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#1
11-18-2009, 05:04 PM
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Symptoms of the Antanea Ring Going out?
The little Antanea ring in the column that recognizes the key and allows the car start. What are the symptoms of failure and wheres a DIY for it. Any help would be great Thanks!
 Mike
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1995 BMW 325I (My daily) Hellrot Red with Black interor. Lowered with Bavauto springs, M3 Exhaust,Fan delete Mod, and 17" wheels off a 2003 325I sport. 1995 BMW M3 Avus Blau with Dove Interior. Eibach prokit, Hartge 19" Classics, 8000k HID's for the Low Beams and for the Fogs as well, JTD Underpanel Block is bored .25 over with Ross Racing pistons, Turner Motorsport Chip 24# injectors, Euro HFM, Dinan Throttle Body, Fan Delete Mod, Cold Air intake, UUC Oil Filter Lid, UUC Motor Mounts, Race Tranny mounts and Rear Subframe Bushings,UUC Short Shifter, Powerflex, RTAB bushings and FCAB. Cyberdyne Digital gauges for Water Temp, Oil Temp and Pressure and Borla Exhaust. Ac Schnitzer Pedals, Shift Knob and E-brake handle. 
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#2
11-18-2009, 05:08 PM
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umm I think you are in the wrong forum, this it an E39 forum, not e36 forum....
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11-18-2009, 05:08 PM
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My dad said that he went out to try and move my car last week and he put the key in and it locked up. He described it as when his jeep's wheel locks and you need to shake the wheel to turn the key. This intermittent problem might be a symptom. I would also love a DIY if this is the case.
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11-18-2009, 05:10 PM
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im helping a friend with a 00 525i sometimes when he turns the key nothing happens. then you try a few times and it starts and it doesn't sound like the starter either he was told it was the Antanea ring in the column by a shop
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1995 BMW 325I (My daily) Hellrot Red with Black interor. Lowered with Bavauto springs, M3 Exhaust,Fan delete Mod, and 17" wheels off a 2003 325I sport. 1995 BMW M3 Avus Blau with Dove Interior. Eibach prokit, Hartge 19" Classics, 8000k HID's for the Low Beams and for the Fogs as well, JTD Underpanel Block is bored .25 over with Ross Racing pistons, Turner Motorsport Chip 24# injectors, Euro HFM, Dinan Throttle Body, Fan Delete Mod, Cold Air intake, UUC Oil Filter Lid, UUC Motor Mounts, Race Tranny mounts and Rear Subframe Bushings,UUC Short Shifter, Powerflex, RTAB bushings and FCAB. Cyberdyne Digital gauges for Water Temp, Oil Temp and Pressure and Borla Exhaust. Ac Schnitzer Pedals, Shift Knob and E-brake handle.
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11-18-2009, 05:14 PM
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I know there was a transistor in the key of my A6...if there's one in the BMW key it might be phasing out if the battery in the key is dying? Just a guess tho.
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11-18-2009, 05:40 PM
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I'm not saying that the ring antenna is the culprit...but here some info about it...and where it's located in the steering column. The ring antenna is #7 in the diagram. BTW...if it is a 2000 5 series...its a 528i...in order to be a 525i..it would need to be an 01...but either way...they both use the same ring antenna.
And if your e39 was built AFTER 3/97...it does NOT have a transmitter receiver...that component was eliminated and its function was incorporated into the EWS Control Module: 
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99 540iT (Orient Blue) 4/99 mfg date <<~>> 97 740iL (Arctic Silver) 3/97 mfg date %206-7-09%20E39%20E38.jpg) 
Last edited by Qsilver7; 11-18-2009 at 06:16 PM..
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11-18-2009, 05:54 PM
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hmm so being a 2000 it won't have that ring? Its all integraded in the EWS Module correct
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1995 BMW 325I (My daily) Hellrot Red with Black interor. Lowered with Bavauto springs, M3 Exhaust,Fan delete Mod, and 17" wheels off a 2003 325I sport. 1995 BMW M3 Avus Blau with Dove Interior. Eibach prokit, Hartge 19" Classics, 8000k HID's for the Low Beams and for the Fogs as well, JTD Underpanel Block is bored .25 over with Ross Racing pistons, Turner Motorsport Chip 24# injectors, Euro HFM, Dinan Throttle Body, Fan Delete Mod, Cold Air intake, UUC Oil Filter Lid, UUC Motor Mounts, Race Tranny mounts and Rear Subframe Bushings,UUC Short Shifter, Powerflex, RTAB bushings and FCAB. Cyberdyne Digital gauges for Water Temp, Oil Temp and Pressure and Borla Exhaust. Ac Schnitzer Pedals, Shift Knob and E-brake handle.
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11-18-2009, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
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99 540iT (Orient Blue) 4/99 mfg date <<~>> 97 740iL (Arctic Silver) 3/97 mfg date
Last edited by Qsilver7; 11-18-2009 at 06:16 PM..
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11-18-2009, 06:17 PM
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AHH ok i see was doing 5 things at once sorry
 I will have to check it out. If it is that ring is it much of a PITA??
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Cars:
1995 BMW 325I (My daily) Hellrot Red with Black interor. Lowered with Bavauto springs, M3 Exhaust,Fan delete Mod, and 17" wheels off a 2003 325I sport. 1995 BMW M3 Avus Blau with Dove Interior. Eibach prokit, Hartge 19" Classics, 8000k HID's for the Low Beams and for the Fogs as well, JTD Underpanel Block is bored .25 over with Ross Racing pistons, Turner Motorsport Chip 24# injectors, Euro HFM, Dinan Throttle Body, Fan Delete Mod, Cold Air intake, UUC Oil Filter Lid, UUC Motor Mounts, Race Tranny mounts and Rear Subframe Bushings,UUC Short Shifter, Powerflex, RTAB bushings and FCAB. Cyberdyne Digital gauges for Water Temp, Oil Temp and Pressure and Borla Exhaust. Ac Schnitzer Pedals, Shift Knob and E-brake handle.
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11-18-2009, 06:41 PM
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I've never had to replace one (or even read of anyone replacing one)...but I have worked on the other side of the steering column replacing an ignition switch.
If replacing the ring antenna is anything like the ignition switch (#2 in the diagram)...it's a cakewalk. It just involved removing the screws on top and below the column to remove the "clamshell" around the column...which then exposes everything. 
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99 540iT (Orient Blue) 4/99 mfg date <<~>> 97 740iL (Arctic Silver) 3/97 mfg date
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11-18-2009, 10:03 PM
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hey I got an idea, Lets try the other key to make sure you dont have a key problem. I have never replace a bad ring antenna. I have replaced them due to customer not knowing what they are doing and break the wires.
I would say you have a bad ign switch b4 a ring antenna.
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11-19-2009, 10:38 AM
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I was going to try the keys he said they both seem to do it the same frequency. I will have to check it out. Thanks!
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Cars:
1995 BMW 325I (My daily) Hellrot Red with Black interor. Lowered with Bavauto springs, M3 Exhaust,Fan delete Mod, and 17" wheels off a 2003 325I sport. 1995 BMW M3 Avus Blau with Dove Interior. Eibach prokit, Hartge 19" Classics, 8000k HID's for the Low Beams and for the Fogs as well, JTD Underpanel Block is bored .25 over with Ross Racing pistons, Turner Motorsport Chip 24# injectors, Euro HFM, Dinan Throttle Body, Fan Delete Mod, Cold Air intake, UUC Oil Filter Lid, UUC Motor Mounts, Race Tranny mounts and Rear Subframe Bushings,UUC Short Shifter, Powerflex, RTAB bushings and FCAB. Cyberdyne Digital gauges for Water Temp, Oil Temp and Pressure and Borla Exhaust. Ac Schnitzer Pedals, Shift Knob and E-brake handle.
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