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E39 540 1997 Prod 08/96
I just upgraded my steering wheel from the 4-spoke wheel to the 3-spoke M-sport wheel. The original wheel had cruise control, audio control, circulate air and phone buttons on the wheel. The new wheel only has cruise and audio functions. The audio buttons work great, but not the cruise buttons.
I pulled the white wire out of the slip ring connector and h-tapped it to the ibus coming from the MFL under the dash. The track and volume controls work fine, but the cruise control is not working. My existing system used a cruise control button on the dash as well as controls on the wheel.
Do I just need to exchange CCM under the dash to the newer 65718375497 HW:08 SW:04? Or do I need to run the wire from the black lead of the slip ring to pin 24 of the CCM under the dash? Or both?
Here is my parts list:
32342228670 Wheel
32342229130 Airbag
32341094261 Slip Ring
61312489879 Radio Module
61312695126 Speed Module
61102493715 Connecting line
o 1997 540i6 o Dinan supercharger system o Dinan stage 3 suspension system o Dinan wheels o UUC EVO3 SSK/DSSR o SS Headers o M-Tech illuminated shifter o M5 3.62 LSD o Cubic trim o Gauge rings o OEM In-dash CD o Ultimate pedals o Hella AE's o M-Sport Steering Wheel o 400 RWHP o A/W intercooler o Killer Chiller
Yes the older version use a separate button to turn cc on. With the latest module you can turn it on and off with jusy the O button on the wheel.
1998 BMW M3 3.2 Cabrio Alpinweiί III on Schwarz German spec 1 of 12
SMG SRA PDC AUC OBC GSM HK UURS IHKA FGR MFL
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I don't think the current version of my CCM works at all with the wheel modules I have now. The recirculation system keeps coming on. I had to pull the black wire at pin 3 out of the the slip ring to stop it from looping on and off. I am hoping a newer CCM will solve this issue. I have not rewired anything for the cruise control so I hope this is the fix.
o 1997 540i6 o Dinan supercharger system o Dinan stage 3 suspension system o Dinan wheels o UUC EVO3 SSK/DSSR o SS Headers o M-Tech illuminated shifter o M5 3.62 LSD o Cubic trim o Gauge rings o OEM In-dash CD o Ultimate pedals o Hella AE's o M-Sport Steering Wheel o 400 RWHP o A/W intercooler o Killer Chiller
possible to connect the CC module like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E36-CRUISE-CONTROL-MODULE-RELAY-CONTROL-UNIT-/320757399894?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM& hash=item4aaea18156 to MFSW?
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oops, seems I need to get another CC kit.
so, if I have CC with 07 04 module, how is the wiring to MFL module? and if I can get 08 04 module, can I just swap 07 04 module or I need to make some modification on existing 07 04 wiring?
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Yes the car came with an MFL module.
I pulled the wht wire out of the slip ring connector and h-tapped it to the wht-gry-yel wire coming out of the MFL connector.
The cruise control works, the back lighting works and audio buttons all work on the wheel, but the four cruise buttons all turn on the recirculation system. Very strange
Another post of someone having a similar problem.
Last edited by 540-S3; 10-16-2011 at 10:17 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
o 1997 540i6 o Dinan supercharger system o Dinan stage 3 suspension system o Dinan wheels o UUC EVO3 SSK/DSSR o SS Headers o M-Tech illuminated shifter o M5 3.62 LSD o Cubic trim o Gauge rings o OEM In-dash CD o Ultimate pedals o Hella AE's o M-Sport Steering Wheel o 400 RWHP o A/W intercooler o Killer Chiller
I found another thread with a subject matter expert to help me. Vlacki wrote out this explanation (see below) on what I need to do, but because of the language barrier I am having a hard time understanding what he wants me to do. When I ask him he seems to get upset even through I offered to pay him. Can anyone else make heads or tails out of this?
Here is what I have so far:
It sounds like I pull out the cable to the MFL module and leave it out. Then do the cross connects. Since the wheel modules have the MFL function built in, he is trying to take the MFL module under the dash out of the picture. That way the wheel functions as it was designed to. Trying to figure out the pin outs for the cross connects.
Wiring diagram
http://wds.spaghetticoder.org/en/e39/
Overview
http://wds.spaghetticoder.org/en/svg...3782.svg?m=e39
I think this is the correct wiring diagram for the wheel:
http://wds.spaghetticoder.org/en/svg...2095.svg?m=e39
MFL Connector
http://wds.spaghetticoder.org/en/zinfo/E39_PA105A.htm
Steps as I understand them:
1. Swap the old illumination wire (grey/red) to the empty pin on the 6pin slip ring connector (not used pin)
2. Make a bridge on the MFL module between the IBUS wire (white/gray/yellow - pin 6) going to the radio/cluster and the other #1 wire that goes to the wheel pin 1.
3. Make a bridge on the MFL module between the Cruise wire (yellow/black - Pin 5) going to the GR2 and the wire #2 going to the wheel pin 2.
Any help would be appreciated, but as I told him, I will pay anyone that understands this and can step me through exactly what I need to do.
BL - Blau - Blue
BR - Braun - Brown
GE - Gelb - Yellow
GN - Grόn - Green
GR - Grau - Grey
OR - Orange - Orange
RS - Rosa - Pink
RT - Rot - Red
SW - Schwartz - Black
VI - Violett - Purple
WS - weiί - White
TR - Transparent - Transparent
Vlacki's Explanation:
if your car is prod 8/96 you have the "MFL modul" under the dashboard (left side above left leg). Black box, same size as EWS modul, white 26pin connector, about 7 wires go in it, installed in E39/E38 until 9/96. This modul has to be eiminated (connector unpluged) and on that connector made some jumps between wires.
The thing is that on the old cars the ilumination of the steering MFL buttons is by wire (old school) as on newer is by Ibus digitaly. Old system have
- ilumination
- #1 wire MFL from modul (power)
- #2 idem (data radio+cruise together)
- ground
- horn
This makes the 5 wires to the slipring, one is digital
New system has
- ibus (radio, MFL diagnostic and ilumination)
- cruise (GR2 modul)
- power
- ground
- horn
same number of wires but different wiring. 2 digital wires
The best way is to get a 15inch wire with bmw pin and do:
- remove the MFL modul
- swap the old ilumination wire to the empty pin on the 6pin sliprig connector (not used pin)
- make a bridge on the MFL modul between the IBUS wire going to the radio/cluster and the other #1 wire that goes to the wheel
- make a bridge on the MFL modul between the Cruise wire going to the GR2 and the wire #2 going to the wheel
- place the #1 (ibus) and #2 (cruise) as they should be on the new slipring (ibus is white/gray/yellow, as for the cruise I don't know by memory)
- wire the 15inch wire with the bmw pin in the slipring connector where the MFL gets it's power and the other end to above the clutch pedal where the common points are. Cut the wire if too long, clamp/solder a "2.8mm female flat isolated pin" (can get in a electrical store or reused it from a scrap BMW and solder it on the wire in the car). Insert the wire with the pin to the forks of the common points. The common points are a black box containing smaller black boxes in which same wires go in. The MFL is powered same wire as brake switch (purple/yellow if I remeber correctly).
- inside the wheel where the MFL switches are the correct position of ibus, cruise, power and ground has to be check as it's different between slipring (9/96 change). The color slides on the connectors prevent of installing not correct switch years (blue or white), but if modifications have been made in past by previous owners is better to check again.
- at the end you wil have 6 wires to the slipring, but as the slipring is only 5 wires the 6th wire ilumination (from before) has no function and this is what we want.
In short: The 2 digital wires comming from the MFL go to the MFLmodul connector and on the bridges continue to Ibus and Cruise. Ground, horn remains the same, power is added same as brakes.
This all together should take 30min do install. It's the faster way possible and the best to do a clean job with minimum effort (plus is reversible in 5min). Any other way (clamping wires directly to slipring or cutting out connectors, ducktape solutions...) is wrong as the car wireing is damaged and possible faults may be produced in the future. If the thing doesn't work recheck the wiring if done properly. If you don't understand read it gain and again. Everything you need to know is writen, for any extra stuff open online BMW EWS and chech the wires it self (cruise modul is under "GR 2", MFL under MFL). If I have to check diagrams and similar I charge by the hour!
o 1997 540i6 o Dinan supercharger system o Dinan stage 3 suspension system o Dinan wheels o UUC EVO3 SSK/DSSR o SS Headers o M-Tech illuminated shifter o M5 3.62 LSD o Cubic trim o Gauge rings o OEM In-dash CD o Ultimate pedals o Hella AE's o M-Sport Steering Wheel o 400 RWHP o A/W intercooler o Killer Chiller
Those looking for HW08 cruise modules should search ebay for e46 modules, not e39. There are at least 10 on eBay UK alone. They would be for pre drive by wire cars, make sure your car has the same number of cylinders as the doner car.
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Ok I am just a little confused about the CC unit. I have one here that is a HW06SW03.
Am I understanding that I would not be able to use the I/O switch to turn the cruise on and off. Sorry if this has been covered, I dont mind buying the right unit but wanted to make sure before I spend any money. Im using a Heated 4 spoke wheel. Got the switch with the SW Heater button on it and the bag. Dont really care for the rec button.
Thanks
Matt
This upgrade replaces the single stage 4-spoke wheel to the single stage 3-spoke sport wheel for pre 9/96 production E39s.
I was able to get my conversion done with no issues and all functions working correctly. This also resolves the issue with the recirculation system coming on at random. This took a lot of research, misinformation, trial and error to figure out, but it is really a simple mod. No wires were cut, soldered or H-tapped.
Sport Wheels
[09/97-03/99]
P/N 32 34 2 228 670 M-Sport Wheel w/o phone buttons [09/97-03/99]
P/N 32 34 2 228 671 M-Sport Wheel w/ phone buttons [09/97-03/99]
P/N 32 34 2 229 130 M-Sport Airbag single-stage [09/96-03/99]
Either wheel can be retrofitted as long as you get the correct connecting line, radio and speed module for your either the 670 or 671 wheel. Slip ring is the same for both wheels.
My Parts List
32342228670 Wheel - w/o phone
32342229130 Airbag
32341094261 Slip Ring
61312489879 Radio Module - w/o phone
61312695126 Speed Control Module - w/o phone
61102493715 Connecting line- w/o phone
65718375497 Cruise Control Module HW:07 SW:04
Cruise Control Upgrade:
I removed a CCM PN 65718396062 HW:5 SW:03 and installed PN 65718375497 HW:07 SW:04. Part was $30 on eBay. The cruise button in the dash trim piece is now unplugged.
MFL Jumpers:
I permanently unplugged the MFL module from under the dash. On the 26-pin MFL connector I jumpered pins 1 and 3 (wheel power) and pins 2 and 4 (wheel ground).
Slip Ring Mod:
I removed the black cruise wire and the white IBUS wire coming from the 6-pin slip ring connector. This is the pigtail coming out of the slip ring - see pic below. Leave the female pin on each wire.
NOTE:
I ran the same type wire I used for the jumpers to make connections from the MFL plug to the wires removed from the slip ring connector. The wire was single strand 22/24-gauge. It fit snugly into the MFL connector as jumpers and into the pins I removed from the slip ring.
Cruise Connection:
I inserted the jumper wire into pin 5 of the MFL connector and ran it to the black cruise wire removed from the slip ring. Insert the jumper wire into the pin of the black wire and heat shrink jumper wire and pin together.
IBUS Connection:
I inserted the jumper wire into pin 6 of the MFL connector and ran it to the black cruise wire removed from the slip ring. Insert the jumper wire into the pin of the black wire and heat shrink jumper wire and pin together.
Here are some pics of the refurbished single stage wheel I purchased from a guy in Germany. He sells the complete wheel, but I only bought the wheel without any modules or airbag. His eBay name is tainik
Last edited by 540-S3; 11-24-2011 at 01:51 PM.
o 1997 540i6 o Dinan supercharger system o Dinan stage 3 suspension system o Dinan wheels o UUC EVO3 SSK/DSSR o SS Headers o M-Tech illuminated shifter o M5 3.62 LSD o Cubic trim o Gauge rings o OEM In-dash CD o Ultimate pedals o Hella AE's o M-Sport Steering Wheel o 400 RWHP o A/W intercooler o Killer Chiller
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Yea. I want to put the 4 spoke e39 wheel in my e36. I'm trying to find out the difference between the cc unit 0603 and the 0804. I would like to make the I/o button on the wheel work without the second switch on the dash. I was asking about the difference between the 2 cc control units
I think any module after say 1996 (HW05 ish) should support the 0/1 button. However the HW08 cost the same as the earlier ones, so get that one if your HW06 doesn't work.
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Ok. Got ya.
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That info comes straight from Dancert. He seems to be the expert in it. So I go by his words. I guess I will find out when I get to fit it.
Although I will never know 100% sure as the buttons I got have the "O" only, while I explicitly ordered the latest and correct part number that would have the I/O switch. So I wonder if they maybe inserted a button with wrong symbol, while the electronic are a correct I/O version.
1998 BMW M3 3.2 Cabrio Alpinweiί III on Schwarz German spec 1 of 12
SMG SRA PDC AUC OBC GSM HK UURS IHKA FGR MFL
IG: https://www.instagram.com/iflok/
The wires on my cc plug do not match up with this. My car is a 94 325i vert. Something must be different.Originally Posted by dancerst
The wheel is in. Radio side and heated wheel. Just need to finish cc
ok. wait for my instructions, i’ll try to write you tomorrow
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