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1991 - 1999 (E36) (1991 - 1999) The first modern 3 Series, the E36, was the model that paved the way for the 3 Series to be named "Car of the Year" every year since the model was driving off showroom floors. Radically redesigned in 1992, the E36 was not the same 3 Series as the E21 and E30. Larger, less boxy in design, and equipped with a dual overhead cam engine, multilink rear suspension, and a more finished interior, the E36 balances sport with luxury.

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Old 11-05-2009, 11:12 PM
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war chip for 325i ?

I'm getting ready to swap some s50 cams into my 325i. I was just going to look for a used TMS chip for s50 cams, but now I'm thinking about the WAR chip. Sometime in the future, I plan on adding headers and lightweight flywheel. Is anyone using one of these in their 325i, or can at least give me some suggestions?

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:39 AM
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Im curious about this as well. I like the idea of being able to retune it instead of having to buy new chips every time you want to upgrade something. Cant beat the price either.
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That's what I'm thinking. If it performs, I'd buy it in a second. I just have to hear some feedback first. Hopefully from someone with s50 cams in an m50.
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There was some good feedback on it in the FI section. If you have know a trusted local shop with a dyno they should be able to tune it pretty easily for cams. I think im going to place an order with them once i have the extra cash for it and have my local shop get it on the dyno.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:58 AM
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I'm not FI, I'm looking for some feedback from people using the war chip with a NA m50. I thought the benefit of the war chip was that one wouldn't need to take it to a dyno for tuning.
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:04 PM
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Im not either i was just saying that they've had good luck with it. From my understanding you can upload maps that other users have made and posted on the site or play with it yourself on the street or whatever. I dont know much about tuning as of now. Thats why i suggested having someone who knows tuning and maybe has a dyno to try and get you the best results.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:59 AM
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i believe its better for multiple tunes. TRM.com has a pretty good chip , so does d'sylva.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:25 PM
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I like the idea of using the same chip no matter what mods you plan on doing.

TRM's chip for m50 w/ s50 cams is $350. Can't find anything on d'sylva's site about m50 with s50 cams.
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I like the idea of using the same chip no matter what mods you plan on doing.

TRM's chip for m50 w/ s50 cams is $350. Can't find anything on d'sylva's site about m50 with s50 cams.

got a D'sylva chip in my m50 with headers, S50 cams, Cai and cat back, performs well but i really think the car is capable of more.

I would like to hear more accounts from users or the W.A.R. chip.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:33 PM
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I like the idea of using the same chip no matter what mods you plan on doing.

TRM's chip for m50 w/ s50 cams is $350. Can't find anything on d'sylva's site about m50 with s50 cams.

you can have any chip tuned to your liking. the war chip allows you to install multiple tunes on that chip and switch between them. its good for turbo, water/meth injection, nos, etc where you need to adjust the ignition timing, etc to accomodate nos or meth injection running.
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+1 on more feed back it looks really interesting.
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I guess the topic of this thread should have been "what's the best chip for my m50 with s50 cams and probably headers and ltw flywheel coming sometime?"
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We will be developing some base performance tunes for the W.A.R. Chip in the next few weeks. There are lots of guys running our W.A.R. Chip for their N/A cars. We just sold out yesterday of our first 250 W.A.R. Chips.

There are a few guys with M50 motors that recently purchased a W.A.R. Chip on here. Nismoracer? is one of them, he has a 5 series so he hangs out in that forum.

The benefits of multiple tunes for an N/A car is that you can run store a race gas tune if you track your car, you can have valet mode, or low grade fuel mode etc.

Let me know what questions you guys have.

Joey79, we are Canadian. Only reason I post this is because 90% of our Canadian customer don't even know we are Canadian!
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Yup I have a W.A.R. Chip for my 1995 525i so it has the M50 engine. The product came packaged nicely and was easy to install. Once i installed the software on my laptop I began to look around at what you can do with the program/war chip. I see a HUGE possibility of modifications that can be done because with the war chip you can tune for each modification that you do to your car. Also the fact that it can store 4 programs is a huge bonus over other chips that just have one performance tune on them.


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nice. so you can change your chip tune with your comp. Does it need to be a laptop?

what kind of power are people seeing form these chips? Comparable to jim conforti?
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Doesn't need to be a laptop. I loaded my first tune with a desktop. A laptop will make it a lot easier though. I just wired the USB cable through the glovebox in my car
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The only thing that kills me is there are very little tunes available. This is the essential supporting piece to sell this product.

Its like buying some nice new rims but no one makes tires for them. What good is it?

I want to buy it but there is only 1 tune for the M50 and who made it? How do you know it isn't going to jack up your engine?
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:29 PM
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The only thing that kills me is there are very little tunes available. This is the essential supporting piece to sell this product.

Its like buying some nice new rims but no one makes tires for them. What good is it?

I want to buy it but there is only 1 tune for the M50 and who made it? How do you know it isn't going to jack up your engine?
All the tunes in the library are our proven software with the exception of two M20 tunes and one M30 tune. Which have been up'ed by users and also been verified by us. We screen the tunes before we approve them for the W.A.R. Room. Generally if it is a user submitted tune, there is usually credit given in the description.

I will be posting dyno sheets from the various e36 tunes we have posted/done. We will be working on many more and as people submit their own tunes, the library will grow quickly.
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What will the price be when you have more in stock? Is there a tune available for m50 with s50 cams?
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All the tunes in the library are our proven software with the exception of two M20 tunes and one M30 tune. Which have been up'ed by users and also been verified by us. We screen the tunes before we approve them for the W.A.R. Room. Generally if it is a user submitted tune, there is usually credit given in the description.

I will be posting dyno sheets from the various e36 tunes we have posted/done. We will be working on many more and as people submit their own tunes, the library will grow quickly.

Hi i am planing to get the multi throttle body from the euro M3 and to put it in my Us m3 e36. i am running also shricks, do you have a chip for my applications?
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We will have something suitable for your application. While it won't be the exact match, you can always massage the tune out with the editing software on your own, or you can go to you local dyno shop. Our editing software is very easy to use.

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We will have one developed soon as well. Once they are back in stock the price will go back to its normal 350.00
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Hmm, well, if the price ever hits $250 again, and the tune I want is available, I might go for it.
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[QUOTE=Brody;17882061]We will have something suitable for your application. While it won't be the exact match, you can always massage the tune out with the editing software on your own, or you can go to you local dyno shop. Our editing software is very easy to use.



I have been checking your website, it is cool we could program the ecu everytime we need to, and seems very easy but i dont see my ecu #
my ecu number is #506,
also if i do it myself, there is any risk i could do it wrong? i dont have any experience
any posibilty i could damage the engine?
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I have been checking your website, it is cool we could program the ecu everytime we need to, and seems very easy but i dont see my ecu #
my ecu number is #506,
also if i do it myself, there is any risk i could do it wrong? i dont have any experience
any posibilty i could damage the engine?
You can use the 413 tunes. I will change the W.A.R. Room so it reads 413/506 similar to the e30 section 173/380/525. All our 413 tunes are 506 based anywawy.

Like any modification to your car, you can cause damage. However, you would have to be doing something very wrong like "trying" 30 degrees of timing when you see the value in the cell is set around 10. It is pretty straight forward, and if you are new, you are naturally going to take baby steps anyway out of fear.

But it is the same risk as installing a part like cams. If you follow the instructions, you will be fine, if you don't and you install the cam way off, you can bend a valve(s).
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