M3 vs stage 3 srt4

[saint166]

Originally Posted by SergEG

Sure, I'll introduce you to my buddies who run 11's@118 with their SRT-4's and you can count the car lengths going from a 40-60 or 80 roll

Let get off the ET and look at traps.....a car that traps 100 and a car that traps 105 are COMPLETELY different from a roll...now take an SRT that traps 110+ and your on a completely different level of acceleration

A real stage 3 with a compotent driver is going to crush a 100 trap car PERIOD....you can add a flux capcitor and maybe even it out...maybe

From a stop will show the drivers weakness in launching a powerful FWD car....go from a roll to judge the power and youll quickly see the night and day difference between 110 and 100 trap

what does your buddies times have to do with what i just said . i said nothing about an 11 sec car or competing with one . this guy said he was running 12's and with no traction and a street race and not race tuned as he would be on the track i doubt he was running 12's that night . i simply did the math to show why the race was closer than even i thought it should be . an 11 sec car would and should eat my lunch . dont add things like a flux capcitor comment im not some idiot . lol oh i see it now u drive a 350 z that explains the lame comments lol

[SergEG]

Originally Posted by saint166

what does your buddies times have to do with what i just said . i said nothing about an 11 sec car or competing with one . this guy said he was running 12's and with no traction and a street race and not race tuned as he would be on the track i doubt he was running 12's that night . i simply did the math to show why the race was closer than even i thought it should be . an 11 sec car would and should eat my lunch . dont add things like a flux capcitor comment im not some idiot . lol oh i see it now u drive a 350 z that explains the lame comments lol

Whatever

Your still oblivious to the TRAP speed difference so I guess your not much of a drag racer

If you dont understand how a car capable of 110+trap walking a 100 trap car happens then you may as just give up

Its not rocket science --- 2.4L motor + small turbo + big boost = moves

An NA car would have a very hard time keeping up.....few NA cars trap 114-118 which is why the SRTs are respected for their numbers, their interior sucks and not much to look at but most SRT4 owners could care less....although some move on for EVOs if they can afford it

[pandp]

Originally Posted by saint166

what does your buddies times have to do with what i just said . i said nothing about an 11 sec car or competing with one . this guy said he was running 12's and with no traction and a street race and not race tuned as he would be on the track i doubt he was running 12's that night . i simply did the math to show why the race was closer than even i thought it should be . an 11 sec car would and should eat my lunch . dont add things like a flux capcitor comment im not some idiot . lol oh i see it now u drive a 350 z that explains the lame comments lol

trust me man, with any mods to any e36, (without F/I) there is no chance at all to keep up with any srt4 stage 3 especially on the move

the srt4s are quick, they just lack style and all that. after years of driving with 330 whp, i just got tired of the noise, but they will rock lots of cars

[mpower001]

I raced a Stg 4 in my E46 M and he left me like I was standing still!!! Now I raced my brother in his E36 M who has every bolt on except 3.91 diff and I pulled on him as hard as the Stg 4 did on me! I just can't see this happening man! Those SRT's can be fast, especially the Stg. 3 and 4!!!
Stay away from that free weed up in Canada!!

[ERICKBOTIC]

Originally Posted by JayB

I know all too well. Something very wrong here because I've seen it first hand...SRT4 is a bad little motha with mods.

just like he said my buddy has a SRT-4 with only bolt ons and ive seen him beat an e46 m3 so i for sure dont believe that u beat a stage 3 srt

[fusionchicken]

Originally Posted by saint166

what does your buddies times have to do with what i just said . i said nothing about an 11 sec car or competing with one . this guy said he was running 12's and with no traction and a street race and not race tuned as he would be on the track i doubt he was running 12's that night . i simply did the math to show why the race was closer than even i thought it should be . an 11 sec car would and should eat my lunch . dont add things like a flux capcitor comment im not some idiot . lol oh i see it now u drive a 350 z that explains the lame comments lol

he's talkin about trap speeds, which is the speed a vehicle has while passing the 1/4 mile mark at the end of the drag strip.

if your car is going 100mph at the end of the 1/4 mile, a car going at 110mph at the end of the 1/4 mile, from a rolling start race will DESTROY you.

ET is a bad tool for comparison when comparing cars with different propelling wheels, especially comparing rolling start races trap speed is the best point of reference for prediction of outcome.

i think some of these guys are coming down on you a bit hard...the guy could've seen that you were 3 cars back so let off the gas a bit, or maybe he took you by more than 3 cars but you thought it looked like 3 cars...who knows.

they have a point though, a stage 3 srt4 moves very well on the highway....FWD loses less power to the wheels since it sits right on the propelling wheels; they're lethal for rollin races

[bmw2stang]

Originally Posted by mpower001

I raced a Stg 4 in my E46 M and he left me like I was standing still!!! Now I raced my brother in his E36 M who has every bolt on except 3.91 diff and I pulled on him as hard as the Stg 4 did on me! I just can't see this happening man! Those SRT's can be fast, especially the Stg. 3 and 4!!!
Stay away from that free weed up in Canada!!

Damn on a lighter note they have free weed in Canada???Damn might just have to move there lol,bottom line is anything can happen on the streets you can beat a viper or die in a fiery crash racing a geo metro lets leave it at that.

[l3it3r]

Just to clear something up: there is no Stage 4 made by mopar. A third party turbo company makes one and it's good for about 500whp. Stage 3R from Mopar makes about 350-380whp. Add in some decent supporting mods and you're talking close to 390-400. My SRT with a stage one and some bolt ons and some fuel work makes 295whp. About $1000 in power adding mods.

[calisupra2nr]

^^ yeah man thats where I am at, about to go gt30r. BTW to whoever said me winning stock against my friends 99 dakar...he can drive he ran a 13.8 with an eisenmann or w/e exhaust and dinan intake. My car ran a 13.91@102 stock, with radials it went 13.4 so traction is definetly the deciding factor for these cars. We raced from a 40 roll so I had traction and pulled him fairly easy...

[epic]

you idiots need to stop bench racing.

Originally Posted by DINANized3

...bottom line is anything can happen on the streets you can beat a viper or die in a fiery crash racing a geo metro lets leave it at that.

[nickt93]

Regardless of whether it was a stage 3 or not, one simple fact remains - a car is only as fast as its driver.

[Armo95]

Originally Posted by saint166

p.s. if anyone is wondering how i know it was a stage 3 srt4 , my son knows the guy

The SRT probably just had an exhaust and lied to your kid.

[ERICKBOTIC]

Click here to see Video

dude the only way ull beat a Stage 3 SRT is if u shoot the driver

[calisupra2nr]

bench racing...whose bench racing here?

[bmw2stang]

That video gives me awhole respect for srt-4's they sure as hell can move it was runnin that crotch rocket.

[JayB]

I have everything you have including custom ecu, full race exhaust manifold back and rogue underdrives but I'm a vert which ads some weight even though I'm running no spare and very light wheels and a Stage III (just found out) put such an ugly on me last week that I'm still in denial. Stop with this madness. It was not a stage III. Just wasn't what it seemed. Your son's friend lied and that's all there is to it. Your car is fast but the STG III bubble's are in a different league.

[series]

Dude You Mean A Sxt Neon> Bbbbbsss No Way In Heck>

[McoupeBobby]

sounds about rite
but if it was from a 40 roll he wouda pulled and never looked back

Edit: looking at your mods list, It accually shuda been closer. with that 3.91 diff you shuda been right there with him.

edit again lol: how did you shut down at 160 and you have a 3.91 diff?

[sprp85]

Originally Posted by McoupeBobby

edit again lol: how did you shut down at 160 and you have a 3.91 diff?

Cough Cough
B s cough cough cough

[rt turbo]

Originally Posted by saint166

lol let the flaming begin . i dont lie about racing . not my style if i lose i admit and take it like a man and when i win i dont brag . there are no benifits to come onto a forum and lie about a race . believe what i will but what i posted happened

lol, your damn right let the flaming begin! I race one in my stage 2 plus audi s4 an I GOT MY ASS HANDED TO ME!! it took 375 rwhp in my 93 rx7 to rip that guy apart! THERES NO WAY IN HELL HE IS STAGE 3!! It would take nothing less than FI in an e36 m3 to even remotely hang. that kid is bsing you..

[4tro1.8T]

Originally Posted by rt turbo

lol, your damn right let the flaming begin! I race one in my stage 2 plus audi s4 an I GOT MY ASS HANDED TO ME!! it took 375 rwhp in my 93 rx7 to rip that guy apart! THERES NO WAY IN HELL HE IS STAGE 3!! It would take nothing less than FI in an e36 m3 to even remotely hang. that kid is bsing you..

you should convet to APR Rs4 kit stgIII , then show him whose boss

[rt turbo]

Originally Posted by 4tro1.8T

you should convet to APR Rs4 kit stgIII , then show him whose boss

I sold that car, too damn heavy and sedan-like. But dont worry, I owned him later that night in my Rx7 FD

[Montague]

edit again lol: how did you shut down at 160 and you have a 3.91 diff?[/quote]

160km/h in Canada.

[Bavarian_6shot]

Originally Posted by mpower001

I would agree, but from what he described it sounds reasonable.

Turbo cars despise back pressure, especially if you have a larger than stock turbo. You don't want to be running much of an exhaust if you're going to boost the psi you make the most power at. If he had his exhaust on, he had his boost down. Also, if youre stage III you are playing with your own ECU programming atleast boost and air. He probably tuned down because of exhaust restriction.

I am wanting to do the same thing; use a handheld to switch stages I-II-III and have a cut out before the cat. It only makes sense.

Props to OP for catching a Skittle with his pants down.

[M3vil]

Originally Posted by Montague

edit again lol: how did you shut down at 160 and you have a 3.91 diff?

160km/h in Canada.[/quote]

which is around 100 mphish