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Thread: Turbo E36 S52 M3 build / project

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    Turbo E36 S52 M3 build / project

    ALL supercharger, headers, exhaust etc parts are sold. This is not a for sale thread. : )

    Summary: Lots of this is already done, but yeah.

    Precision CBB billet 6262, t4 .68 w/ ported comp housing
    RC 750cc injectors
    Precision 46mm wastegate
    Tial Q BOV
    Custom top mount turbo manifold
    Precision 750hp intercooler


    TEC3R
    Ross forged pistons ~9:1
    Pauter rods
    Ferrea valves and springs
    ported head
    stock S52 cams
    M50 manifold
    RC throttle body
    Baffled oil pan

    Southbend stage 5 clutch
    F1 steel single mass flywheel
    Koala diff
    Rouge diff housing / solid diff bushings
    AA diff support bracket
    TMS adjustable rear control arms
    Bimmerworld RTAB reinforcement w/ new bushings and poly shims
    TCKlein coilovers
    TCK camber plates
    Front strut mount reinforcements
    TMS swaybars
    Group N motor mounts
    TMS poly trans bushings w/braces
    AA rear strut bar
    Stainless clutch line

    Well, here goes.

    I have a 96' M3, which has a built S52 and had an RMS stage 2 supercharger setup and Tec3r standalone. I am replacing the supercharger setup with a custom turbo setup based around a Precision 6262 cbb, billet turbo and a custom manifold.

    at first:








    Then, off with the supercharger bits and all of that. Removed the RMS stuff, turner headers, active track pipe, etc.





    Oh, bought a set of Kinesis K18 wheels (pre-Lexani buyout)



    Pulling motor and removing excess wiring that is not needed with the standalone and the few components I run.



    traction control motor - out



    Burned up friction disk on active autowerk flywheel. darnIT. Need to buy another or find a friction disk.



    Alternator is shot because it had large bugs in it that fused some feces together...



    Crusty motor in crusty engine bay...... not for long!



    Motor out. yay.



    Thrashed active autowerk clutch. haha i cant imagine why!!?!?!! lol.





    freaked up engine bay. Waiting for grinder and welder....



    Turbo arrives!








    Then, I pulled the Sunbelt cams, cam trays and head off of the car and then covered them in oil and bagged them and stored them for safe keeping until reassembly.







    Yummy




    And that is where I am at right now. Doing a clutch in a Hyandai, so the M3 waits another day for work..

    I am currently welding the engine bay (myself), shaving all of the holes, seam welding all of the body seams and smoothing stuff before it gets repainted. Pics of that soon.

    : D
    Last edited by Mallman; 03-03-2011 at 11:27 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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    nice. Why are you pulling the motor? just to clean? Wondering cause you said it is already built. What are the internals?
    | 1997 Estoril M3 - TURBO - |
    | GT35R | 8.5:1 forged internals | ARP stuffs | SS Oring Block w/ elring | Fully balanced & blueprinted 3.3L S52 | Nick G Tuning |
    | 46mm Precision gate| 62# injectors | Dual Walbro's |
    Goal: 600+ whp pump gas reliable 10 second car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rt turbo View Post
    nice. Why are you pulling the motor? just to clean? Wondering cause you said it is already built. What are the internals?
    Pauter rods, Ross pistons, Ferrea valves and springs.

    Pulled motor because I am switching to stock cams, doing the head gasket, have to tap the oil pan and I am shaving up the engine bay and painting.

    Oh hey there lil guy....




    Just some garage fun



















    Got some new parts:

    ARP Studs from Clovold



    VANOs parts to reinstall VANOs on my motor, from Clovold



    Stainless header flange for the custom turbo manifold.... : D



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    Those are the old undercut ARP studs. I would not use those.

    Get the ARP 2000 non-undercut studs for this build.
    | 1997 Estoril M3 - TURBO - |
    | GT35R | 8.5:1 forged internals | ARP stuffs | SS Oring Block w/ elring | Fully balanced & blueprinted 3.3L S52 | Nick G Tuning |
    | 46mm Precision gate| 62# injectors | Dual Walbro's |
    Goal: 600+ whp pump gas reliable 10 second car.
    -2007 335i Sport Package

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    Thouse look to be I-beam rods....
    RK tunes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt turbo View Post
    Those are the old undercut ARP studs. I would not use those.

    Get the ARP 2000 non-undercut studs for this build.
    Yeah they are. I bought them before I knew about the 2000s. They will be sold.


    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill1991 View Post

    Thouse look to be I-beam rods....
    ?

    http://www.pauter.com/4340_rods.htm
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    Fabulous documentation!

    Lovely engine score!

    Great taste for finer beverages.

    Helluva DIY king here.

    I'm a big engine bay shaving fan.

    WIN.

    Where have I been? Astral projecting.

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    o they lok to be + beam.
    Disregard what i said. idk whats wrong with me
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    Some more parts arrived and I took some pictures of them because i like new, shiny things.









    lol, looks like the DEI picture!









    yay parts.

    got these in the mail.

    anyone need 2 750 cc injectors?




    Kinesis K18s



    Out with the old, in with the new







    Woops. Thats where my money is. haha



    Some 255/40/17s. mmmm



    Some ROUGH bodywork pics of the bay.









    Alright, thats all for now, minus all of the banter from the other thread I have on Eurowerks.org

    Engine bay is actually almost ready for primer, just dont have any pictures right now that are not some weird point in mud.
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    very nice sir

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    Great job cannot wait to see the finished product..

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    Looking good, what're you doing with the old wheels?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmGuy View Post
    Looking good, what're you doing with the old wheels?

    I have the OZs for sale locally right now but I am guessing that I will end up shipping them since very few locals have more than $5 to spend on a car.

    PM me if you are interested. Looking for $1,050 with the tires on them. Decent deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallman View Post
    I have the OZs for sale locally right now but I am guessing that I will end up shipping them since very few locals have more than $5 to spend on a car.

    PM me if you are interested. Looking for $1,050 with the tires on them. Decent deal.
    What size are they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmGuy View Post
    What size are they?
    Your PM box is full. Here is what I was going to PM you.

    the wheels are 17 x 8.5 and 17 x 9

    here is my local for sale thread

    http://eurowerks.org/showthread.php?t=31585

    I have shipped plenty of wheels before and i don't mind doing it at all.

    I bought the wheels last spring and the tires that were on them were junk so i replaced them, drove on them for a summer and not i have too many wheels around, so i figured i would list these since i want to run my Kinesis wheels this summer.

    LMK if you want more info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallman View Post
    Your PM box is full. Here is what I was going to PM you.

    the wheels are 17 x 8.5 and 17 x 9

    here is my local for sale thread

    http://eurowerks.org/showthread.php?t=31585

    I have shipped plenty of wheels before and i don't mind doing it at all.

    I bought the wheels last spring and the tires that were on them were junk so i replaced them, drove on them for a summer and not i have too many wheels around, so i figured i would list these since i want to run my Kinesis wheels this summer.

    LMK if you want more info.
    I like those wheels, but I don't want to go to 17s, thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ParadigmGuy View Post
    I like those wheels, but I don't want to go to 17s, thanks.
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    Sweet Sweet Sweet! What was the comp ratio of the motor while supercharged? What is the h.g. plan now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo325ii View Post
    Sweet Sweet Sweet! What was the comp ratio of the motor while supercharged? What is the h.g. plan now?
    Looks like it was between 9:1 and 9.3:1.

    I am going to have it resurfaced for an MLS and then o ring the block once i get the tool..

    Going to drop the compression down to around 8.5:1, so it looks like the .120 MLS spacer will do me about right. Maybe .140 if they have to take much off the head surface.
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    Subscribed! Love threads like this! Cant wait to see finished product!

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    i run 9.5-1 on all my motors, the setup you already got if A-OKAY! Dropping cr lower will just make less power per/psi and spool slower, forget the thick MLS with forged pistons, you dont really want to do that. Also, look at the CES Cutring headgasket and dont use a spacer with it

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Colby Colbs View Post
    i run 9.5-1 on all my motors, the setup you already got if A-OKAY! Dropping cr lower will just make less power per/psi and spool slower, forget the thick MLS with forged pistons, you dont really want to do that. Also, look at the CES Cutring headgasket and dont use a spacer with it
    Well, would you look at that.

    I keep reading about the best combo for head sealing and trying to put something together that isn't going to pop coolant into my oil and cook my turbo or blow coolant all over the place at 25 psi.

    So, it is either CES cutring for $450 or a stock gasket for $100 plus doing the O ring job.

    Lots of confusion in my head. DCVEEE was going to ship me the o ring tool tomorrow or whenever he gets it back, but if i dont need it, i shouldnt waste his time.....

    Some funny stuff / history

    for the last car - turbo vr6









    and a little of this car








    I am excited for summer.
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    So, I didn't take many pictures this weekend, but got a lot done.

    Tony helped out on the engine bay, and a lot of it is ready for primer. excited for that. a bit more sanding and such to get done this week.





    Got the faces of the wheels blasted and ready for primer, capped the bolt holes so they dont get primer build up inside of them.





    The barrels and caps arrived this morning. Just ordered the head gasket and top end gaskets and stuff.

    Coming along. Getting excited.

    Faces are primed. Need to be sanded and then the paint will be mixed and laid on my the hands of Tony. : )

    Also have the wider barrels on the 2 rear wheels here. 18x8 and 18x9.5



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    update

    Block. waiting for action. surface cleaned and mostly honed.


    test fitting the tool.


    greasing the cylinder walls. coolant and oil journals taped.


    Setting the adjustments for the tool. Have to measure the diameter to cut for the grooves and the depth.

    Since it is an S52, I did "figure 8" o rings. I used .040 copper wire, protruding .010 from the deck, so I had to cut a groove .030 deep for the wire to sit in, which intersected between the cylinders on the "bridges".



    measuring the depth. In order to do this. I used a caliper to measure the actual thickness of the wire. it was actually 0.040. so, i cut 4 small pieces and set them under the rollers/guides for the tool so the blade was 0.040 off of the deck. i then adjusted the blade so that it was .010 off of the deck. once the wire is removed from under the rollers, it makes it so it is adjusted to cut 0.030 depth grooves.



    ready to go



    cutting



    cutting



    got some grooves cut. have to work your way down the line and not cut each all the way down all at once so that you dont have bumps that the tool gets hung up on. good call matt and mike!



    woops, got this in the mail today.



    keep it greased up real good to catch the metal shavings. The rollers on the tool are magnetic, so they also catch some but you need to constantly catch them and collect them. Mike was THE MAN with this. following the tool with a megnetic grabber.





    and then you can start to fit the wire. you need to sharpen the edges to make it so the wire fits together at the angles. here are some random pics.











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