I have been reading the sin city turbo build by Godfather and saw he has the TEC3r and its the PnP. I went on the SIAS site and saw that they had like a silver one and a purple one $3000 vs. $2000, how do they differ and also when its hooked up can you control the fuel up/down depending on how much boost you want? One more thing, once you hook it up is it transferable from car to car or specifically designed for one car specifically. Thanks
Im interested because it seems like the best tuning options..
Thanks-
brendan
92 325is///
/Conforti chip
/H&R Race Springs
/Bilstein Sports
/M3 kontour rims
/Borla Cat Back
/Short shift
/Custom intake
I have been looking at the TEC3r also. I would like to know the same thing.
-John
Cars:
'88 325i
'96 328i
tec3 is purple, tec3r is silver-ish. I didnt know the tec3 is still for sale... in any case. You would do fine with either one. You can control fuel,timing,boost,idle and much more... and its tranferable.
You have a 1992 and there is no need to go to a standalone unless you want 500+whp. My tuning partner in Latvia has a 92 325is and runs around 17psi as a daily driver in the summer. We both use the stock 402 DME on our cars and have no issues at all. It is completely possible to run up to 400whp if not more using the stock DME, assuming you get good chip tuning. We're both running 42lb injectors as well.
-Curt
stock CR 92 non-vanos 325 / first ever Holset HY35 powered BMW / custom tubular manifold & motor mount / stock DME tuning / tial 50mm bov / 46mm xspower w.g. / green top injectors / IC piping designed by myself (above subframe of course) / 12x28x3" IC / oil return into pan that seems to work / e21 tranny mounts / custom blow through MAF / koni sport kit / 18x8.5 mvr replica's / various leaks & body colours
so if i install the bigger injectors, fuel reg., etc, and bring my car to a dyno they can tune my stock ECU?
92 325is///
/Conforti chip
/H&R Race Springs
/Bilstein Sports
/M3 kontour rims
/Borla Cat Back
/Short shift
/Custom intake
-Curt
stock CR 92 non-vanos 325 / first ever Holset HY35 powered BMW / custom tubular manifold & motor mount / stock DME tuning / tial 50mm bov / 46mm xspower w.g. / green top injectors / IC piping designed by myself (above subframe of course) / 12x28x3" IC / oil return into pan that seems to work / e21 tranny mounts / custom blow through MAF / koni sport kit / 18x8.5 mvr replica's / various leaks & body colours
I have the tec3r PNP. Its a good set up...soon to even better
I should know by next week end!
Stock DME's are great but the whole remote tuning can get tiresome if you are constatly changing things on your car. Once its tuned you cannot modify it yourself. There are a fair number of guys out there who can tune tec and aem stuff now.
Gary Gray
If you can take it apart you can make it faster!
tuning and retuning the stock ECU is possible if you do it yourself. hence things like the forums on and1c.com
Michael McCoy TRM
I couldn't get the and1c.com to work?
I'd be curious how compicated the stock ecu is to tune. I know I can tune my Tec3 its pretty easy to play with with some basic Fuel/ ingnition knowledge.
Send a link for the and1c.com...Any info on early cars running Motronic? I have to retune the 535..I just pulled a crap load of crap off it
Gary Gray
If you can take it apart you can make it faster!
how program would you need to be able to tune an odb2 ecu? how would you modify it? i understand that with odb1 ecu's you can take the chip and put it on an eeprom burner and use turner pro to tune it.
Tec3 and Tec3r sucks. Stay away from them.
Rob - 2000 BMW Z3 M Roadster | 1986 Porsche 944 5.3L LM4
www.and1c.com/forums
OBD-II ECU is flash programmable. Actually makes it easier in some ways. Some have had success with KWP2000's and knockoffs thereof. Others use interfaces provided by EVC or dimsport or other all-in-one tuning suites.
Michael McCoy TRM
AEM
So what do all the rest of you guys do for your tuning>if you dont want to spend 3000 grand on tuning for builds only running 8 to 12 pounds or so. ?
92 325is///
/Conforti chip
/H&R Race Springs
/Bilstein Sports
/M3 kontour rims
/Borla Cat Back
/Short shift
/Custom intake
You can go to ICS for a custom tune from AA or (maybe) NickG.
A word of Internet Forum wisdom: Disregard any advice that begins with "I've heard..."
97 M3/4 - S54, TRM Coilovers, UUC SSK/Sways/LTW Flywheel
how are the wideband tuning dataloggers( E36'n mentioned something about dataloggers): PLX Devices from boostcontroller.com? R-300 and R-500 Something i could use? good?
thanks for your helps guys-
92 325is///
/Conforti chip
/H&R Race Springs
/Bilstein Sports
/M3 kontour rims
/Borla Cat Back
/Short shift
/Custom intake
how much does it cost for the tools needed to reflash the odb2 ecu?
is kwp2000 the software you use to modify the ecu's map? i have the serial connectors to the diagnostic ports from a snap on modis, could i use that to connect to the ecu? how could i read the ecu and rewrite it, thanks for the info!
Last edited by elements018; 02-06-2007 at 06:40 PM.
If you're interested in getting a remote tune from someone, you'll need a wideband o2 sensor with a datalogger that can log afr/lambda, rpms, tps, MAF voltage and boost if possible. Otherwise you'll have to get a base tune, go to a dyno, get a print out, send it to the tuner, get another tune, etc. IMO, getting a datalogging wideband such one from Zeitronix, Innovate or PLX is the best bet if you found someone who can tune your car well.
You could get the KWP2000+ from ebay for around $250 and read your .bin, but than you'd need to know where the maps are and how to properly modify them. That's the tricky part about OBDII, not to many besides the JC, NickG, AA and MarkD know where they are. It'd probably cost you a couple thousand to get the proper software and definition files.Originally Posted by elements018
-Curt
stock CR 92 non-vanos 325 / first ever Holset HY35 powered BMW / custom tubular manifold & motor mount / stock DME tuning / tial 50mm bov / 46mm xspower w.g. / green top injectors / IC piping designed by myself (above subframe of course) / 12x28x3" IC / oil return into pan that seems to work / e21 tranny mounts / custom blow through MAF / koni sport kit / 18x8.5 mvr replica's / various leaks & body colours
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