So, it is that time again boys and girls...
Time to replace the ATF, filter, and plugs.
This will be my second time.
Please reference my initial thread:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1009518
It became very controversial to say the least.
My car recently hit 94k miles, and it has been approx. 10k miles since I first replaced the ATF and filter at 83k miles.
I have had several bottles of Amsoil Universal ATF, an OEM ATF filter, and new transmission plugs sitting in my garage for almost 6 months.
Not to mention several other parts collecting dust... ::cough::(H&R coil-overs) :::cough:::
My family and I were planning on driving to my parent's for July 4th weekend, so I wanted to replace the ATF before the 8 hour trip.
Again, I used Jo's DIY write-up on replacing the ATF:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=860655
One thing to add though...
I used a T-45 instead of a T-40 torx socket head for the drain and fill plugs.
On with the pictures...
Car is up!
Like I said... T-45...
Dropped pan...
Looks a tad bit cleaner than the first time! LOL!
OLD pan....
FIRST TIME CHANGE
A not so clean pan:
Close-up of the magnet...
Notice the fluid looks red, not so black...
Clean pan....
Where have I seen this before????
New OEM filter is in my hand, the non-OEM is in the catch pan...
Notice the different color rubber plugs...
Also note that the rubber plugs can get stuck up inside the transmission...
Ask me how I know... LOL!
OEM filter....
Goop from magnet on my shop towel...
And a cool picture of my wheel and H&R coil-overs...
Impressions...
I feel absolutely no difference in how the car drives.
However I am so glad to get the old ATF out!
It's all about the peace of mind.
Thanks!
Jason
Last edited by Jason5driver; 08-23-2018 at 12:56 PM.
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Nice write up Jason! Car is looking clean
AW|Byzanz
Thanks!
I try...
I have my moments...
Well, I could have replaced the fluid a 1000 miles after the first ATF change, and actually that was what I initially had planned, but opted to replace the ATF after 10k.
I will replace the ATF and filter again in another 20k-30k miles.
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Nice work Jason. Its good to see that fluid getting closer to its original color. I need to do this soon. Ill be doing this sometime in earlier august because Im moving into a place with a garage. Im going to post pictures when I do it so we can compare two 01 525s with two different auto trans. I got the A5S 325Z compared to your A5S-390R. Only thing I could really find was that mine is german and yours is gm. also found:
Automatic transmission fluid capacity
• A5S 360R / A5S 390R
with torque converter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 liters (9.5 qt)
without torque converter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 liters (4.2 qt)
• A5S 325Z (2.5 liter)
with torque converter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8.9 liters (9.4 qt)
without torque converter . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.2 liters (6.5 qt)
Does one have a higher failure rate or any other differences?
Last edited by Jason5driver; 08-21-2009 at 03:57 AM.
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Those damn French with their cheese, wine and poo poo transmissions....
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really, you needed a whole another post about this, sorry to say it but you wasted a good deal of money on this second change.
I would note that even with shiny fresh fluid over a very short interval you are continuing to have wear and the fluid is well on its way to being black and burnt looking, I would wonder how the rate compares to before the first change.
It would be interesting to open a transmission, change the filter and clean the pan/magnet, but then re load with the old fluid(no new fluid) then check it at 10k miles.
This definitely wins the thread whore of the week award in my book.
Last edited by NNY528I; 07-09-2009 at 09:38 PM.
>'97 528i, 200000 miles, Hella Xenons, 17" Stilauto wheels, Vogtland Drop Springs, Dynomax Race Muffler, Homelink, 540 brake upgrade, 15mm spacers >'65 & '74 MG Midgets BFC OT Lego Club #48 Manual conversion in process!!!
I guess I do not understand your logic.
This ATF replacement was money WELL spent IMO.
As I recall, I think my tranmission has approx. 9 qt capacity with the torque converter and approx. 4 qt capacity without the torque converter.
So, I only replaced about 75% of the old fluid on the first ATF replacement (put in approx. 6 qts of Amsoil Universal ATF).
Hence, I wanted to do ANOTHER ATF replacement to get as much of the old ATF out as possible.
I put in approx. 6 qts of ATF the second time.
I know one thing though.... Amsoil Universal ATF is some good stuff!
I spent about $6.50 per qt on the Amsoil ATF, about $3.00 for new drain and fill plugs, and about $80 for a new OEM ATF filter kit with new pan bolts.
So, it comes to approx. $140-$150 total.
I would gladdly spend $140 instead of spending $1500 for a ATF transmission rebuild kit or $5000+ for a whole new transmission!
DOH!
And, I don't want to be your thread whore...
LOL!
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>'97 528i, 200000 miles, Hella Xenons, 17" Stilauto wheels, Vogtland Drop Springs, Dynomax Race Muffler, Homelink, 540 brake upgrade, 15mm spacers >'65 & '74 MG Midgets BFC OT Lego Club #48 Manual conversion in process!!!
Just sell me your coilovers, we all know you'll never get around to installing them.
It's just purely common sense IMO...
Would you rather have a clean engine or a dirty engine?
1. Which engine will run better?
a. An engine that has never had an oil change, or
b. An engine that has regular oil changes???
If you had read Jo's DIY write-up or any of the other ATF DIY's, it is stated that at least (2) ATF changes are needed in order to get most of the old ATF out.
I am sorry you do not understand that.
LOL!
Like I stated before....
Regular transmssion fluid changes will be done at the typical 30k mile mark as what is scheduled in the old-school maintenance schedule.
Reference Mike Miller's maintenance schedule and BavAuto's schedule.
Actually, you are wrong...
LOL!
I had planned on installing them right after the ATF replacement, but was stopped by the wife's plans...
I actually started to take apart the front, but at 8pm Sunday night, I realized that I would never get done in time before work the next day...
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lol...your always so close to installing them!
...I thought we only criticized people for not doing maintenance on bimmerforums
AW|Byzanz
Changing your tie rod ends at the same time eh? You could have done the front coils... those take a couple hours max.
Yeps!
I have new tie rods that I was going to install at the time.
I had to buy the special pliers to crimp the dust cover rubber boot to the tie rods too.
I figured that the tie rod install would set me back time wise, so I opted to wait until another weekend and have a FULL day to do the work.
I have never done a strut or shock install, nor the tie rods before, so I am guessing I will take much longer than most people.
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1000 mile oil changes are purely common sense too lol
Would you rather have a clean engine or a dirty engine?
1. Which engine will run better?
a. An engine that has regular oil changes every 1000 miles, or
b. An engine that has regular oil changes every 5000 miles????
Is Jo a father of automatic transmissions? Does Jo have any expertise? Did Jo design your transmission?
I am sorry you do not understand that.
LOL!
And to stay on topic, you DID NOT answer NNY528I's main question - why not do fluid change every 3000 miles?
Wow!
It is hard to explain anything to someone that chooses NOT to listen.
By your pure ignorant statements, I can only assume that you are being very sarcastic...
Your statements about Jo are very childish IMO.
I can not even reply to such non-sense.
I can only explain the ATF replacement procedure so many times, and so clearly...
I really DO NOT know how to make it any more clear for you.
You would think after looking at the picture of dropped pan on the first replacement, then looking at the picture of the second replacement would be enough....????
Even my 5 year old daughter could figure out which procedure is best:
A. Leave in the old dirty/ yucky stuff, or
B. Put in new clean stuff...
And, I DID answer NNY's question.
You just do not understand.
Sorry.
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