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    S50 version 2.0

    ok so did a lot of thinkning and plannnig tonight. and came to the conclusion that i need to rebuild the motor now anyways. with a 147K on the engine its probably tired anyways.

    so ive planned out:

    CP pistons 8:5:1 compression
    Cometic .70 headgasket
    ARP Head studs
    ARP Rod bolts
    New bearings
    new bottom lower gasket set

    for the head:
    new valve springs
    retainers
    keepers

    have the head shaved for smoothness
    have the block decked, bored and honed

    after all said and done should have nice tight and new motor ready for new life.


    at this point dont really care of the current state of the motor wheather its Rings, pistons, ring lands, or headgasket its all coming out for the new stuff anyways.


    looking to finish this in the next 2 - 3 weeks.


    many thanks to Charles AKA bassmaster for keeping me motivated and not giving up and for all his help.

    care wil be back better than ever









    Last edited by CosmoE36; 08-22-2006 at 02:38 PM.
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    your gonna keep the stock rods?
    do you even know what a plethora is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3 CRAZY
    your gonna keep the stock rods?
    now how did i know that was the first question someone was going to ask.

    answer = yes

    i beleive as well as others who have advised me stock rods will be fine. lotts S50's out there making good power on stock rods.
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    Join the club. I was wondering if VAC or another vendor sells a head component kit, including springs, keepers and retainers? Do you know of anything like that?
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    That sounds, well, expensive.

    I'd at least do a leakdown test before jumping headfirst into a full on rebuild. But if you don want to rebuild one, I have a 'some assembly required' longblock for sale that will suite your needs if you want to minimize downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzintn
    That sounds, well, expensive.

    I'd at least do a leakdown test before jumping headfirst into a full on rebuild. But if you don want to rebuild one, I have a 'some assembly required' longblock for sale that will suite your needs if you want to minimize downtime.
    lol yea sounds expensive but in the long run it will be worth it.

    even if its just a headgasket id still like to go ahea and do all this at once for peace of mind and be able to run 20 psi and good tuning with no worries.

    down time should only be about 2-3 weeks im not too wirried about that though as long as its done right.

    Quote Originally Posted by slcook54
    Join the club. I was wondering if VAC or another vendor sells a head component kit, including springs, keepers and retainers? Do you know of anything like that?
    i dont see a head component kit on their site but i see all the pieces you need its not really that expensive though for what you are getting.

    what are you doing to your motor while its under the knife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzintn
    That sounds, well, expensive.
    Says the guy with 4 M3s, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoE36
    lol yea sounds expensive but in the long run it will be worth it.

    even if its just a headgasket id still like to go ahea and do all this at once for peace of mind and be able to run 20 psi and good tuning with no worries.

    down time should only be about 2-3 weeks im not too wirried about that though as long as its done right.



    i dont see a head component kit on their site but i see all the pieces you need its not really that expensive though for what you are getting.

    what are you doing to your motor while its under the knife?
    Depending on if the head is cracked or not, I might have to get a fresh one. Either way, same stuff as you pretty much, new springs, retainers, keepers and having it milled. Plus an MLS gasket and ARP studs.
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcook54
    Depending on if the head is cracked or not, I might have to get a fresh one. Either way, same stuff as you pretty much, new springs, retainers, keepers and having it milled. Plus an MLS gasket and ARP studs.
    might as well as throw some CP pistons in there too
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoE36
    might as well as throw some CP pistons in there too
    Thats a good idea, the dark side is calling Steve http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=489472

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    Haha, not with this car, I'm done. Maybe with a project 2.8 in the future though , after looking at the springs I actually might skip on those depending on what others say. I think keepers, retainers and new valve guides should suffice.
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    Cosmoe36: Why are you rebuilding exactly? Is the car not running well?

    EDIT: Nevermind, read your other thread just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e36'n
    Cosmoe36: Why are you rebuilding exactly? Is the car not running well?

    EDIT: Nevermind, read your other thread just now.
    yea ive been wanting too for a while but didnt want to pony up the cash but now its unavoidable.

    time for change i suppose.

    i was going to sell the turbo kit and part the parts on the car out and sell the car with the motor as is for significantly reduced price but after thinking things through i might as well just keep on going.
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    UPDATE
    got the motor pulled last night and head separated. everything off to machine shop this week..


    Thanx Charles!!!!! who is on his way back to NC. this man is hard core!! comes down after pulling a all nighter of work and gets my motor pulled and separated and heads out back home to NC this morining
    pix here.










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    Sorry to hear about the motor. Hope all goes well with the rebuild and you can actually get it to run correctly.
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    sorry to hear as well, my s50 goes in for a compression test tommorow as i think ive blow something and hopefully its just the headgasket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keeptheuroalive View Post
    Sorry to hear about the motor. Hope all goes well with the rebuild and you can actually get it to run correctly.
    thanx man. everythings coming together prety smooth so far. just getting expensive lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Furious
    sorry to hear as well, my s50 goes in for a compression test tommorow as i think ive blow something and hopefully its just the headgasket.
    hope your issue isnt anythign serious. good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassmaster View Post
    Parts for sale anyone??
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    you work fast. man those rods look so tiny lol
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    Hey cosmo, how much did the pistons+rings run you if you dont mind me asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodFather
    Hey cosmo, how much did the pistons+rings run you if you dont mind me asking?
    i got them from vac website www.vacmotorsports.com for prices.
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    Looking good! You move fast! Very excited for you going with 8.5:1CR and the rest of those goodies! You should have a 600whp capable car easily soon! So stoked to see you doing it! I really like your choices on mods! Very clean! Can't wait to see more!
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    bottom end back from the machine shop.

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