S50 version 3.0 take 2

[CosmoE36]

k so here we go again. rebuild part deuce.

after the last motor fiasco this time im not taking any chances. and well this time the whole motor is basically replaced.

new S50 short block and crank with everything replaced. i mean everything

same head but everything in the head is being replaced except cams

once this motor is put together new top mount will be ordered and i still have my t3/67mm turbo with the P trim wheel i wil be swaping out housing to T4 housing and getting turbo rebuilt to hold over until later when the GT40R can be afforded.



short block

CP 8:5:1 86.5mm pistons
Eagle H Beam ESP rods
ARP Rod bolts
ARP Main bolts
ARP Head bolts
Bearings main and rod
new oil pump
all new gaskets and seals

crank, rods and pistons balanced together

Cylinder head

Supertech 1mm oversized valves
Supertech Dual valve springs
Supertech Titanium retainers
Supertech spring seats
Supertech Valve keepers

High performance Valve guides
all new valve stem seals

MLS Cometic .065 Headgasket



and got some pictures of some of the new parts as well.


Block only 65k miles on it






Pistons and rods




Valve train stuff








UPDATED PROGRESS MORE PIX.

Yes. just picked up the block and head from the machine shop.

everything looks great
i had asked for the head to be resurfaced to 50RA per Cometic suggestion and machine shop guy said thats still too rough and resurfaced to 14 RA.

i was advised that the smoother the surface of the head the beter chance that when the head slides back and forth on the headgasket that it wont tear or rip the headgasket and that made a lot of sense to me.


Block was bored, honed and hot tanked.

head was stripped of all parts and cut for the 1mmoversized valves and had the dual valve springs and titanium retainers and spring seats installed with hi performance valve guides and new valve stem seals.

[800hpCIVIC]

It will eighter GO or Blow once more!!!

[bennyfizzle]

no shit...



can't wait to see the next build...i remember seeing your sig a while ago looking for a budget build up or something...thrown that right out the window eh?
lol

[DarksideE36]

Goodtimes man, can't wait to see everything come together.

I knew you wouldn't sell the car

[Furious]

awesome someone to mimic, im in the process of getting my s50 stuff together myself, so its good to know you have basically gone the same route that i plan to go.

[MRMARSH]

good to hear your guna start fresh, just curious tho why the .65 gasket?

[m3jasper]

Glad to see you decided to stick thru it! You decide on what turbo your gonna run?

[CosmoE36]

good to hear your guna start fresh, just curious tho why the .65 gasket?

help raise compression a little. i wanted 9:1 CP pistons but was 5 week order for custom pistons. so .065 gasket and deck the block a little to raise cmopression as well.

i want close to 9:1 as i can get.

Glad to see you decided to stick thru it! You decide on what turbo your gonna run?

T4/67 P trim for now since i have it already until i get GT40R later.

[DarksideE36]

Is there a reason that your aiming for a higher CR than before?

[CosmoE36]

Is there a reason that your aiming for a higher CR than before?

higher compression more power on less boost with proper tuning.. higher compression helps spool up turbo as well.

[MRMARSH]

ahhh ok makes sense, im currently waiting those 5 weeks from cp, it hurts lol

[ebydrc]

beutiful, im glad to see you got everything in good shapeshape. tell me when your ready for that housing or gt40r

[chewysjetta]

Compression is good. Little harder to tune for higher psi, but well eworth it when done.
I'm running 9.5:1 :O

[ebydrc]

Compression is good. Little harder to tune for higher psi, but well eworth it when done.
I'm running 9.5:1 :O

its not any harger to tune there are plenty of 600 hp four bangers running 9.1:1

[NickDanger]

wow look at all those shiny parts!! jealous

[CosmoE36]

wow look at all those shiny parts!! jealous

i know.. i cant wait

[M3Romeo]

I dunno wat type of power u looking for, but you said ur future turbo is a gt40. eagle rods will not do any justice for that turbo, especially if you are looking for 650±. With all of the goodies you bought you could of invested an additonal 700 and got ur self some pauter rods. At least then you don't have to take apart your head again.

For my build I went with the wisecos 8.5:1 87mm bore. w/ pauter rods

[CosmoE36]

I dunno wat type of power u looking for, but you said ur future turbo is a gt40. eagle rods will not do any justice for that turbo, especially if you are looking for 650±. With all of the goodies you bought you could of invested an additonal 700 and got ur self some pauter rods. At least then you don't have to take apart your head again.

For my build I went with the wisecos 8.5:1 87mm bore. w/ pauter rods

thats great. apparently a lot of people like to pay 1500+ for rods. Eagle rods have been proven to 800whp i dont think ill have any problems.

especially since stock s50/52 rods have been take past the 600+rwhp mark.

there are a lot of honda guys using eagle h beam rods on 700+hp levels with no issues.

i guess i could say the same thing about the wisecos you went with? since almost everyone here gets CP pistons to make big HP??

[slcook54]

Awesome man, can wait to see her done she is going to be beautiful

[M3Romeo]

thats great. apparently a lot of people like to pay 1500+ for rods. Eagle rods have been proven to 800whp i dont think ill have any problems.

especially since stock s50/52 rods have been take past the 600+rwhp mark.

there are a lot of honda guys using eagle h beam rods on 700+hp levels with no issues.

$1350 to be exact :> good luck with the eagles and with the build. Definetly have the potential hardware to make serious hp.

[CosmoE36]

Awesome man, can wait to see her done she is going to be beautiful

bro, you and i are both in the same boat and have been for a while. we get things up and going only to get knokced down again with a series of unfortunate events. good to see you arent giving up as well as me either.

[slcook54]

bro, you and i are both in the same boat and have been for a while. we get things up and going only to get knokced down again with a series of unfortunate events. good to see you arent giving up as well as me either.

Yeah, I know if I try enough times it will be right , round 4 or 5, who's counting anyways?

[ebydrc]

thats great. apparently a lot of people like to pay 1500+ for rods. Eagle rods have been proven to 800whp i dont think ill have any problems.

especially since stock s50/52 rods have been take past the 600+rwhp mark.

there are a lot of honda guys using eagle h beam rods on 700+hp levels with no issues.

i guess i could say the same thing about the wisecos you went with? since almost everyone here gets CP pistons to make big HP??

i believe eagle rates their four cyl rods at 1050hp. manley h beam = eagle h beam.....

[ParadigmGuy]

thats great. apparently a lot of people like to pay 1500+ for rods. Eagle rods have been proven to 800whp i dont think ill have any problems.

especially since stock s50/52 rods have been take past the 600+rwhp mark.

there are a lot of honda guys using eagle h beam rods on 700+hp levels with no issues.

i guess i could say the same thing about the wisecos you went with? since almost everyone here gets CP pistons to make big HP??

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with Eagle Rods. But I am saying that just because it works on a Honda, or any other car manufacturer, does not mean that it works on a Bimmer. A perfect example of that is SPEC, they work great on other cars, but a lot of people have problems with them on Bimmers.

[ebydrc]

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with Eagle Rods. But I am saying that just because it works on a Honda, or any other car manufacturer, does not mean that it works on a Bimmer. A perfect example of that is SPEC, they work great on other cars, but a lot of people have problems with them on Bimmers.

where do people get this illusion that a bmw isnt a car the reason spec has had issues is because they are running underrated clutches h-beam rods in the h22 and sr20det 2jzgte are all the same design as the m based motors the rods length and pin dia change thats all.

edit - and on top of that, psi doesnt harm rods in the normal scenerio is vibration and pressure or just vibration.