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    Press-in urethane control arm to sway bar bushings

    press-in urethane control arm bushings for late style suspension (will fit cars manufactured from 11/1978 and newer). Shore 94 A urethane with a 4130 steel sleeve.

    Many of you have a previous design design of mine, functionally is just as good, these just make the install process tons easier & I don't have to have your arms to cast the bushings into anymore, which will make it much more convenient for most.


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    whats if you did the swaybar and the inner control arm mount bushings? sell the both as a package? Id be interested for around 125+shipping for both???

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    Mold must be so much easier than the machined ones I made. Looking good.


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    yeah Nick, you were definitely on the right track with yours, mine are probably very similar, but casting vs machining is much easier, but there is still a high expense in developing the reusable molds.

    Regarding a package, let me think about that & get back to you. I hope to eventually have a complete package of all e21 suspension bushings and will be offering something like that for everything in the future.
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    Looks good. Money sent.

    Is it difficult to remove the existing bushings from a set of new control arms? Do they just press out?

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    I was fortunate enough to get the very first set of these bushings from Jesse. They look great and I can't wait to install them on the car. Will let you guys know what differences I feel. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdonn View Post
    Looks good. Money sent.

    Is it difficult to remove the existing bushings from a set of new control arms? Do they just press out?
    No, it's not bad. Yes, they just press out. I have a press, but honestly, when I remove them, I just use a 1-1/8" socket and a large mallet to remove the OEM bushings. Set the socket in place, hold the control arm by the subframe side & give it a couple of good whacks over a bucket & they pop right out.
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    Well if you had the two for the LCA Id be interested soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by E21fun View Post
    Well if you had the two for the LCA Id be interested soon
    That's what these are, except there is no UCA on an e21, so you can just call it the CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester323 View Post

    ……...there is no UCA on an e21, so you can just call it the CA.
    quite true, but it's still called a lower control arm. it's also commonly referred to as a wishbone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom D View Post
    quite true, but it's still called a lower control arm. it's also commonly referred to as a wishbone.
    It connects the framebone to the steerbone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom D View Post
    quite true, but it's still called a lower control arm. it's also commonly referred to as a wishbone.
    Fair enough, I've just only seen it referred to as the control arm, and yes, frequently as the wishbone. Lower control arm terminology just started reminding me of my Jeep days.

    Quote Originally Posted by pommeree View Post
    It connects the framebone to the steerbone.
    The steerbone connects to the wheelbone.
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    4130 steel sleeve that you use looks a little short ?
    Let's see the photo that sleeve ends.
    Why does it NOT go all the way thought the bushing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimjim69 View Post
    4130 steel sleeve that you use looks a little short ?
    Let's see the photo that sleeve ends.
    Why does it NOT go all the way thought the [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]urethane[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]control [COLOR=blue !important]arm[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] bushing?


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    I leave a small lip at the end of each side of the bushing that keeps the sleeve in place and prevents metal-to-metal contact of the sleeve and the washers that sandwich it all together. You can kind of see the lip in this pic.



    The sleeve does go all the way through, and is the same length as the width of the control arm socket. In the first pic, the sleeve is inserted into the bushing by nearly 19mm, and only the upper half of the sleeve is visible. I am casting another pair right now, if you would like to see additional photos once it is complete, I would be happy to oblige.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester323 View Post
    That's what these are, except there is no UCA on an e21, so you can just call it the CA.
    You mean you have both bushings for the Sway bar mount part of the control arm and the Subframe mount of the control arm?


    CA = California =p

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    Lightbulb I have the e21 page For IE

    Quote Originally Posted by Jester323 View Post
    I leave a small lip at the end of each side of the bushing that keeps the sleeve in place and prevents metal-to-metal contact of the sleeve and the washers that sandwich it all together. You can kind of see the lip in this pic.



    The sleeve does go all the way through, and is the same length as the width of the control arm socket. In the first pic, the sleeve is inserted into the bushing by nearly 19mm, and only the upper half of the sleeve is visible. I am casting another pair right now, if you would like to see additional photos once it is complete, I would be happy to oblige.
    I like what you done with your parts !!!

    Im working with Jeff Ireland to me
    show details 8:56 AM (2 hours ago)

    I agree is a nice product but probably will not be a huge seller. Nice product for the portfolio is show quality.


    Jeff


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    I have the e21 page For IE Update SOON !!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by E21fun View Post
    You mean you have both bushings for the Sway bar mount part of the control arm and the Subframe mount of the control arm?


    CA = California =p
    Oh, I see what you mean now. No, I do not have bushings for the subframe side of the control arm. These are such a small bushing, and they are solid rubber, I have always thought them to be acceptable in OEM form with real need to change them.

    I did just go press the inner bushing out of an old pair of arms I had laying around. These will be easy enough, I just don't know that there is really a need.
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    okk well im about to go install your alpina bar and rack bushings... wish me luck lol

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    Well, one of my next projects is making a mold for urethane trailing arm bushings, and it just so happens that they use the same sized sleeve as the inner control arm bushing... I just ordered materials.

    GL on those rack bushing, not a fun project to install, but you will be glad when they are in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester323 View Post
    GL on those rack bushing, not a fun project to install, but you will be glad when they are in.
    No lie it wasnt that bad! Im gonna tell the details on the recent thread about the rack bushings

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    hey jesse any chance of making these bushings for the early models?

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    eventually. I think Joe has some brand new control arms that he's supposed to be sending me to borrow for mock ups. It's all on hold until I get my hands on some. One of these days, I promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester323 View Post
    eventually. I think Joe has some brand new control arms that he's supposed to be sending me to borrow for mock ups. It's all on hold until I get my hands on some. One of these days, I promise.
    Yes Jester I have the old style, and Will send you mine.
    I have been too busy right now to do it...as I am getting ready to swap engines...I will try to send it to you next week.

    Do you need both sides? Or will one control arm work? Cause they are heavy....
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