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    Thumbs up HPF Stage 2 Methanol "New" Pictures and Results

    I took some pictures of our final production methanol pieces today. We assembled one of the brackets off the car for production pictures. This bracket installs underneath the bumper and wraps around the fog lights, our intercooler piping and clears the front bumper support. All of the methanol components come pre-mounted to the bracket from us so it can simply be installed and plugged in. Since the factory horns were in the way of our bracket, we created a mounting location for each horn and etched the picture of the horn directly on our polished bracket so they have a perfect location and the horn wires require no extension.

    We utilize an FJO modified methanol pump and an FJO methanol fogger. This methanol fogger is unique in that it creates an extremely dense fog by pressurizing the methanol against a wall. This almost instantly vaporizes the methanol providing an extremely cool "high octane" intake charge.

    Our methanol system is automatic. No flipping switches or uploading maps is required. When methanol is detected, our system automatically allows the turbo to provide more boost, increases timing to benefit from the higher effective octane, and drops fuel to the injectors to compensate for the methanol fuel creating a very safe A:F ratio.

    Everything is plug-n-play. The methanol system plugs directly into our EMS without any cutting or wiring, and the hard parts bolt to factory mounting points.

















    Here are some pictures of the production methanol tanks. We're just waiting for them to arrive. For testing and early stage 2 customers, we're using standard methanol tanks that can be temporarily mounted and replaced with our new ones when they arrive.





    Here's the port on the intake manifold where the methanol is fogged into the intake air stream. To make sure the methanol fogger is screwed into the correct port we've labelled each port directly into the casting. With no bends to the intake runners themselves and the location of the methanol port directly in the center of the airstream closest to the neck, equal distribution to each runner is achieved.







    Our methanol kit places the methanol pump and the methanol electronics right in front of the car underneath the front bumper. It also places the "methanol" tank in front of the fire-wall on the drivers side. Keeping methanol out of the cabin of the car was important to us for safety reasons, and the short lines from the tank to the pump and on to the fogger allow methanol to come on and off almost instantly. Here are some pictures of the location of the electronics and pump on a "non-polished" bracket.





    Here's a dyno graph of Tommy's M3 on stage 2. It shows all the various boost levels that are achieved with the 4 maps our stage 1&2 kits provide. This also shows how methanol can greatly benefit a high octane boosted motor when low octane fuels are used.

    Last edited by HPF Chris; 11-16-2007 at 06:48 PM.



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    Nice I only question the effectiveness of nozzle placement to Cyl # 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrineMachine View Post
    Nice I only question the effectiveness of nozzle placement to Cyl # 1
    Thanks and that's a great question. The methanol fogger we're using is very "unlike" an injector that has a very small spray angle. The fogger we're using (pictured below with our harness) bounces the methanol off itself and directly away in all 360 degrees. This creates a very dense fog that reaches each and every cylinder almost equally (as measured with our individual runner EGT testing).

    Quote Originally Posted by Nj85'325
    wow such nice work
    Thanks.

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    Wow that is hott. I love how everything is done sooo CLEANLY.

    Chris, last time I checked HPF has done only one SMG...were you guys ever able to record the SMG in action cause I really want to see how that thing pulls and shifts with the kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw buddy View Post
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    Nice, I love my W/A kit, the 1 gallon tank seems to last forever.

    What kind of mixture are you guys using? Straight Methanol or 50/50 water?

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    I will agree with some of the comments here. The attention to detail and quality you put into your components is impressive. Kudos to you!
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    I will agree with some of the comments here. The attention to detail and quality you put into your components is impressive. Kudos to you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw buddy View Post
    If the crime rate or divorce rate increases, HPF is to be blamed.
    Thanks. So far the wives have loved our customer's turbo'd M3's. As long as you can give her a ride in the car before she files for divorce you stand a much better chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stimpee
    I will agree with some of the comments here. The attention to detail and quality you put into your components is impressive. Kudos to you!
    Thanks stimpee..

    Quote Originally Posted by Excidium28
    Nice, I love my W/A kit, the 1 gallon tank seems to last forever.

    What kind of mixture are you guys using? Straight Methanol or 50/50 water?
    We're using 100% methanol. Yes, it does last a long time. Our methanol tank is also 1.25 gallons, so for most it will last a month or so. We use it for roughly 20% of the fuel when it comes on which allows us to run much more boost that would otherwise be possible on 91 octane pump gas.

    Quote Originally Posted by trthrrt489
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    Makes my stuff look like poo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obnoxious2
    Wow that is hott. I love how everything is done sooo CLEANLY.

    Chris, last time I checked HPF has done only one SMG...were you guys ever able to record the SMG in action cause I really want to see how that thing pulls and shifts with the kit.
    Thanks. We've done 4 SMG cars. Alvin, Tommy, Raj and Josh. Raj and Josh's M3's are still here (waiting for their AP exhausts to arrive), so I'll try to get some video footage of those before they leave. Here's a video of Alvin's car (his was the first to get the SMG version).... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRoN0Sng84

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw buddy View Post
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    What psi does the methanol come on?

    Wouldn't it be better for cooling to run at least 25% water?

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    Sorry about the delay in getting everyone their tanks. Here's the mould for the methanol tanks. Now that we've switched suppliers for the plastic injection we should be able to get the finished product very soon.

    Here's a picture of the mould.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HorsepowerFreak View Post
    Sorry about the delay in getting everyone their tanks. Here's the mould for the methanol tanks. Now that we've switched suppliers for the plastic injection we should be able to get the finished product very soon.

    Here's a picture of the mould.

    I missed the volume amount of the new tank, that looks rather large ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRT11 View Post
    I missed the volume amount of the new tank, that looks rather large ....
    It is 1.25 gallons, and fits perfectly in the space that's created around the intake manifold and below.

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    Freaking sick Chris.

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