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    CES - Maximum PSI - Technique Tuning - 6765 Kit - Breaking Dyno Records at CES

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    Nice numbers! What type of fuel system are you using, stock fuel lines with intank walbro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by black bnr32 View Post
    damn. love it.
    Me too.

    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    Nice numbers! What type of fuel system are you using, stock fuel lines with intank walbro?
    Stock fuel lines to the fuel regulator, then to -6 lines to the fuel rail, then back to stock lines. In tank walbro with a boost-a-pump.

    I think it has more in her. Nick G doesnt want to push it without being able to view knock activity. He wasnt able to do that on his dyno due to wheel spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcvee View Post
    Nice!!!

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    Thanks Don.

    Quote Originally Posted by NickG View Post
    Now that's a nice graph
    Yes it . Thats what good tuning gets ya!

    Quote Originally Posted by EMC View Post
    Awesome.

    Needs cooler temps!
    Thanks Eric. I still havent forgot about the bracket. Once I pick the car up in a week or so, Ill ship it back to you. Thanks again for the help

    I believe John at CES attempted another run when the temps died down to around 60 ish. The car was well on its way to making more power, but we had some issues that cut the run short. Hopefully we can get a run or two in with some cooler temps.

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    Can we get some more info? What psi? What octane pump gas? At what psi does the meth come on?


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    Wow, I think that is my fav power curve yet. Wow. Please, more specs.

    What's the A/R on the turbo. Precision turbo I assume? Journal or BB? Boost pressure on this run. 93 octane? Water injection?

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    Wow, this give me hope for some good numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmGuy View Post
    Can we get some more info? What psi? What octane pump gas? At what psi does the meth come on?
    Those were some great #'s LK! Very pleased that we are seeing these numbers with a stock ecu and Nick G. 80# inj. tuning. We are going to adjust the hfs meth kit to come in a little less between 4-5K rpms so that we can lean out the a/f's there a bit since they dip into the low 10's, and then have it come in a bit stronger towards the higher rpms to keep a/f's under 12.0 up top.

    The car boosted a peak of 23.5 psi, with boost avg at 22-23psi throughout. 93 octane pump gas and 50/50 water/meth. Meth comes in according to IDC and I believe Luke is running the largest jet that comes with the kit.

    It can probably be pushed a little more on pump, but Nick would have to make sure the car doesn't see knock with more boost. Had the pleasure of doing some test runs on the street, and all I can say is the car pulls like a freight train right to redline... Boost response is excellent on the street. Crazy fast car!

    I've also attached a dyno graph of our stg3 60# inj. AA tuned turbo car with the old t3 aa manifold setup running 21 psi with a gt35r turbo for some comparison 100octane + meth... and another comparison graph with SM3's 4094r kit boosting 17psi with a 60# Nick G. stock ecu tune, 93 oct + meth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesmechanical View Post
    Wow, I think that is my fav power curve yet. Wow. Please, more specs.

    What's the A/R on the turbo. Precision turbo I assume? Journal or BB? Boost pressure on this run. 93 octane? Water injection?
    .96 A/R on the turbo. Dual BB Precision billet 67R...

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    Thanks, that's some good info. Numbers obviously look great!

    If I'm reading it right, this turbo actually spooled slower than both the 35 and the 4094 though, that'd be disappointing.

    For the 50/50 meth/water injection - Was it 50/50 by mass or volume?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmGuy View Post
    Thanks, that's some good info. Numbers obviously look great!

    If I'm reading it right, this turbo actually spooled slower than both the 35 and the 4094 though, that'd be disappointing.

    For the 50/50 meth/water injection - Was it 50/50 by mass or volume?
    the 35r is to be expected, but the 4094r is only on 17psi.
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    Im like 300 RPMs slower than a 35....not to worried about that.

    50/50 by volume

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmGuy View Post
    Thanks, that's some good info. Numbers obviously look great!

    If I'm reading it right, this turbo actually spooled slower than both the 35 and the 4094 though, that'd be disappointing.

    For the 50/50 meth/water injection - Was it 50/50 by mass or volume?
    3L with billet 67
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoostedBmwM3 View Post
    the 35r is to be expected, but the 4094r is only on 17psi.
    I wouldn't expect it on the 35R. But I would guess that the 35R had a smaller AR and might have been on a 3.2 also.

    Quote Originally Posted by GT35Rm3 View Post
    Im like 300 RPMs slower than a 35....not to worried about that.

    50/50 by volume
    Yeah, nothing to worry about, I was just curious. Looks like it'll be a very fun car. I'm running the same turbo with a .68 AR (for now).

    Quote Originally Posted by mike radowski View Post
    3L with billet 67
    3.2L with 4094 if I remember correctly
    Makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if the 35R had a smaller AR also.


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    Any comments on Luke's/SM3's vs George's 4088 set up? I imagine the tunes are similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black bnr32 View Post
    Any comments on Luke's/SM3's vs George's 4088 set up? I imagine the tunes are similar.
    Agree. I am very interested in how this turbo compares to a GT40/88R.

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