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    BavLove's TRM stage 2 w/Mls build thread




    Today's production: head off, cams out. Tomorrow morning get it pressure tested and resurfaced.
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    Awesome man. I look foward to the install pics.
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    how are you going to prep the block?
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    Thanks GG. Fasterthnu, similar to the way Sniz did his but without the figure 8 o-rings

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    Congrats on your TheRM choice.

    Is it done yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    ...similar to the way Sniz did his but without the figure 8 o-rings
    Where have I been? Astral projecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    similar to the way Sniz did his but without the figure 8 o-rings
    Did you ask TheRM how they might snug the head to block?

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    Wow, you are already cranking away at it. :
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    can't wait for the kit to get here to get started the install!

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    Quote Originally Posted by highboostingm3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by milKt View Post
    Did you ask TheRM how they might snug the head to block?
    Ya, i know I really was thinking about doing it but matt @ TRM kind of hinted that I should not. But the more I look at it, the more it makes sense. I was running a stock elring gasket with the undercut arps running just over 12lbs. Of boost supercharged withiout issues. I used the 32 ft. Lbs. then 90 90. Held up for 5k miles before pulled my head off yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoostedBmwM3 View Post
    Wow, you are already cranking away at it. :
    Thanks man.
    Quote Originally Posted by tacoma330ci View Post
    can't wait for the kit to get here to get started the install!
    Yup should be ready to rock out soon. Head will be done wed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    Ya, i know I really was thinking about doing it but matt @ TRM kind of hinted that I should not. But the more I look at it, the more it makes sense. I was running a stock elring gasket with the undercut arps running just over 12lbs. Of boost supercharged withiout issues. I used the 32 ft. Lbs. then 90 90. Held up for 5k miles before pulled my head off yesterday.
    Matt hinted that you should not do what?
    Confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    Ya, i know I really was thinking about doing it but matt @ TRM kind of hinted that I should not. But the more I look at it, the more it makes sense. I was running a stock elring gasket with the undercut arps running just over 12lbs. Of boost supercharged withiout issues. I used the 32 ft. Lbs. then 90 90. Held up for 5k miles before pulled my head off yesterday.


    Thanks man.

    Yup should be ready to rock out soon. Head will be done wed. Even if the kit came Monday, I really can't do much without the head except for mock up the intercooler.
    Did Matt tell you he has tested the copper o-rings with MLS gasket and he has witnessed failure as a direct result?

    Also...you are comparing a centrifugal supercharger at 12psi to a turbo you will be running at 16+psi that reaches full boost probably by 4,000rpm or earlier. The centrifugal supercharger doesn't make full boost unless you are at redline which isn't often one even goes there and it's for an instant. Also, you are comparing your stock headgasket (which seals the best out of all) to a MLS head gasket (which needs head/block mirror finish and perfectly flat along with the right shlackle in the right places and an act of God.)
    Where have I been? Astral projecting.

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    Whoa whoa whoa. Take it easy please. Cam I understand how a supercharger works and a how turbocharger works, which is why I am going turbo. I decided myself against doing the figure 8 o-ring job on my S50 not Matt. I am not saying anything more in depth about who said what. It's not my style. I am going on my third time within the year pulling the head off. I am going to use some Indian Head Sellac gasket compound on both sides of the .140 MLS. just to prolong the gasket sealing... hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa. Take it easy please. Cam I understand how a supercharger works and a how turbocharger works, which is why I am going turbo. I decided myself against doing the figure 8 o-ring job on my S50 not Matt. I am not saying anything more in depth about who said what. It's not my style. I am going on my third time within the year pulling the head off. I am going to use some Indian Head Sellac gasket compound on both sides of the .140 MLS. just to prolong the gasket sealing... hopefully.
    OK sweet. Fair enough. Hope for the best man so you never have to take off the head again (until the day comes when you build the motor for MOPOWA ).

    Looking forward to more pictures of the build!
    Where have I been? Astral projecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highboostingm3 View Post
    OK sweet. Fair enough. Hope for the best man so you never have to take off the head again (until the day comes when you build the motor for MOPOWA ).

    Looking forward to more pictures of the build!
    Yessir... I am sure it won't take long before I get the itch for MOARR! I told Matt leave me some room in the build to upgrade cause I am gonna.

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    Looks familiar, I was just there! Now get some Q-tips and start cleaning all the oil and stuff out of the holes for the ARP head studs. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanksbeamen View Post
    Looks familiar, I was just there! Now get some Q-tips and start cleaning all the oil and stuff out of the holes for the ARP head studs. Keep up the good work.
    thanks for the helpful tip, that will work good.

    Alright I talked myself into it. Anybody have the s50/s52 O-ring tool willing to rent out?
    Last edited by BavarianLove; 10-24-2010 at 10:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianLove View Post
    thanks for the helpful tip, that will work good.

    Alright I talked myself into it. Anybody have the s50/s52 O-ring tool willing to rent out?
    Nice!

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    Man don't use Indian head shellac on those surfaces. That stuff was NOT designed for MLS use. I wouldn't even use on a stock type head gasket. The only place on that engine that should see a shellac type gasket maker is the core plugs(homeowners call them "freeze plugs"...LOL)

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    Thanks Don for helpful information. I am planning on o-ringing the block. Does anybody have one to rent?

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    Don,
    hate to hint at a new use for it,
    but a new record holder here uses the Shellac Permatex on his oring'd head and gasket.



    After a season of 20+ psi?
    No leaks?

    djborya - Boris is killing it with the Indian head

    Is he doing something wrong ?
    Or right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milKt View Post
    Don,
    hate to hint at a new use for it,
    but a new record holder here uses the Shellac Permatex on his oring'd head and gasket.



    After a season of 20+ psi?
    No leaks?

    djborya - Boris is killing it with the Indian head

    Is he doing something wrong ?
    Or right?
    I can promise you, their success has zip to do with Permatex Shellac. They are prolly having success because they built their engine's properly and used correct fasteners/techiques. I have stock Elrings going 25psi.

    Don says, "There isn't ANY glue, goo, or poo that'll seal a combustion chamber". Take it to the bank daddy

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    What about the oil and coolant ports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milKt View Post
    What about the oil and coolant ports.

    JB?
    LOL!! JBWeld has it's place.....and that's in it's tube!! Seriously, oil and coolant ports will seal with basic steel/composition type gaskets IF, IF, IF the head isn't lifting/fire ring portion of the gasket isn't failing and allowing the combustion gases to escape in the first place.

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