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Thread: Sub Frame Bushing install with out the tool

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    Sub Frame Bushing install with out the tool

    I DID IT!

    I wont ever do it again tho, but if anyone wants to know how to do it here goes.

    First of all here is a list of the tools that i used.

    1.) basic hand tools
    2.) Air Hammer and assorted bits
    3.) PVC saw
    4.) hammer

    Take the inner fender out first, if you lower the part of the inner fender towards the rear of the car it will allow you to pull the whole fender out took me a long time to figure that out.

    what you do is cut the center out of the old bushing using the PVC saw. thne you take the air hammer and use an angle bit (looks like a "V") and start from under the bushing. your going to basically hammer the steel ring to bits all the way up the bushing it will look like this:




    Also you can see the bits that i used in the second picture.



    I really do no recomend you do this on your daily driver with out having the tool. the first bushing took me 2 days to get out because i didnt know what i was doing, the second took almost 2 hrs.



    i tell you that everyone is not kidding when they say this is the first mod that you need to do to your car!

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    I really wanted to do a suspension mod before I got IE installed. After I got IE installed, I'm content with the stock suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave330i View Post
    I really wanted to do a suspension mod before I got IE installed. After I got IE installed, I'm content with the stock suspension.
    Though there's always room for improvement, I'm also happy with my stock suspension. Along with IE bushing, I also have H&R sway bars. The car feels great for what I'm using it for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave330i View Post
    I really wanted to do a suspension mod before I got IE installed. After I got IE installed, I'm content with the stock suspension.
    EXACTLY!!!! Especially if you have front and rear strong struts. I thought the same exact thing after I put them in and was waiting on installing my TC Kline suspension. Now that I have it on, I love it and it kicks ass, but I probably would have been ok without it after putting these bushings in.

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    I was considering doing the install without the tool. I am now re-thinking that. It's the first suspension mod (other than Rogue RSMs) that I was going to do. I guess I'll have to figure out something else.
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    I did mine without the tool as well, it was no fun. And I had the entire subframe out, I can imagine how difficult it was doing it in the car. You are right about the difference it makes in regards to cornering, like night and day.

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    Not using the tool makes it tough...


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    Where can one purchase "The Tool"?
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    Gives new meaning to what a job is like with the "right" tools. I mean Randy and I did this is 1:45 with inspections of the subframe and differential and shooting the shit. Makes the drive there worthwhile.
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    so thats where those things go

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    is it worth paying someone 400 for the install
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    i didnt use the torch because i was affraid of catching something on fire. . .

    this way worked ok, and now i dont have to worry about having a hard time getting them out ever again. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000m View Post
    is it worth paying someone 400 for the install

    no. . .even without the tool i wouldnt pay someone 400 to use the tool to take them out. . .if your going to spend 400 you might as well buy the tool and then re-sell it when your done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2kredz3 View Post
    no. . .even without the tool i wouldnt pay someone 400 to use the tool to take them out. . .if your going to spend 400 you might as well buy the tool and then re-sell it when your done!
    i think the last time it was sold was only for $100, so you would save yourself $300

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    i was about to pay 180 for the tool. . .but i was talking about getting an new one

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    Took about 30mins with the tool, and BTW of anyone needs it in LA send me a PM as I know a shop that can do this for you!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by z3papa View Post
    Gives new meaning to what a job is like with the "right" tools. I mean Randy and I did this is 1:45 with inspections of the subframe and differential and shooting the shit. Makes the drive there worthwhile.
    And that includes forgetting to put the springs in when we raised the subframe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Forbes View Post
    And that includes forgetting to put the springs in when we raised the subframe
    I did that on one side of my car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmcfad01 View Post
    I did that on one side of my car!
    Ten minutes beforehand, I told Clark that we (meaning I) have to remember to put the springs in as we raise the subframe...

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    How do you get the new bushings in? If it's that much work to get them out...
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    The IE ones are two pieces and slide in from the top and bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Forbes View Post
    Ten minutes beforehand, I told Clark that we (meaning I) have to remember to put the springs in as we raise the subframe...
    i put the springs in last. . .like i had it all bolted back together and just had shocks sway bar and springs left to secure. . .didnt have any problem getting my sprins in at all. . .

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    So we're talking about the green things in the picture? Or the pivot point just to the left in the picture?

    Yes I realize this is an (OMG is he freaking retarded? Is he even allowed to drive) question.
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