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  1. 01-05-2005, 11:22 AM #1
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    ICS Monster M3 621 WHP Dyno

    Hi Guys,

    We completed some baseline runs on our Dynojet before the teardown for a new build with this car for much more power. Please do not ask what we are doing or using because we are doing some testing for a few manufacturers as well as our own products and can't discuss them with the public at this time.

    Please note the following:

    1. NO A/F Chart (We have all of our dyno 02 sensors in other cars that are being built/tuned)
    2. Getty 92 Octane (no race fuel or anything else, Defacto M6 was with us when we got gas)
    3. NO Water/Alky Injection
    4. 1.5 Bar Boost
    5. 50 Dg F outside
    6. Raining Hard outside

    We are very busy and might not be able to do Q&A as usual. These are the numbers before we go insane with this car, enjoy....

    ICS Monster M3 Dyno Plot



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    What was the turbocharger ? T61 i think but it is too small for such power - please tell me

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAMIKADZE
    What was the turbocharger ? T61 i think but it is too small for such power - please tell me
    It is our usual 35R Turbo Setup

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    Gotta go build some cars, till then...
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    Congrats again George very impressive other than the little blip from 6300 to 6500 what was that misfire or slight detonation as the other run did not have it.

    Very impressive dyno for smoothing 0 and that's using 92 octane and no water injection

    On this dyno what is the spec on this GT35.
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    Gotta love mo power!

    Can't wait to see this monster with the new setup...
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    Quote Originally Posted by M3TurboCa
    Congrats again George very impressive other than the little blip from 6300 to 6500 what was that misfire or slight detonation as the other run did not have it.

    Very impressive dyno for smoothing 0 and that's using 92 octane and no water injection

    On this dyno what is the spec on this GT35.
    The blimp was a fraid wire on the dynojet inducter that grounded out. With W.I and some more timing I believe she has 30-40 more whp.
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    Thanks for the clarification George Maybe another 15 to 20hp with the water injection, if you are running the same boost with tuning of the a/f and timing.

    But then again I am no tuner.

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    Say what? Thank you for the dyno sheet! WOW! Amazing power! 92 octane with zero smoothing and no water/alky injection? Damn! Congratulations!

    Video with camera mount of speedo at 1.5 BAR or ban!
    Where have I been? Astral projecting.

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    I am sure this is a beginner question but why does one graph make peak power/torque at 4k rpms and the other make peak power at 6k rpms?

    I am confused about the difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95RogueM3
    I am sure this is a beginner question but why does one graph make peak power/torque at 4k rpms and the other make peak power at 6k rpms?

    I am confused about the difference between the two.

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    Nice M3 you have there!

    So are you talking about the first graph that the monster came out with before? If you happen to know the thread where that is...could you post both of them please so we can all compare?
    Where have I been? Astral projecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highboostingm3
    Nice M3 you have there!

    So are you talking about the first graph that the monster came out with before? If you happen to know the thread where that is...could you post both of them please so we can all compare?

    No, i think he's referring to the chart above...and the difference between runfile_006 and runfile_009. One peaks power around 4K and the other peaks around 6K!
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    Quote Originally Posted by highboostingm3
    Nice M3 you have there!

    So are you talking about the first graph that the monster came out with before? If you happen to know the thread where that is...could you post both of them please so we can all compare?
    Thanks. No, I meant in the above graph the peak power outputs (2 humps) are similar in height (620rwhp) but one occurs at 4k rpms on the x-axis and the other occurs at 6k rpms on the x-axis.

    I think I am reading the chart right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3ryder NY
    No, i think he's referring to the chart above...and the difference between runfile_006 and runfile_009. One peaks power around 4K and the other peaks around 6K!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3ryder NY
    No, i think he's referring to the chart above...and the difference between runfile_006 and runfile_009. One peaks power around 4K and the other peaks around 6K!
    Oh. Why torque peaks way earlier than hp? I see. A master tuner or straight A student can better explain that in the most proper scientific way. Where is Def or Eeeeee36?
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    Quote Originally Posted by highboostingm3
    Oh. Why torque peaks way earlier than hp? I see. A master tuner or straight A student can better explain that in the most proper scientific way. Where is Def or Eeeeee36?
    No, in that graph the torque and hp of file 6 occur much eariler than those of runfile 9. For one run the torque and power occur much eariler than in the second run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95RogueM3
    No, in that graph the torque and hp of file 6 occur much eariler than those of runfile 9. For one run the torque and power occur much eariler than in the second run.

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    I probably laid into one earlier than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highboostingm3
    Oh. Why torque peaks way earlier than hp? I see. A master tuner or straight A student can better explain that in the most proper scientific way. Where is Def or Eeeeee36?

    I see...

    Rich, you and i were both looking at the graph incorrectly. The two lines that peak at approx 4K are both trq output in different runs... ie. light blue and dark red are both TRQ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3ryder NY
    I see...

    Rich, you and i were both looking at the graph incorrectly. The two lines that peak at approx 4K are both trq output in different runs... ie. light blue and dark red are both TRQ....
    Ahhh. Thanks Chris.


    Cameron, you were right..sorry about that.

    George, thanks for the info. I need to come and dyno and go for a ride sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95RogueM3
    Ahhh. Thanks Chris.


    Cameron, you were right..sorry about that.

    George, thanks for the info. I need to come and dyno and go for a ride sometime.

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