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    my engine fell out!

    actually no, it didn't, but i'm surprised it stayed in this long!

    last night me and my best friend were bored and we just bought a new floor jack earlier in the afternoon. so what better to spend a saturday night than to put your new jack to use and install some parts? i had some motor mounts that had been waiting to be installed for a month so we got to it.

    my engine had been just resting on the frame and it was horrifying.

    Did motor mounts last nights along with a new lower radiator hose



    Took the Passenger side out first... i thought it was bad...

    still useable?



    had to replace the cut lower radiator hose that has been rubbing on the belt for god knows how long just to get the engine high enough to get the new one in...


    got to the passenger side... and died laughing. this is what came out...



    there was so little left it was hard to take a comparisson photo...:

    the engine sits SO much higher now that its proper and you can hardly feel the engine now :



    you can see how much higher the fan sits against the radiator its amazing...

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    Jaysus!!
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    dang...

    gonna have to look at mine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by e24mpwr View Post
    dang...

    gonna have to look at mine...
    +1


    Could you give some more details to the procedure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRJKTGRMN View Post
    green coolant!

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    Great, another thing to check. Cool pics and quite a difference in height.
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    oh man

    I did the lower radiator hose without lifting, i wonder HOW much easier it would have been if I had raised the engine
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    You got your moneys worth on those mounts!
    Might have cured that pesky shake at idle also.
    I will always own a BMW.

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    hmmm maybe this is a sign for everybody to go look at theirs

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    My early 6-er had the passenger side in 2 pieces when I pulled it, as well.
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    Dunno about the e28 based cars, but it took me all of 30 minutes on my e12-based car to do the swap. Parts were cheap, too.
    Last edited by MadScience; 11-16-2009 at 07:01 PM. Reason: added picture
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    Holy Crap!! It's a wonder it was not spinning in the engine bay like a blender! Good save!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapis 635 Euro View Post
    +1


    Could you give some more details to the procedure?
    it was really easy actually. put the car up on jackstands, and once it was supported we unbolted the old ones. once those were out we raised the engine slightly one side at a time get them out, and then popped in the new ones.

    very easy procedure actually, didn't take much more than about 40 minutes. well worth the upgrade, the car feels MUCH better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit635csi View Post
    hmmm maybe this is a sign for everybody to go look at theirs
    Lol i was just thinking the same. I dont have a shake at idle but 20+ years on the same mounts???...
    Quote Originally Posted by JRanmann View Post
    My signifiant other IS an e24!


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    Somehow proves what others have said all along...considering the fluids that errode the rubber and how quickly it seems to evaporate into nothing...Recall my posting last month to the new six owner about his leaking fluids that was generally was met by a bit of wonderment on the part of those thinking how crazy can this guy (me) get...well?

    A wonderful posting PR showing just how much undetectible damage the fluids silently do until as you say...'my engine fell out!'...

    Somewhat jokingly but with a message that if this really happened while driving can you imagine the moments just a split seconds after the block actually let go and shoved it's way under the passenger floor ...what one's mind would be going through just attempting to come to grips with the noise, smell and grinding vibrations experienced just before the car sharply veers hard right and runs head on at speed into a telephone pole...erasing perhaps that disjointed set of memories permenently and for all time!

    Thanks!

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    hope this isn't a silly question but where is the best place to put the floor jack to raise the engine. I don't want a three inch hole in my oil pan that could be messy.
    Thanks
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    I put a block of wood between the jack and the oil pan. The oil pan is more than strong enough to support the weight of the engine.

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    Great work.

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    INDEED. GOOD WORK.

    I had mine replaced too. BIG Difference.

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    FYI, there is a "Green" Heavy Duty Motor Mount upgrade (they are no longer painted green).

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    I wish I had replaced my passenger side engine mount before I accidentally ran over a curb and destroyed my oil pan. That ended up taking out my driver's side mount as well as the aluminum bracket that the mount goes on. Installed a used pan and didn't realize that it had holes in it until after I had already buttoned it up. Put the car in storage and am now saving up for a NEW pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesman View Post
    hope this isn't a silly question but where is the best place to put the floor jack to raise the engine. I don't want a three inch hole in my oil pan that could be messy.Thanks
    Blues, not silly prudent...Ben is right a slab of wood 2x8 is best as it gives you the most control as the engine is not equally balanced depending on how much you wish to remove topside...just make sure the wood piece is not cracked as that will cause a major shift...Douglass Fir (framing wood) is lousy and the trees are about half as old as they should be so the density is way low so when it's kiln dried it becomes suseptable to checking and spitting with the grain....lots of guys invest in a hardwood 2x8 oak as that at least will be
    much more suitible...

    Good Luck!

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    Measure twice cut once :-) thats what I was taught. it's damn hard to stretch a 2x4 or in my case a brick or stone cut a 16th too short. Always remember cut to the right of your line. Thats for all you contractor bros that to remind you of the second lesson your first boss taught you. The first lesson I taught my guys was : "If I have to do it what am I payin you for?" Aw I miss those days and havin JR talk about the kiln dried Dfir brought back good memories when life was alot simpler and I depended on my back not my feeble brain as now.
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    Measure twice, cut once..!
    (Good to hear blues!)

    Being a semi-retired film editor I always strove to instill that same dilligence within my employees, who often qipped back at well past midnight...

    "Hey Boss! How many cuts until we can go home?"

    lol!

    The thing with cutting film is that one loses a half frame either side of the cut making both useless, so if you screw up it's hell to pay...not to much different than jacking your M30 up a foot or so and then the support board splits and it, well as said before...MY ENGINE FELL OUT!

    lol!

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