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Old 10-15-2006, 07:16 PM
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Limmet`s E30 S50B30 turbo dynoed, 999rwhp - 1129bhp

The worlds most powerfull E30 by now i guess Some copy and paste info:
999rwhp with NLR shwitzer s400 with 78mm inducer. 1047nm on the wheels, 1129hp - 1183nm@2,5 bar on motor.

Video: http://boost.no-ip.info/Limmet_broms..._pa_hjulen.AVI
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Well, heres what I think:

I've seen 1000whp cars dyno here in the US and almost all of them have put out a tremendous amount of tire smoke or chunks of flying rubber.. I didn't see any of that in this video...

When ICS performance posted their dyno of 1000whp or whatever it was, I remember one key argument people had (specifically our friends in Europe and Australia), the car had a stock plastic intake manifold. While this car does appear to have a an aluminum plenum, the runners are still the OEM plastic runners..
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When ICS performance posted their dyno of 1000whp or whatever it was, I remember one key argument people had (specifically our friends in Europe and Australia), the car had a stock plastic intake manifold. While this car does appear to have a an aluminum plenum, the runners are still the OEM plastic runners..
if it was our friends in australia who made that kind of power, they would not be questioning the plastic intake manifold. speak with an engineer, just because a arm chair tuner thinks it wont work doesn't mean he is right.
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Well, heres what I think:

I've seen 1000whp cars dyno here in the US and almost all of them have put out a tremendous amount of tire smoke or chunks of flying rubber.. I didn't see any of that in this video...

When ICS performance posted their dyno of 1000whp or whatever it was, I remember one key argument people had (specifically our friends in Europe and Australia), the car had a stock plastic intake manifold. While this car does appear to have a an aluminum plenum, the runners are still the OEM plastic runners..

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I am no mechanic and I havent seen 1000rwhp on the dyno.....only on the track...

But what looks wrong from the video...just didnt seem like the power that the monitor said it was?

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I fully believe that the car in this video made the power the dyno claimed. I just find it funny that when a US company posts a video/dyno of similiar power, the rest of the world claims B.S
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go back and read Andreas posts, dynojet figure was same as his engine made on engine dyno, i.e. no power loss through drivetrain, not saying dynojet is higher than real, or engine dyno lower, but simply there is a big difference in figures from US cars on dynojet compared to other dyno brands used elsewhere, just my 2c
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I'm not getting any video... just loads into my WinMedia player and says connecting. Anyone else having problems?
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Why don't people just do chassis dynos where wheelspin is eliminated?
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go back and read Andreas posts, dynojet figure was same as his engine made on engine dyno, i.e. no power loss through drivetrain, not saying dynojet is higher than real, or engine dyno lower, but simply there is a big difference in figures from US cars on dynojet compared to other dyno brands used elsewhere, just my 2c
I know it's just your 2 cents, but have you ever seen one car put down more on the dynojet than at the crank, at least not in situations like the srt4, where dodge admitted to underrating it?
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I know it's just your 2 cents, but have you ever seen one car put down more on the dynojet than at the crank, at least not in situations like the srt4, where dodge admitted to underrating it?
read my post properly, Andreas put his car on a brand new dynojet, and some runs it read identical power to engine dyno for same fuel and boost, at best was a few % lower than engine dyno at some boost/tune and fuel octane runs

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I have all timeslips here beside me.
I need to scan them to the computer...

Best 60-fot time was 1.62
Best 1/8" 6.55@115

We have used a new dynojet now.
It seems that the number it shows on the rear tires are 80-100% what it has on the flywheel.
It´s a brand new one!

I will post timeslip asap.

I have vid now
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I just find it funny that when a US company posts a video/dyno of similiar power, the rest of the world claims B.S
I find it also funny that many (not all) in the US dont put their cars on the tarmac dyno. Then again, lets not let facts ruin the fiction......
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I find it also funny that many (not all) in the US dont put their cars on the tarmac dyno. Then again, lets not let facts ruin the fiction......
Some cars are built for dyno/marketing. Some cars are built for the 1/4 mile. Why is that so hard to grasp?

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Well, heres what I think:

I've seen 1000whp cars dyno here in the US and almost all of them have put out a tremendous amount of tire smoke or chunks of flying rubber.. I didn't see any of that in this video...

When ICS performance posted their dyno of 1000whp or whatever it was, I remember one key argument people had (specifically our friends in Europe and Australia), the car had a stock plastic intake manifold. While this car does appear to have a an aluminum plenum, the runners are still the OEM plastic runners..
Limmet has done 9.89s @ 240 km/h when the car dynoed 814 bhp, that speaks for itself

814 hp dyno:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...aad8222610.htm

9.89 sec run:
http://www.fiddy.se/filmer/Limmet@mantorp.avi
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Limmet has done 9.89s @ 240 km/h when the car dynoed 814 bhp, that speaks for itself

814 hp dyno:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...aad8222610.htm

9.89 sec run:
http://www.fiddy.se/filmer/Limmet@mantorp.avi
I would say that is plenty ....Thanks for sharing with the community..
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Limmet has done 9.89s @ 240 km/h when the car dynoed 814 bhp, that speaks for itself

814 hp dyno:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...aad8222610.htm

9.89 sec run:
http://www.fiddy.se/filmer/Limmet@mantorp.avi

wow those vids are awsome might be hearding up to sweden soon
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Limmet has done 9.89s @ 240 km/h when the car dynoed 814 bhp, that speaks for itself

814 hp dyno:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...aad8222610.htm

9.89 sec run:
http://www.fiddy.se/filmer/Limmet@mantorp.avi
Yeah...
theres also a big monstrous video of this beast around somewhere (100mb) and its seriously quick...

http://www.limmet.se > filma > gothenburg by night
definately a genuine dyno though it looks like its in one of the guys bedrooms??!

The inlet manifold is a modified S50B30 (or B32) one ....it does have the plastic runners but myself and my cousin have recently tested an S50B32 Manifold to over 30psi with no leakage issues from the runners so it is quite possible.
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read my post properly, Andreas put his car on a brand new dynojet, and some runs it read identical power to engine dyno for same fuel and boost, at best was a few % lower than engine dyno at some boost/tune and fuel octane runs

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So instead of dyno jets reading to high, wouldn't you say that the engine dyno andreas uses reads too low? That sounds more accurate.
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So instead of dyno jets reading to high, wouldn't you say that the engine dyno andreas uses reads too low? That sounds more accurate.
Ohh yes, why didn't I think of that, Dynojets are accurate, and every other dyno in the world reads too low

it really doesn't matter which way around it is, as long as people realise that 1000hp on any other dyno would read much higher on dynojet, comparing mph for a given weight on dragstrip is the only way to compare apples to apples it takes every variable, intentional or not, out of the equation
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