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    HELP! ASC ABS Problem E39 523i

    Wondering if someone can help!

    Got the dreaded ASC + ABS lights, car drives fine, brakes fine although no ABS. Swapped out both front sensors with ones from a scrapper. Still had lights. Used one of the spares to connect to the rear sensors to test those. When connected to rear right the lights went out. Bought new rear sensor, fitted it (after a real strruggle as the old one snapped) lights went off. Thought I'd cracked it and had a brief moment patting myself on the back. Set off driving and I had little/no brakes. It feels like you're braking on an ice rink I get the constant ABS judder & noise you'd expect driving on solid ice, after about 1/2 mile the ABS + ASC light come back on. Never been so pleased to see them! If I restart the car the same thing happens. No brakes for about 1/2 mile then fine.

    Do I

    a. Buy two new front sensors and a rear, fit them and cross my fingers?
    b. Buy a new ABS module from a scrapper
    c. Send it to a garage and swallow the bill?

    Question. If I swap ABS module, will the ABS work? I know I need to get it rewritten to my car.

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    option D.



    have the ABS codes read before replacing anything - hindsight is always 20/20.

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    Think its worth picking up two sensors from a scrap yard for £10 each first?

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    I wouldn't drive the car until you resolve the issue.
    Why are my Traction Control (ASC/DSC) and Anti-Lock Brake (ABS) lights illuminated?
    Quote Originally Posted by bluebee;
    Here is my attempt at combining information for our ABS DIY repair writeup in a single post:
    Credit: Extensive leverage from other sources; as new information comes in, I will update this post as long as it will let me.
    Future: Maybe someone can put a copy of this in the DIY section after it's properly reviewed for mistakes.

    CLASSIC ABS FAILURE SYMPTOMS:
    - Most of the time, the problem is the ABS module or one of the 4 wheel speed sensors (& sometimes the brake pressure sensor)
    - In my 2002 BMW E39 DSC, three orange (warning) cluster display lights lit, ABS, Brake, & DSC
    - The 3 warning lights reset when the ignition is turned off, only to repeatedly reappear within minutes of normal driving
    - The fault is often intermittent leading you to falsely believe you've resolved the problem (proper diagnosis is important)
    - Sometimes the fault only appears when the engine is hot; other times only at speeds over 40 mph
    - Carsoft may erroneously show a rear speed sensor failure; but just replacing the speed sensor may make no difference.
    - All the work is in correct diagnosis of the problem[/URL]; parts replacement is trivial (from 1 to six bolts in a few minutes)
    - Hence, this BMW E39 ABS 3-warning light DIY will concentrate on understanding and diagnosis of the problem


    FALSE ALARM SANITY CHECK:
    If you recently drove on ice, a dynamometer, or on another very slippery surface, the car may just think the system has malfunctioned.
    - Driving a few miles on a regular surface should fix the problem.
    - Another fix is to slowly turn the steering wheel from completely left to completely right, then back again.
    - The warning lights will reset whenever you turn the car off (but go back on if the fault persists)
    BMW DESIGN PROBLEM:
    - The E39 ABS module was mounted too close to engine heat causing solder cracks & fried electronics
    - The 4 wheel sensors and wires are exposed to the elements and to shocks/vibration
    - The 3 steering yaw sensors seem pretty well protected from both hazards but they may need recalibration[/URL]
    Note: Apparently newer-model BMWs moved the ABS module further away from engine heat (need confirmation)
    FLOW CHART OF RECOMMENDED ACTIONS:
    0) Watch, for a few days, speedo, odometer, tripmeter, cruise control, transmission, & ABS/BRAKE/DSC light activity
    1) If ABS/BRAKE/DSC constantly comes back, test the 4 wheel sensor circuits from the ABS module connector
    2) If any sensor circuit shows up as bad, test that specific sensor itself at that wheel (otherwise skip to step 5)
    3) If the wheel sensor still shows up as bad, first remove, clean, grease, and re-install that sensor
    4) If it still tests bad, then replace the sensor
    ...
    5) If the sensors are good, test the ABS circuit with the Carsoft or Peake tools (or just assume a bad ABS module)
    6) If the Carsoft or Peake tools indicate a different sensor, test & replace that sensor (e.g., pressure, yaw, acceleration, etc.)
    7) Otherwise, assume your ABS module is the culprit (some say get your ABS module rebuilt anyway as it's going to go eventually)
    ...
    8) If your ABS module is suspected, you have only the following 5 options:
    - OPTION 0: You can do nothing and just not have ABS or DSC (not a good choice for anyone on this message board)
    - OPTION 1: You can attempt a 3-part rebuild yourself (unfortunately we don't have enough information to help you yet)
    - OPTION 2: You can send your module out for a rebuild (about 1/3 to 1/2 can be rebuilt but you'll have no speedo in the interim)
    - OPTION 3: You can buy a rebuilt module (you'll have to add approximately $100 for a VIN recode at the dealer)
    - OPTION 4: You can buy a brand new module (you'll again have to pay for a BMW dealership recoding to your VIN)
    Note: Most people don't deal with testing the other 15 items; they just opt for sending their ABS module out to be rebuilt, which isn't necessarily a bad thing because generally it is the ABS and even if it isn't, some argue it's not a bad idea to rebuild even a working ABS.
    READ THE SHOP MANUAL: ( http://www.bentleypublishers.com/isb...179/index.html )
    - For DSC pinouts, see Volume II, page ELE-15 of ABS/DSC controle module (A65) (2 sensors in the front and 2 in the rear)
    - For ASC pinouts, see Volume II, page ELE-21 of ABS/ASC controle module (A52) (only 1 sensor in the front and 1 in the rear)
    - For ABS/ASC/DSC system operation, see Volume I, page 300-12 (it's not all that useful though)
    - For ABS/ASC/DSC system components, see Volume I, page 340-26 (again, not all that useful if you have this)
    READ BMW MANUALS:
    - Bosch DSC part 1[/URL], Bosch DSC part II[/URL] (kindly supplied[/URL] by Max_VQ[/URL])
    READ THESE ARTICLES:
    - http://www.meeknet.co.uk/E38/ABS/Index.htm
    - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=600452
    - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1230488
    - http://cparente.wordpress.com/2008/1...o-abs-problem/
    - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=363554
    - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...39#post4202239
    etc.
    UNDERSTAND DIGITAL MULTIMETER (DMM) TEST BASICS:
    - http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_3/chpt_3/2.html

    GATHER SEAT-OF-THE-PANTS DATA:
    - Note exactly which warning indicators are lit (e.g., ABS & BRAKE & DSC)
    - Note whether cruise control is working or not (sometimes implicates the passenger-side rear sensor)
    - Note whether the speedometer (hence odometer & tripmeter) is working (sometimes implicates the driver-side rear sensor)
    - Note "free play", "dead spots", & "centering" of the steering wheel (sometimes implicates steering column sensors)
    - Note if normal ABS pulsation (ABS working) or skidding (ABS not working) when hard braking on sandy shoulders at 15 mph
    - Note if violent shudder[/URL] (ABS working) or screech (ABS not working) when firm braking on top of speed bumps at 5mph
    Note: It's not always just the sensor when the speedometer is also out with the 3 lights (the key is diagnosis)
    ACKNOWLEDGE ALL POSSIBLE (20) & MOST LIKELY (2) CULPRITS:
    • 1 BOSCH DC III Control Module 83 Pin (combined with the hydraulic unit in my E39, DSC III Bosch 5.7) <==COMMON CULPRIT!
    • 1 Hydraulic Unit (combined with the control module in my E39, DSC III Bosch 5.7)
    • Hydraulic Unit contains: 2 pre-charge solenoid valves
    • Hydraulic Unit contains: 2 changeover solenoid valves
    • Hydraulic Unit contains: 4 intake solenoid valves
    • Hydraulic Unit contains: 4 outlet solenoid valves
    • Hydraulic Unit contains: 1 return pump
    • 2 Front Wheel Speed Sensors (Active Hall Effect) in the steering knuckles, secured with two 4 mm allen bolts <==COMMON CULPRIT!
    • 2 Rear Wheel Speed Sensors (Active Hall Effect) in the rear wheel bearing carriers, secured with one 4 mm allen bolt <==COMMON CULPRIT!
    • 1 Hydraulic Pressure Sensor (attached to the front-brake hydraulic unit in my E39, DSC III Bosch 5.7) <==MY PROBLEM!
    • 1 Steering Angle Sensor (located in the bottom of the steering column, near the flexible coupling)
    • 1 Rotation Rate, aka Yaw Sensor (combined with the lateral-acceleration sensor in my E39, DSC III Bosch 5.7)
    • 1 Lateral Acceleration Sensor (combined with the yaw sensor in my E39, DSC III Bosch 5.7)
    • 1 DSC Switch (located below the radio in the cockpit)
    • 1 Hand Brake Switch (located on the hand brake assembly)
    • 1 Brake Switch (located on the brake-pedal assembly)
    • 1 Pre-Charging Pump
    • 1 Charging Piston (750iL only)
    PHOTOGRAPH OF THE MOST LIKELY CULPRITS:

    GATHER DESIRED TOOLS:
    - Print this DIY out, bring a pencil to mark down your readings, and a drink
    - Digital multi meter (DMM) with a diode-test capability & long, very narrow probes
    - About six inches of 20 AWG stiff wire (to attach to your DMM probes and to the female ABS connector)
    - A small piece of white or yellow tape so that you can label the positive stiff wire (to avoid confusion with the negative probe)
    - T20 six-point Torx bit in a 1/4" socket with a 6" extension for removing the ABS control module
    - 4mm allen wrench for removing the front wheel sensors
    - Torque wrench (see torque tables below) for replacing components
    - For rear sensors, a 10 mm socket, 8 mm socket, flat-head screwdriver, and needle-nose pliers might be required to remove trim.
    - 1/4-inch wide 6-inch long standard flathead screwdriver for removing ABS harness connector clip
    - CRC cleaner (or equivalent brake cleaner)
    - Staburags NBU 12/K or equivalent grease (for speed sensors and connections in the housings)

    GATHER OPTIONAL TOOLS:
    - (maybe) 10mm socket for removing air filter box (easier access for some E39 models)
    - Carsoft 6.5 or Peake Research or equivalent OBDII diagnostic scanner
    - Oscilloscope (look for millivolt square waves coming from powered sensors as the wheel turns)
    - Note: Carsoft 6.5 can't perform encoding, activation, or steering adjustments.
    - Note: Bad ABS modules often report erroneous indications of a bad RR sensor in the OBD scanner reports
    - Note: You must use new bolts for the ABS Control Module (according to the Bentleys)

    PRICE OEM PARTS:
    - Repair kit, control unit DSC, $1,120 + $112 (~10% tax) = $1,232 (often colloquially referred to as the "ABS control unit")
    - Wheel sensors, front, $134 x 2 = $268 + $27 (~10% tax) = $295 total (some suggested EAC tuning for wheel sensors)
    - Wheel sensors rear, $201 x 2 = = $402 + $40 (~10% tax) = $442 total (some suggested AutoHauz for wheel sensors)
    - Front brake pressure sensor, $111 + 10% tax = ~$125 (measures 0-250bars of front-brake pressure, outputs 0-5 volts)
    - Steering angle (yaw) sensors (in the steering wheel column or under driver's seat) ~$250 each (almost never needed)
    - Hydro unit, DSC, $2,003 x 1 + $200 (~10% tax) = $2,013 (this "hydro unit" behind the ABS control unit is almost never at fault)
    Note: If you replace the ABS module, you'll also need a $100 dealership recoding to your VIN & steering angles calibrated (apparently)
    PRICE REBUILDING OF YOUR ABS MODULE:
    - Module Masters ($105) http://www.modulemaster.com/en/abs/ate_bmw_asc.php
    - BBA Remanufacturing (8 days, $225) http://www.bba-reman.com
    - Auto & Truck Electronics ($105) EBAY seller's ID ATE1234, lifetime warranty, free shipping, quick turnaround
    - Note: A rebuild of your ABS unit won't require VIN coding, activation, or steering angle calibration
    PRICE A REBUILT ABS MODULE FROM ANOTHER VEHICLE:
    - For a rebuilt part, most suggest oembimmerparts.com[/URL], one of our sponsors[/URL], at about $450 + $45 tax = $500
    - Note: A rebuilt ABS unit from another vehicle requires a $100 dealership VIN recoding effort
    QUESTION: What happens if you don't code the VIN & check steering angles ... (does the car blow up?)
    CONSIDER FIXING IT YOURSELF (we need much more details to make this option viable):
    - Open up the module & look for broken solder joints which can be sucked and resoldered (take pictures)
    - Add point-to-point wiring where needed (we need more information to make this actionable)
    - Replace diodes and any other weak parts with more robust parts (again, not very useful unless we know exactly what)
    - Post before and after pictures so each of us can learn from the rest
    CHECK BMW ERROR CODES:
    - Locate the OBDII port, by law, in the cockpit, within 3 feet of the driver (above the driver's left knee in American BMWs)
    - Hook up Carsoft[/URL] or Peake diagnostic tools[/URL] to the OBDII port to determine any error codes
    - Cross reference Carsoft error codes[/URL] with the list of Bosch 5.7 error codes listed bellow (kindly supplied by Max_VQ[/URL])
    Note: Some say this check is of dubious value because a bad ABS module may show up as a bad rear sensor[/URL]; always test the sensor itself!
    BMW ABS/ASC Bosch[/URL] 5.7 Table of error codes:[/URL]
    5 Right Rear Wheel Speed Sensor
    6 Right Front Wheel Speed Sensor
    7 Front Left Wheel Speed Sensor
    14 Solenoid Valve Relay (check fuses 17 & 33)
    15 Pressure Sensor/Pump Error
    21 Module Memory Failure - ABS/ASC module is faulty
    23 Incorrect Coding - ABS/ASC module is faulty
    24 Wrong Impulse
    30 Left Rear Wheel Speed Sensor
    31 Open Right Rear Wheel Speed Sensor
    32 Open Right Front Wheel Speed Sensor
    33 Open Left Front Wheel Speed Sensor
    50 Right Front Outlet Valve - ABS/ASC module is faulty
    51 Left Rear Outlet Valve - ABS/ASC module is faulty
    54 Left Front Inlet Valve - ABS/ASC module is faulty
    55 ASC Intake Valve - ABS/ASC module is faulty
    58 Gear Box Control Unit (CAN bus error)
    59 DMER1 (CAN bus error)
    61 Steering Angle Sensor Identification
    66 Speed Sensor Voltage Supply
    67 Intermittent Interference
    75 Engine Speed Fault from DME
    81 Pressure Sensor
    82 Open Yaw Rate Sensor
    86 ASC Cut-off Valve Rear Axle
    88 Precharge Pump
    89 Low Voltage
    90 Temporary System Deactivation
    94 DDE Fault/Yaw rate sensor
    97 Steering Angle Sensor
    10 Brake Light Switch
    108 SN Control
    112 Open CAN to Instrument Cluster
    114 Pressure Sensor Offset
    117 Brake Light Switch Failure
    118 DME Status-Internal Error
    REMOVE ABS-MODULE CONNECTOR:
    - Facing the engine, slide the plastic retaining clip to the right with a 1/4 inch flathead screwdriver.
    - It is a plastic retaining clip, so do be careful not to break it; it slides over about 1 1/4 inches or so.
    - Once the clip is fully to the right, lift the electrical connector up
    - Notice the female (blue) connector with 42 holes (and very tiny lettering)
    - DO NOT STICK YOUR TEST LEAD INTO THE SQUARE HOLES!
    (Only put test leads into the larger rectangular holes next to the square holes.)

    NOTE ABS-MODULE PINOUT: (notice the test lead holes)
    - Each wheel sensor circuit has a set of two wires in the ABS connector (pinout[/URL] kindly supplied by 540iman[/URL])
    - ABS-connector pins 13,29 = Left rear wheel sensor (also affects speedometer & odometer & tripmeter)
    - ABS-connector pins 30,31 = Right rear wheel sensor (also affects cruise control)
    - ABS-connector pins 28,12 = Left front wheel sensor (some say it also acts as a steering angle sensor[/URL])
    - ABS-connector pins 15,16 = Right front wheel sensor (tells gearbox electronics how fast you're going[/URL])
    Note: These pinouts are in the same order of the diode action of each sensor (do not reverse these numbers)
    Note: Don't confuse with the brake pad wear sensor, which is only located on the front left & rear right wheel & which uses a black connector.
    Note: ASC cars have only two sensors, one on the front right and the other on the rear left wheel.
    UNDERSTAND WHEEL SPEED SENSORS:
    Note: The wheel speed sensors are two-wire hall effect transducers which send a digital square wave signal with a low of .75 volts and a high of 2.5 volts to the DSC control unit. Each sensor receives a well-regulated 8 volt power supply from the control module through one wire. The ground path for the sensor is through the second wire back to the control module. The signal is generated by a pulse wheel affecting the voltage flow through the hall element in the sensor. The pulse wheel is integrated into the wheel bearing assembly, behind the seal. This protects the trigger wheel from foreign substances which may affect the wheel speed signal.

    TEST WHEEL SENSOR CIRCUIT FROM THE ABS CONNECTOR (also checks wiring circuit):
    OPTIONAL: Jack car up (so that all four wheels can be spun to test voltage & resistance fluctuations of the hall-effect sensors)
    - Turn the car off and remove the key from the ignition.
    - TEST 1: Switch the DMM into the diode test position
    - Wrap a stiff 20AWG wire onto the ends of your DMM probe for sticking into ABS-connector pins
    - Label the positive 20AWG wire with white tape so that you won't get confused as you switch back and forth
    - Stick the ends of the wire into the appropriate female holes of the ABS connector (13-29, 30-31, 28-12, 15-16)
    - In one direction, you should see 1.7 to 1.8 volts (note the pinouts mentioned are in order, positive to negative)
    - In the other direction, you should see OL or some other infinite reading (open circuit)
    - TEST 2: Switch the DMM into resistance checking mode (optional)
    - You should see around 3.3 Mega ohms in one direction & approximately twice that in the other direction (but some say more[/URL])
    - TEST 3: If desired spin the wheel at about 1 revolution per second[/URL], by hand (the resistance should fluctuate as the wheel spins[/URL])
    - TEST 4: Switch the DMM into millivolt mode (optional) & again spin the tire & wheel assembly by hand (test-lead polarity won't matter)
    - You should read between 1 and 5 mV when you spin the hub[/URL] (no voltage implicate the sensor or circuit)
    - OPTIONAL TESTS BELOW REQUIRE FLYING LEADS WITH THE IGNITION SYSTEM ABS SYSTEM CONNECTED & POWERED UP:
    - TEST 5: Swith the DMM into the 10v and attach flying leads to the sensors with the power on
    - You should see the voltage going to the sensor and the return signal[/URL]
    - Expect a baseline voltage of about +5 to +12 volts depending on the ABS system (does anyone know this value?)
    - Expect that baseline voltage to the sensor to change (by how much?) as you spin the wheels
    - TEST 6: Hook an oscilloscope with "flying leads" to the ABS sensors (notice that the ABS system must be powered)
    - You should see nice clean square waves generated as you hand spin the wheels[/URL] at about 1 revolution per second.
    Note: The oscilliscope can detect problems [/URL]that can't easily be found with a DMM (A scope pattern for a wheel speed sensor should show a classic sine wave alternating current pattern that changes both in frequency and amplitude with wheel speed. As the wheel is turned faster, signal frequency and amplitude should both increase. Damaged or missing teeth on the sensor ring will show up as flat spots or gaps in the sine wave pattern. A bent axle or hub will produce an undulating pattern that changes as the strength of the sensor signal changes with every revolution. If the scope pattern produced by the sensor is flattened (diminished amplitude) or is erratic, it usually indicates a weak signal caused by an excessively wide air gap between the tip of the sensor and its ring, or a buildup of metallic debris on the end of the sensor. A weak signal can also be caused by internal resistance in the sensor or its wiring circuit, or loose or corroded wiring connectors.)

    INTERPRET DIODE-TEST RESULTS:
    - If the DMM, in diode mode, reads infinity ("OL") in both directions, you've got a bad sensor or circuit
    - If the DMM, in resistance mode, reads much greater than 7Mohms, you've got a bad sensor or circuit
    - If all 4 sensors read OK, it's most likely the ABS control unit.
    - If you think you found two bad sensors, you probably messed up.
    - Rarely is the cause due to bad steering angle (yaw/lew) sensors
    - Rarely is the cause due to a bad hydro unit
    - The problem is almost always a wheel rotation sensor or the ABS control unit
    ACTUAL RESULTS ON MY 2002 E39 THIS MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND:

    DOUBLECHECK WHEEL SENSORS AT THE WHEEL:
    Note: You can run this test w/o removing the wheel but access to the sensor connector is easier with the wheels off the E39
    - If one or more sensor circuits test bad in any of the three tests above ... then ...
    - Locate the sensor blue connector in the rear of each front wheel well by turning the front wheels
    - Easiest to first locate the sensor (bolted on the wheel carrier near the hub) and trace its wire back to a black plastic hinged box housing
    - Open the locked hinged plastic rectangular black box with a small flathead screwdriver
    - Locate the blue wheel sensor connector (next to a black brake wear sensor connector)
    - Pull the blue wheel sensor connector out of the box and disconnect the two sides
    - Re-check the sensor there with the diode function of the DMM

    CHECK WHEEL SENSORS OFF THE VEHICLE:
    - If any sensor still checks bad, pull the sensor off the vehicle for a closer inspection
    - Chock wheels and jack E39 BMW and jack stand at the 4 jack pad locations
    - Remove 4mm allen head bolts to sensor retention screw (two retaining bolts for fronts, 1 bolt for the rears)
    - Pull wheel sensor out of hub assembly, straight up.
    - Clean with CRC electronic cleaner
    - Check with DMM diode-test meter as before
    - Grease with Staburags NBU 12/K or equivalent grease
    - Replace sensor back into hub assembly, snug tighten to 6 foot pounds
    - Replace rear wheel, tighten to 82 to 96 foot pounds
    Note: You might wish to swap sensors on the same axle when replacing so as to obtain further diagnostic information should an anomaly occur.
    Note: Here is a picture of a dirty and cleaned sensor (magnetic particle buildup[/URL])

    TEST BRAKE PRESSURE SENSOR (aka HYDRAULIC UNIT PRESSURE SENSOR):
    - This test procedure kindly suggested by Max_VQ:
    - Given 250 bar = 3,626 psi, and given 0-5 volts linear proportional output, 3,626 psi/ 5v = 725.2 psi/volt or 1.3 mV per psi.
    - With the ignition on, measure the voltage on the pressure sensor while someone is pressing hard on the brake pedal
    - My guess is that should create about 3,000 psi of force and should show around 4.13 volts.
    - At rest it should show very close to 0 volts
    Note: The front-brake pressure sensor provides a 0-5 volt linear voltage signal to the DSC III control module which is proportionate to how hard the driver is pressing on the brake pedal, from zero to 250 bars (3,626 psi), spanning (a) no braking, to (b) partial braking, and to (c) near-ABS-regulation state braking. This brake pressure sensor has three pins (a) power, (b) ground and (c) the 0-5 volt proportionate signal.
    Note: By way of comparison, the Corvette also has a brake pressure sensor to indicate how hard the brakes are being applied; it monitors pressure from 0 to 2000psi generating a corresponding signal of 0.20 volts to 4.80 volts[/URL].
    LOCATION OF FRONT-BRAKE PRESSURE SENSOR:
    • DSC III 5.3 (740i/iL and 540i) - The brake pressure sensor is located in the charge pump assembly.
    • DSC III 5.3 (750iL) - The sensor is located on the charge piston unit.
    • DSC III 5.7 (ALL) - The sensor is located on the hydraulic unit on my 2002 E39.

    TEST ROTATION RATE & LATERAL ACCELERATION SENSOR:
    - We do not yet have a test for this sensor; a description of operation is all we have at the moment (please suggest a test procedure so all benefit)
    - On Bosch DSC III (Bosch 5.7) the Rotation Rate sensor (yaw) and the Lateral Acceleration sensor have been combined into one unit located under the drivers seat under the carpet
    - The degree of rotation rate (yaw) transducer outputs a reference signal of 2.5 volts and a linear voltage of 0.7 to 4.3 volts
    - The lateral acceleration output signal should be 1.7 volts while the car is sitting still on a flat surface corresponding to 0 G side forces.
    - The lateral acceleration transducer outputs a linear voltage of 0.5 to 4.5 volts corresponding to a G-Force range of -1.5 to +3.5 G side forces depending on the motion of a fixed capacitor plate relative to a floating capacitor plate.

    TEST STEERING ANGLE SENSOR:
    - We don't yet know how to test the steering-angle sensor (please advise)
    Note: The steering angle sensor, mounted at the bottom of the steering column near the flexible coupling, utilizes two potentiometers to determine the steering angle and the rate of steering angle change, which are are the two raw signals the CAN bus microprocessor utilizes to create the steering angle signal for broadcast over the CAN bus. The DSC III logic compares the stored plausibility of the steering angle sensor against other DSC III inputs (front wheel speeds, rotation rate and lateral acceleration sensors).
    STEERING ANGLE SENSOR:


    REMOVE ABS MODULE:
    - Remove the six T20 Torx screws holding the ABS module to the hydro unit
    - Pull the ABS module straight out towards the passenger side headlight.
    - Cover the hydro unit with aluminum foil to protect it from the elements
    - You can drive the car but you won't have a speedometer or odometer
    - Use a portable GPS unit with a speed display as your temporary speedometer
    - You may not have cruise control (need to test this)
    - Of course, you won't have ABS either but you didn't have that anyway

    HINTS TO HELP OTHERS:
    - Consider taking apart your ABS module and posting before rebuild and after rebuild pictures
    - Consider paying rebuilders the extra $10 to return ABS modules that failed[/URL] (so you can take it apart & post pictures)
    - Consider selling your old module to the rebuilders if you buy a new or rebuilt ABS module from another vehicle
    - A portable GPS unit doubles as a speedometer in the interim while your ABS module is being rebuilt
    REINSTALL ABS MODULE:
    - Note: There is a gasket attached to the new unit.
    - Carefully place the new module over the control actuators.
    - Loosely replace the six new T20 Torx screws included with the new module.
    - Tighten snug tight, and then a little more to seat the gasket.
    - Reposition the ABS electrical connector
    - Press down on the ABS connector while pushing the retaining clip to the left
    - Reassemble the Air Filter box & MAF (if it was disassembled for Torx access).

    INITIALIZE ABS MODULES:
    - Note: This step is only necessary if you installed an ABS module that wasn't originally in the car in the first place
    - Take the E39 to an Indy to encode the VIN (I'm not sure what happens if you don't do this)
    - Take the E39 to an Indy to check and adjust the steering angle (I'm not sure why)
    - Some say the steering angle sensor may have to be recalibrated when you put on a remanufactured or new ABS module.
    TORQUE TABLE:
    - 4mm wheel sensor bolts (two each for the front sensors, 1 each for the rear sensors) = 6 foot pounds
    - Combination lateral acceleration/rotational rate sensor (under driver seat) = 6 foot pounds
    - DSC bolts to the hydraulic unit (new bolts only) = 26 inch pounds
    - Hydraulic unit to body = 6 foot pounds
    - Hydraulic unit mounting bracket = 6 foot pounds
    - Brake lines to hydraulic unit = 13 foot pounds
    - Wheel lug nuts = 82 to 96 foot pounds
    DIAGRAM OF THE 2002 E39 DSC III BOSCH 5.7 SYSTEM:

    USE THIS CHART TO DETERMINE WHICH ABS SYSTEM YOU HAVE:

    Note: This ABS repair thread was compiled from scores of sources; special credit goes to many people, especially 540iman[/URL], BlackBMWs[/URL], Max_VQ[/URL], Edgy36-39[/URL], and others.
    Last edited by jamesdc4; 02-08-2010 at 12:24 PM.

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    nope. how much is your time worth?

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    Brake pressure sensor?

    Anyone know if the symptoms of constant abs action like I'm driving on ice could be caused by failure of the thin cream coloured sensor wire on the rear right? Thik I snagged it quite badly. I presume this is a brake pressure sensor or brake wear sensor.

    PS thanks for all that info Jamesdc4. I'll trawl through it today

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    Had the same issue

    I had a similar problem after having the Xmas tree lights come up on the instrument cluster and replacing the right rear sensor and having the ABS pulsing. I had trouble getting the old sensor out and ended up having to literally pry it out and in doing so may have had fragments drop down into the bearing housing. After replacing the sensor I had pulsing of the ABS below 23 mph, but still had the xmas lights. So I had the ABS module rebuilt...lights disappeared but still had the pulsing. Finally went to my indy and he checked the ABS sensors and saw a slight irregularity with the right rear. Needless to say his suggestion was to take out the bearing, replace it and clean things out. This resolved the problem.

    So my suggestion is to have the ABS sensors checked by someone who has the right equipment. Like me you may be had pieces drop down into the bearing housing (for lack of a better term).

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    Quote Originally Posted by camoore View Post
    James,
    That thread you posted is awesome. It helped me troubleshoot my ABS nightmare. Is that in our DIY?
    It's a post by bluebee on Bimmerfest. I've added a link to the post in the E39 DIY Quick Link list.
    Quote Originally Posted by iggy0161 View Post
    PS thanks for all that info Jamesdc4. I'll trawl through it today
    You're welcome and good luck.
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    Fragments in the bearing

    That sounds like it could be it. I have no lights on at all but constant ABS pulsing for about 5 mins of driving. Then ABS cuts off and lights come back on, but at least I'm able to stop then!

    I had to literally butcher the old rear sensor out of the hub. First I tried the recommendation of sinking a screw into it and pulling it out. Then I tried drilling it out which made a bit of a mess in the hole, but still left it in. In the end I found a thin chisel. Gave it a couple of firm whacks twisted it and what was left of the old sensor came out (not much left of it though!)

    Logic was telling me that the ABS was pulsing because the car thought a wheel wasn't rotating. I thought that maybe some of the metal shavings from my drilling were stuck in the bearing casing, magnetising to the sensor and telling the car the wheel was stationary.

    But I removed the sensor and there was only a tiny bit of metal attached.

    I'll reconnect it all and give it another go

    My Indy garage has just called me back. He's 100% positive I've damaged my bearing whilst chiselling the sensor out. £160 for a new fitted bearing.

    Not too shabby
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    abs and asc falt e39 528i

    bmw e39 2.8 1996 it started to come on and of for a while then went of for months now i have the lights on all the time my speedo was working fine but now i was testing the wheel sensors and found the wires a bit broken now my speedo dont work but i think thats the sensor dose any body no were i can send my abs unit to get repaired in spain as i live in gibraltar

    were can i buy 4 new sensors but cheap for bmw e39 528i 1996
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    Please, Help! ABS+ASC+SPEEDO out.

    Dear BMW Gurus!

    After the rear disks change at the BMW dealer on my 528 touring 2000, I've started seeing intermittently the error code about the left rear sensor.
    INPA reads the error saying that the speed is inconsistent and it is 2.75 Km/h. However, when the error just comes up and the vehicle is stationary, only I can see via INPA that all the wheels are turning at the 2 Km/h rate.
    What I have done so far:
    - Impedance test via the ASC5.7 socket and the sensor socket when unplugged. All four sensors read 115/120 KOhm when being tested at 10uA.
    - Diode test via ASC5.7 and the sensor socket when unplugged. All four sensors read 1.8V of voltage drop at 1 mA in one direction, no conduction in the opposite direction.
    - Replaced the rear left sensor by the one bought on Ebay (for $18 only) - same error.
    - Installed back the removed original OEM sensor and swapped left and right rear sensors - same error - rear left sensor.
    Usually lights come up only when I drive to complete stop or I pull the handbrake when stopped or just idling at the traffic light, also usually it comes when the car is hot. It is enough to kill the motor, remove ignition key, wait 1 min and restart the car. It could be gone on the 1-st or the second attempt.

    Before failing and replacing the ASC unit, do you think, that actually the guys at the Stealer could damage or not properly install the disks, therefore the signal is marginal. Also the haven't clipped the connectors in the plastic boxes, so they were dangling with the suspension.

    I want to perform the test with the oscilloscope by turning the wheel. The diagram in the post above shows the voltage source of 8 Volts and the current measurement shunt resistor (I'll try with 1K to start with). This is how I'll try to test it from the ASC socket.

    Some people say, that I will get the square pulses, some - perfect sinus out of the sensor. Does anyone have an oscillogram of what should I expect? What is the amplitude of the pulses and what is the slew rate?

    Could you, please, help?

    Also I suspect the wiring, which could be the problem.
    Many thanks,

    Maxim

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    Abs

    Get your bearing checked out

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    On the key definition car bmw a39 Model 2001

    Please help

    I have a problem in the brake Andm Ados brake Icoam rad on my feet Bagoh please help
    Last edited by haros; 02-08-2013 at 02:01 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by haros View Post
    On the key definition car bmw a39 Model 2001

    Please help

    I have a problem in the brake Andm Ados brake Icoam rad on my feet Bagoh please help
    ???

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    The suggestion to not drive the car is overkill IMO. :

    Just drive as you would any old school car without all the fancy antilock, stability control systems and you should be fine. I drove mine around for a whole week without the DSC/ABS module and didn't have a single incident (minus a couple fishtails ) so enjoy your car while you troubleshoot. Just remember to NOT "drive it like you stole it"...

    "When the power of Love overcomes the Love of power, the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix

    EDIT: I just noticed that this was from WAY back in 2010...still valid info though.
    Last edited by ViolinARC; 02-08-2013 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12CoolDude View Post
    The suggestion to not drive the car is overkill IMO. :

    I drove mine around for a whole week without the DSC/ABS module and didn't have a single incident (minus a couple fishtails ) so enjoy your car while you troubleshoot. Just remember to "drive it like you stole it"...
    I fixed that for you. When the ABS module fails it's your cars way of telling it wants to do some fishtailing.

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    When I first started driving the 5'er, I used to disable the DSC on purpose until I discovered what it could do (keep me from burning up my right rear tire).

    "When the power of Love overcomes the Love of power, the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix

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    I have a 2000 528i..I had ASC , ABS and Brake lights and no speedo..After getting my ABS Module repaired and replacing all 4 wheel sensors. My Speeo works and the brake light is off..but the ABS and ASC lights are still on..How do I reset it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mode67 View Post
    I have a 2000 528i..I had ASC , ABS and Brake lights and no speedo..After getting my ABS Module repaired and replacing all 4 wheel sensors. My Speeo works and the brake light is off..but the ABS and ASC lights are still on..How do I reset it
    Your speedo gets its signal from the LR Wheel speed sensor so that's fixed. You need to get your ABS fault codes read to find out what else is wrong. (ABS is a BMW propriety system and cannot be read by an OBDII only scanner.) That assumes whoever repaired your module, did a good job.

    No need to reset. The ABS module does a self check every time you turn on the ignition. If everything is OK, the lights will come on and go off when you start the car.
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