The death of HID = HIR ?

[Daved]

The new 9011 (HIR1) and 9012 (HIR2) bulbs put out a nice amount of light as I've read. The 9012 bulbs put out around 2500 lumens which is around the HID territory.



Some cars already come with this bulbs from the factory, like the Viper and the I30.

What do you think?

[Z3speed4me]

who makes em, what sizes do they come in, how much do they cost...and does any1 have pics of them on a bimmer or anything for comparison???

[Daved]

Originally Posted by z3speed4me

who makes em, what sizes do they come in, how much do they cost...and does any1 have pics of them on a bimmer or anything for comparison???

They come in 9011(HIR1) and 9012(HIR2) which are very similar to 9005(HB3) and 9006(HB4). They go for around 29 bucks in eBay.

[gota525i]

Originally Posted by Daved

They come in 9011(HIR1) and 9012(HIR2) which are very similar to 9005(HB3) and 9006(HB4). They go for around 29 bucks in eBay.

They won't work in 9006 adapter, would they?

[Daved]

Originally Posted by gota525i

They won't work in 9006 adapter, would they?

They will work... shhh I've read it's very easy to make them fit.

[XR7Gto328iS]

So you have HID quality lumens and no ballast?

If this will plug and play into a set of ellipsoids, I'm all IN.

[newgsrdriver]

Interesting...how do you modify these to 9006? Anyone have any real world experiences?

[G. P. Burdell]

Bimmerforums member deilenberger wrote about these and other bulbs in the June Roundel. I don't remember all of the details of his article, but I believe he modified the bulb bases to fit his E36 headlights.

[tybmw]

any pics of them on?

[Robstah]

I thought HIDs were in the 3400K and up range. These HIRs look neat and all, but lets get some real results out of them. Someone buy a set and let the testing begin.

[///Mr. Three]

Originally Posted by Robstah

I thought HIDs were in the 3400K and up range. These HIRs look neat and all, but lets get some real results out of them. Someone buy a set and let the testing begin.

I concur..........

[Daved]

Originally Posted by XR7Gto328iS

So you have HID quality lumens and no ballast?

Yes. Obviously their life expectancy is not as good as HIDs but I still think the cost/benefit is very good (plus you don't have to deal with ballasts, that's what I hate about HIDs).

Originally Posted by XR7Gto328iS

If this will plug and play into a set of ellipsoids, I'm all IN.

They won't be plug and play into ellipsoids as they're different. You'll have to modify them as G. P. Burdell mentioned but it's doable. If I could get a set of these bulbs here, I would have already modded them.

[Daved]

Originally Posted by Robstah

I thought HIDs were in the 3400K and up range. These HIRs look neat and all, but lets get some real results out of them. Someone buy a set and let the testing begin.

Rob, get me a set and I'll put them into my headlights and take pics. I will drill and dremel my Bosch's to make them fit.

[Robstah]

Originally Posted by Daved

Rob, get me a set and I'll put them into my headlights and take pics. I will drill and dremel my Bosch's to make them fit.

PM me your address and an online location on where to buy these and I will get them for you.

[Daved]

Originally Posted by Robstah

PM me your address and an online location on where to buy these and I will get them for you.

PM sent.

[Daved]

Originally Posted by G. P. Burdell

Bimmerforums member deilenberger wrote about these and other bulbs in the June Roundel. I don't remember all of the details of his article, but I believe he modified the bulb bases to fit his E36 headlights.

Can you scan the article please?

[jeebus]

Hmmm. So by the chart it shows that the 2500 lumen ones are running 73 watts at 13.2 volts. Don't we only have 12 volt cars? And isn't 73 watts a bit high for stock wiring? Running at 12 volt, 60 watt, they have roughly the same lumen output as Silverstar 9005's. Doesn't sound that spectacular to me. HIDs are cheap, $300 and you have bulbs that last for years and years.

[Daved]

Originally Posted by jeebus

Hmmm. So by the chart it shows that the 2500 lumen ones are running 73 watts at 13.2 volts. Don't we only have 12 volt cars? And isn't 73 watts a bit high for stock wiring? Running at 12 volt, 60 watt, they have roughly the same lumen output as Silverstar 9005's. Doesn't sound that spectacular to me. HIDs are cheap, $300 and you have bulbs that last for years and years.

Our cars run at around 14 volts, so it's higher than 13.2v.

Osram Silverstars put out 365 lumens, Sylvania Silverstars put out even less. Welcome to the real world.

9012 bulbs last 1000 hours.

[wushucivic]

interesting technology but i'll stick to my 35 watt 3200 lumen HIDs

[Robstah]

Originally Posted by wushucivic

interesting technology but i'll stick to my 35 watt 3200 lumen HIDs

And I'll stick to my 6000K HIDs...

[Daved]

Originally Posted by Robstah

And I'll stick to my 6000K HIDs...

And I'll stick to my xenon-look 300 lumens 4000K 100 hours H1 bulbs... oh no, wait...

[Robstah]

Originally Posted by Daved

And I'll stick to my xenon-look 300 lumens 4000K 100 hours H1 bulbs... oh no, wait...

[Daved]

I found some comparo pics between the halogen 9005 and the HIR 9001:

9005:


9011:




9005:


9011:




9005:


9011:

[biggafigga]

Originally Posted by Daved

I found some comparo pics between the halogen 9005 and the HIR 9001:

Looks the same?

[mbanks21]

The K is the Kelvin rating which gives you color. Lumen is brightness. 4300K is what BMW and others use for factory headlights. 6000K has some blue, 12000K is deep purple. Factory halogens are about 800 lumens (or the brightness of 800 candles) whereas HID's can be up to 3000 lumens.