Greetings,
This is Ryan from Eisenhaus. I just wanted to chime in here and let you guys know that this group buy has not been approved by Eisenmann NA and products that are purchased will not have a warranty in the US. Please contact us if you would like to set up an authorized group buy. I will be contacting Germany about this matter.
Cheers
This is a moot point as we are not buying the Eisenmann exhaust systems from Eisenhaus.
We are buying them directly from Europe.
Eisenhaus is not the worldwide distributor for Eisenmann!
As for the warranty-I doubt that Eisenmann will deny a warranty claim on one of their fine products purchased from a European distributor rather than a US distributor.
They have a great reputation and I'm sure they intend keeping it great.
Last edited by BMWE34M5; 11-20-2007 at 12:03 PM.
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
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http://eisenmann-sportauspuff.ov3.de...r_weltweit.htm
There are strict contracts in place and Eisenmann will take care of this matter. Whoever you are getting the Eisenmann system from is breaking the distribution rules. I have sent the group buy list to Eisenmann Germany. I would love to get the Bimmerforum guys some Eisenmann systems. Please contact us to set up an authorized group buy.
Best Regards,
Ryan
Last edited by RYANM330CI; 11-20-2007 at 12:10 PM.
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
Competition? Eisenmann VS Eisenmann?
You clam to be a distributor of Eisenmann but I don’t see your company listed on Eisenmann's website http://eisenmann-sportauspuff.ov3.de...r_weltweit.htm Please don't turn this into a $$ issue. Eisenmann UK would be equally upset with us if we shipped Eisenmann systems to the UK. I'm not trying to be a jerk.
We did not claim to be a distributor for Eisenmann.
We are a distributor that can import various brand names from European suppliers that carry Eisenmann and other brands, including OEM BMW parts - even though we are not "officially" a BMW dealer.
From your website it is obvious that you distribute other brands besides Eisenmann - so you are a distributor just like us.
Last edited by BMWE34M5; 11-20-2007 at 01:14 PM.
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
Eisenmann Germany is now looking into this situation. I will have an answer from them very soon. I have also contacted Eisenmann UK. I hope this works out for all parties. This is a great forum and I have been a lurker for years.
Cheers
you know you could have done this with PMs or emails directly to Abrahams(BMWE34M5)
this just seems more like protecting your own interests.I would love to get the Bimmerforum guys some Eisenmann systems. Please contact us to set up an authorized group buy.
Best Regards,
Ryan
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
This should have been dealt with privately.
Last edited by BL4CK-OUT; 11-21-2007 at 10:07 AM.
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Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
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Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
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Phone (727) 992-0288
Eisenhaus has rights to distributing Eisenmann exhausts in North America, and those rights are not easily earned. Any and all Eisenmann systems sold in North America are by law and contract required to be purchased through Eisenhaus/Eisenmann NA. That's not a point you can argue, that's fact as stated in Eisenhaus' contract with Eisenmann GMBH.
Eisenhaus, as you said, does not have rights to the whole world, so if you want to sell Eisenmann systems in say, Poland, go right ahead. Nobody will complain. But if you want to do a group buy that caters to US customers, you need to go through Eisenmann NA AKA Eisenhaus. You didn't do that, so of course one of their employees is getting a bit upset with you. You should close this thread, apologize to your customers for offering to sell them a product that is essentially being purchased and sold illegally, and contact Eisenhaus directly to work toward a resolution. Then you can set up a real group buy, approved by the manufacturer.
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You need to read your rights - they state that you are the US distributor for Eisenmann products - meaning that we (Abrahams Motorsport) cannot buy directly from Eisenmann in Germany.
Your rights do not say that we cannot purchase Eisenmann products from a source in Europe.
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
This is a private matter ... and as such, should be handled privately. At this time, only supporting vendors and individuals/vendors who have been given special permission will be allowed to run group buys on this forum. To become a supporting vendor ... please contact advertise@bimmerforums.com
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
And who are you?
Eisenhaus's attorney?
How can you dictate to me whom I am allowed to buy from and whom I am not allowed to buy from?
I did not sign an agreement with Eisenmann or Eisenhaus.
If a company in Europe wants to sell us their products, we will buy them.
Is that illegal?
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
I tried to handle this situation privately. We are not looking to run any group buys on this forum or becoming a supporting vendor. We have many vendors on this forum selling our products. I just wanted to inform members on here that there will be no warranty if you purchase Eisenmann systems from Abrahams(BMWE34M5) I will be in contact with Eisenmann UK and Eisenmann Germany to resolve this matter.
Cheers
Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
Buy with confidence, serving the BMW community for over 14 years.
Website: www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-Mail: sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal: order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
Phone (727) 992-0288
We deal with Eisenhaus directly and all the time for Eisenmann exhausts.
If need be, I will support Ryan's statements/comments in this thread, since he is not an official supporting vendor on here.
Ryan, for whatever reasons, if you want me to help you set up an authorized gb on here, just let me know.
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