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    Any Q&A will be answered by George. This is Charlie's car with cams now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian@ICSPerformance


    Any Q&A will be answered by George. This is Charlie's car with cams now.

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    Did you guys get to dyno the BIG BORE THROTTLE BODY?

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    Guess I'm def getting the cams now. Brian send me that when you get a chance. Thanks.

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    so was red the before cams? and other after?

    if so... 5rwhp and 2rwtq incrase.. ?

    anyways, that car is a beast.. wish we had vids of these s/c 'd cars that are hitting 400+rwhp

    didn't this car also hit almost 480rwhp on 14psi ? what psi is he running now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcook54
    Psi?
    Less than 11psi, still utilizing the factory catalytic converter, software is Nick G, this dyno run was on very soft snow tire compound, meaning it would make more power on a harder sidewall tire, the snow tire will absorb a fraction of the RWHP #, anyway car runs real hard, has a breath taking topp end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by resisTm3
    so was red the before cams? and other after?

    if so... 5rwhp and 2rwtq incrase.. ?

    anyways, that car is a beast.. wish we had vids of these s/c 'd cars that are hitting 400+rwhp

    didn't this car also hit almost 480rwhp on 14psi ? what psi is he running now?
    They are both with cams, it actually made on a dyno run 350rwt, I made several runs back to back without any time between runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPORTEDCARS
    Less than 11psi, still utilizing the factory catalytic converter, software is Nick G, this dyno run was on very soft snow tire compound, meaning it would make more power on a harder sidewall tire, the snow tire will absorb a fraction of the RWHP #, anyway car runs real hard, has a breath taking topp end.
    thanks for the info, cant imagine what that top end feels like..
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPORTEDCARS
    ....software is Nick G....
    Sweet. That's what I wanted to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPORTEDCARS
    Less than 11psi, still utilizing the factory catalytic converter, software is Nick G, this dyno run was on very soft snow tire compound, meaning it would make more power on a harder sidewall tire, the snow tire will absorb a fraction of the RWHP #, anyway car runs real hard, has a breath taking topp end.
    less than 11psi
    Nice numbers though

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    Damn Im Impressed!!!! stock cats, 11 psi, stock HG, obdi manifold, cams, and 453whp/344 wtrq? Thats so sweet... Oh well, Im making more trq at 4000 rpms!! hahaha.. .. Big Deal... lol... this is gorgeous... its the cams driving the torque further north.. Super Job, ICS!!!!!

    And.. i see the thing makes as much trq at 7k as it does at 6k.. Must feel a little twinscrewish with that trq curve up top ...

    >>less than 11psi <<

    Ang, I think he was making more than this before, like up to 14 psi, but then he was making 478 whp...Then, boost was reduced to about 11.7 psi, making aroud 440 whp... And now with the cams, it lost about a lb of psi, but making about 13 more whp... Its also hotter now on the dyno then when these other runs were done. Im impressed.
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    great #s... congrats

    gotta love that nickg AFR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPORTEDCARS
    They are both with cams, it actually made on a dyno run 350rwt, I made several runs back to back without any time between runs.
    George,

    How much power did the cams make compared to the previous dyno runs? As for cooling...what does it have? Aftercooler and water injection?

    Oh yeah and the injectors...what size?

    TIA.

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    ICS is like friggin' heaven or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black96m3
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    or Hell, from your necks and intestines POV
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    Nice job, I'll have a little something for you in a couple of weeks. The car is going in on Monday. Lets talk pulley size though last I heard it was a 3.12 with a 6" that is more like 12lbs of boost or more. Never the less great to see the CF's make HUGE power!
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    Nice numbers!

    Just have to chuckle though, a year or so ago people were highly skeptical about those of us that made close to or a bit over 400 RWHP with a Vortech.

    Now 400 RWHP is about as common as 340 RWHP was a couple years ago.
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    Hey Croak when are you creeping over the 400 mark?

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    I just saw this after coming back from Warwick, NY!!!

    Its not a stock HG... I was misinformed by Evosport. We later saw the receipt and noticed it was the MLS 2mm which is equal to the same one Jim sells, the .080" IIRC.

    http://www.evosport.com/product/prod...OM.PER.B36.G20

    As for everything else, I'll get the skinny from George... but I'm sure we will get a run with the boost guage hooked up. With the BBTB, new Clutch & Flywheel, Crappy Snows, and Climate Control that keeps going on the fritz, I still need to resolve a few items and get a good run in. I would be curious to see what it did with the 14.5 psi pulley

    As for boost, I think Paul E hit it on the head. However, I had about 448 on my run with the new boost a pump for the fuel. I only went up to the 453 run due to heavy RGS 17x8s with Dunlop Winter 255/40/17s. I also have a new clutch in there that isn't exactly broken in yet. I'll be adding a few miles, and taking it to the track, and getting it back on the dyno
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    Charlie, is your MLS hg the same thickness as stock, ie, stronger material, perhaps, but creates the same compression as oe HG?
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