reiterate: Likely a bad decision to give business to "bestmodulerepair1" on eBay in this regard (to make up some generic sounding vendor name for illustrative purposes).
Likely not a bad decision to give business to BBA or MM--reputable service providers who may happen to also do business on eBay.
Emperor E28
05-29-2015, 12:20 PM
Module Masters sounds like the way to go here. I am still up in the air about what I want to do. Maybe go to a junk yard and pull one, then have it coded?
KRUZNBY
05-29-2015, 03:30 PM
Module Masters sounds like the way to go here. I am still up in the air about what I want to do. Maybe go to a junk yard and pull one, then have it coded?
I would only do that as a last resort if funds are tight and it is actually cheaper. Likely any used one is bound to fail sooner or later, plus you eat the cost of coding.
OnTheFence
05-29-2015, 04:53 PM
I've had good experience with BBA.
m5hoot
05-30-2015, 08:19 AM
What was final outcome of this thread? How many actually sent to Cal45fan and got back working? Anyone? And yes, my earlier reply was not meant for you Birdman. Intended for OP.
PJM361
11-17-2016, 01:36 PM
Anyone use Autoxpresstech.com? http://autoxpresstech.com/index-3.html
They have the repair for half price ($79) on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosch-ABS-5-7-Repair-AntiLock-Brake-Module-Repair-Service-Rebuild-0-265-950-002-/221657689739?hash=item339bd3ee8b:g:gVsAAOSwa39UsFh 6&vxp=mtr
raymondre
07-03-2017, 03:37 PM
Do you still repair the abs control unit? Have a e39 2000 540i M sport
Bmwe60demon
12-12-2020, 02:49 AM
Looking to repair on bmw 2007 550i
OnTheFence
12-12-2020, 07:24 AM
What are the current vendors repairing?
BBA still seems around, but no more Ebay store
http://www.bba-reman.com/us/index.aspx
shogun
12-12-2020, 07:52 AM
BBA-Reman : Better Business Bureau shows: current Alerts For This Business
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2440706-BBA-Reman-closed&highlight=BBA-reman
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2440350-Bba-reman&highlight=BBA-reman
OnTheFence
12-13-2020, 09:04 AM
BBA fixed my ABS about 10 years ago, so it's sad to see an indy vendor go up in flames like this.
balidawg
12-14-2020, 10:07 AM
BBA still seems around, but no more Ebay store
http://www.bba-reman.com/us/index.aspx
BBA-Reman were terrible the past few years, now finally closed.
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2440706-BBA-Reman-closed&p=30602267
joeappel
12-14-2020, 10:26 AM
That's too bad. They fixed my ABS module last year. They sent the wrong module back to me but were able to sort things out pretty quickly and sent the right one.
BMWManiac
01-14-2021, 06:22 PM
Bump....need mine repaired or I need to buy a 99 M3 vert/ auto module
likedatyalll
05-07-2024, 09:16 PM
Anyone doing this repair. Mine is acting up in my '98 E38.
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