Would any of you guys be interested in a private autox in Fairfax, VA?

[LaunchBackwards]

-UPDATE-
July 6, 2008 -1:40AM-

Due to time constraints for insurance approval, the August 2nd event will be postponed. Please do not send payment at this moment. For those who have already sent payment. I will send you guys a PM.

Alright guys, here are the details. The lot rental has been approved.

What: Private Autocross (Kinda)
Where: 9001 Arlington Blvd., Fairfax, VA 22031
When: POSTPONED
Cost: TBA

Here is the list of people who have shown interest in participating. They have priority over any additional people wanting to register until July 6, 2008.

REGISTRATION WILL BE CAPPED AT 40 PEOPLE!!!
1. LaunchBackwards - 2005 Black BMW 330i
2. ecer1 - 2006 Silver Gray M5
3. joenationwide - 1995 Hellrot BMW M3 (bf.c)
4. sKunkman - 1998 Silver BMW 328i (bf.c)
5. datax - 2004 White Porsche GT3 (6speed)
6. SEAN_996 - 2002 Blue Porsche Turbo (6speed)
7. M3-peat - 2003 Blue BMW M3 (m3forum)
8. paeshius - 2008 Monaco BMW 335i (e90post)
9. Elements018 - 1997 Alpine White BMW M3 (bf.c)
10. Pino - Brilliantrot E30 (bf.c)
11. jbrannon7 - 2000 Silver M roadster (bf.c)
12. ZUUD bye +3 - 1996 Green Z3 Roadster (bf.c)
13. joeygill - 1993 325i (bf.c)
14. 1996BMW328I - 1999 M Coupe (bf.c)
15. gimp +2 - 1996 BMW 318ti(bf.c)
16. The Man - 1998 BMW 323i(bf.c)
17. odortiz - 1995 White BMW M3 (bf.c)
18. omegaraceshop - 1992 Honda Civic (bf.c)
19. RRT (bf.c)
20. Mr.F1 Fan - 2008 Monaco 335i (e90post)
21. Nihilation - White SS of Ignorance (bf.c)
22. Scottz71 - 2007 Space Gray 335i e92 (e90post)
23. Sammyzuko - 1997 BMW M3 Red (bf.c)
24. bagher - 2002 Steel Gray BMW M3 (e46f)
25. 07-335xi - 2007 Black Saph. 335xi e90 (e90post)
26. lrg8683 - 2000 Black Audi S4 (e46f)
27. MaxL - 2007 Montego blue 335xi (e90post)
28. JuniorDee - 2008 Jet Black M3 (e90post)
29. dreamdrivedrift - 2000 Jet Black BMW 328i (e46f)
30. novaboi323i 2000 jet black 323i (e46f)
31. Laxbmw17 - 1995 AW M3 (m3forum)
32. RealSenaii - 2008 M3 (e90post)
33. platnumdesi01 - 2004 330ci zhp (e46f)
34. pyo - 2000 TiAg 328i (e46f)
35. Bavarian19 - Space Gray 328 (E90post)
36. M3Punk - 1995 Boston Green M3 (bf.c)
37. ohnoes - 2002 Silver M3 (bf.c)
38. F M 3 - 2006 CB M3 (m3forum) - spec/cw
39. Carnag3 (m3forum)
40. TJ_GUNZ (m3forum)
41. TMNT - 2004 steel gray 330ci ZHP (E90post)
42. yeomgon (bf.c)

Due to the nature of the event, you MUST pay when you register. You can pay via cash, check, or paypal (CC is accepted as well via paypal, (you do not need an account).

I will PM everyone on this list with my info. CHECK YOUR PMS!!! Post in this thread, if you do not receive a PM.

Thanks,
-David




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I'm currently trying to work out a lot rental with the Kena Shrine, if you guys have heard of them. It's basically the twice the length of the Harry Grove lot, but only half as wide.

Nothing is final yet, but I'm trying to gauge how many participants there would be.

Here's a general mockup:


Any advice/tips on the course layout, etc. would be MUCH appreciated.

-David

[ZUUD BYE]

interest, depending on date. Could have maybe 3 interest.

[LaunchBackwards]

interest, depending on date. Could have maybe 3 interest.

I requested Sat/Sun. Date or price, I have no clue at this point.

[elements018]

that would be sweet, i would be down. Any idea how much this would cost? thanks

[joeygill]

This could be fun ... I'd be in (price/date dependent of course).

[mcoupemindy]

I would be interested in the date and cost.

My only concern would be safety. If you're not going through an organization, how do you plan to get insurance to CYA? Also, there doesn't seem to be enough runoff room throughout the course. Also, the finish is aimed right at the start ... what happens when stuff goes incredibly wrong and the car can't stop???

Just my $.02.

[John V]

I don't think that lot is a good candidate for autocrossing.

[gimp]

I could have you at least two depending on date/cost.

[SpeedTheory]

Yikes.

[The Man]

I might go depending on cost

[nick325xit 5spd]

Looks very unsafe.

[sKunkman]

I imagine myself running that course (how it's drawn out) and

Is it really that big? I don't think it would be a good idea though.

[LaunchBackwards]

It's about 300x120ft or so.

The lot has no poles or anything. Ignore that course layout, it was just an example. Although, the finish is about 150 feet before the start line. Also, the pre grid would wait in that enclave away from the line of the finish line, in case something went horribly wrong, accelerator instead of brakes and WOT all the way.

We might run this thing through an organization as well, most of it is up in the air at this point.

Thanks for the feedback so far guys. I will look into the insurance thing, along with waivers.

I'm capping the entrants to 20-30 guys at most. Price will probably be $20-$30 for 12-18 minutes of runs for each person plus an untimed run for the last hour.

So, far the guy is willing to put this idea through to the local committee, it would be another month before I can lock in any kind of date...if it clears.

I would like building a list of interested folks ahead of time.

-David

Bird's Eye View found by Superman07 on m3forum:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...cl=1&encType=1

I imagine myself running that course (how it's drawn out) and

Is it really that big? I don't think it would be a good idea though.

[LaunchBackwards]

It's probably going to be some time in June/July on a Thurs, Fri, Sat, or Sun.

Let's get a general interested list going on.

1. LaunchBackwards - 2005 Black BMW 330i
2. ecer1 - 2006 Silver Gray BMW M5
3. joenationwide - 1995 Hellrot BMW M3 (bf.c)
4. sKunkman - 1998 Silver BMW 328i (bf.c)
5. datax - 2004 White Porsche GT3 (6speed)
6. SEAN_996 - 2002 Blue Porsche Turbo (6speed)

[mcoupemindy]

You may want to consider all the official, sanctioned events in the area when planning a date ...

[LaunchBackwards]

I will definitely schedule around the official events.

You may want to consider all the official, sanctioned events in the area when planning a date ...

[genxguy]

I would also check with the police dept, both local and state. An autox I attended several years back in Springfield got 'visited' by police. Lot we were using was a high school lot, and the organizers (experienced and well-established group) had permission from the county and school. I can't remember if it was state police or FFX county police, but they told us any activity that could be construed as 'reckless driving' is not allowed no matter what permits we have. Some of us were even threatened with tickets.

[LaunchBackwards]

I was already planning on contacting the FFX Police and getting their permission. Thanks for the heads up though.

I would also check with the police dept, both local and state. An autox I attended several years back in Springfield got 'visited' by police. Lot we were using was a high school lot, and the organizers (experienced and well-established group) had permission from the county and school. I can't remember if it was state police or FFX county police, but they told us any activity that could be construed as 'reckless driving' is not allowed no matter what permits we have. Some of us were even threatened with tickets.

[mcoupemindy]

I would also check with the police dept, both local and state. An autox I attended several years back in Springfield got 'visited' by police. Lot we were using was a high school lot, and the organizers (experienced and well-established group) had permission from the county and school. I can't remember if it was state police or FFX county police, but they told us any activity that could be construed as 'reckless driving' is not allowed no matter what permits we have. Some of us were even threatened with tickets.

I'll ask my neighbor if I see him this weekend (Loudoun County Sheriff) and get his take on it.

[LaunchBackwards]

I'll ask my neighbor if I see him this weekend (Loudoun County Sheriff) and get his take on it.

Thanks Jon. I think technically they can't give you tickets or anything, but it will be good to get their endorsement anyway to keep good relations.

[joenationwide]

It's about 300x120ft or so.

Wow, thats small. I just looked at the Sykesville Lot which is also on the "smaller" side, and it is 600x300ft.

EDIT: The lot measures 150x800' on Google Earth. This might be OK. The course would have to be a "down and back" type of course, which is still fun.

An autox I attended several years back in Springfield got 'visited' by police. Lot we were using was a high school lot, and the organizers (experienced and well-established group) had permission from the county and school. I can't remember if it was state police or FFX county police, but they told us any activity that could be construed as 'reckless driving' is not allowed no matter what permits we have. Some of us were even threatened with tickets.

Wow, some cops are total cocks!

[genxguy]

They were going to issue tickets for our 'driving recklessly' and for wearing helmets while operating a car. Yeah, I know. :/

Might be different if this is a private lot.

[LaunchBackwards]

They were going to issue tickets for our 'driving recklessly' and for wearing helmets while operating a car. Yeah, I know. :/

Might be different if this is a private lot.

Scott, if you could roll around some time during the week, we can check out the lot and see if it's fit for autox.

1. LaunchBackwards - 2005 Black BMW 330i
2. ecer1 - 2006 Silver Gray BMW M5
3. joenationwide - 1995 Hellrot BMW M3 (bf.c)
4. sKunkman - 1998 Silver BMW 328i (bf.c)
5. datax - 2004 White Porsche GT3 (6speed)
6. SEAN_996 - 2002 Blue Porsche Turbo (6speed)
7. M3-peat - 2003 Blue BMW M3 (m3forum)
8. paeshius - 2008 Monaco BMW 335i (e90post)

[jbrannon7]

1. LaunchBackwards - 2005 Black BMW 330i
2. ecer1 - 2006 Silver Gray BMW M5
3. joenationwide - 1995 Hellrot BMW M3 (bf.c)
4. sKunkman - 1998 Silver BMW 328i (bf.c)
5. datax - 2004 White Porsche GT3 (6speed)
6. SEAN_996 - 2002 Blue Porsche Turbo (6speed)
7. M3-peat - 2003 Blue BMW M3 (m3forum)
8. paeshius - 2008 Monaco BMW 335i (e90post)
9. jbrannon7 - 2000 M Roadster

I am interested, Living in Fairfax County sucks. They are the most Politically Correct bunch of A-Holes outside California.

They give 10,000 acres to the Horsie Set but not 1 square foot for any hobby that uses an engine.

Joe

[odortiz]

i'd prolly be interested depending on the date. if it's a private lot and you have permission from the owner, the cops cant give traffic violations there.