E36 Ls1 subframe update

[Mas280]

[Brent 930]

Again, awesome work! If I ever do the swap you must build me one, k?

[numbnuts22715]

that looks awesome!
have you ever thought about building and selling a few of these?

[Mas280]

Again, awesome work! If I ever do the swap you must build me one, k?

Thanks, but I did not build it. I droped my car off at the same shop that builds the RX7 v8 subframe. They did a great job building a new subframe for the e36. I am looking forward to driving my M3.

Mike

that looks awesome!
have you ever thought about building and selling a few of these?

The shop will build you the same subframe if you need one. They made a fixture so they could make more if needed.

When I bought my M3 a few months ago I was going to buy Vorslag kit to get my car up and running fast. It looks to be a very nice kit but they do not have any kit ready for sale and I did not want to wait. So I had Sanberg make a new mounting kit. They made a new subframe insteed of making just mount so that I could use a stock ls2/ls3 oil pan. The stock subframe just gets in the way of the ls2/ls3 oil pans.

Mike





I would like to get a radiator set up like I have on the RX7 with the cold air from the front of the car. It looks like there will be room for it on the e36.




This is what the same shop builds for the RX7 swaps.

[hefftone]

I've been screaming this for months, and I contacted multiple companies that build LS1's swap subframes for other cars, and got nowhere. This makes so much more sense. I'm dying to know how your steering, exhaust manifolds and Brake MC is working out! Please don't hold back on any of the details.

The piece looks awesome.

[Mas280]

I've been screaming this for months, and I contacted multiple companies that build LS1's swap subframes for other cars, and got nowhere. This makes so much more sense. I'm dying to know how your steering, exhaust manifolds and Brake MC is working out! Please don't hold back on any of the details.

The piece looks awesome.

1)Stock brake booster
2)custom headers will be built, I have not tried manifolds, the new subframe allows more room for headers.
3) stock steering
4) stock ls2/ls3 oil pans

[Schitzo]

Sanberg do a great job. Will you retain the stock diff and rear subframe or will you have them make you one that uses the cobra diff? you know you want to

[hefftone]

Is Sanberg the name of the guy/shop that built the piece? I have'nt found anything related to cars with that name. Do they have a website? What city/state are they in?

[Brent 930]

I'm sure the guys who made the subframe considered the market for them. While they probably didn't make their money back on the first one, they know it will pay off later. That is, this subframe could have costed the OP a lot more money otherwise, and maybe it did.

Odds are this subframe will crush the market for the E36 LS1 swaps because it serves two purposes and will probably cost no more than a set of motor mounts, which are really expensive.

My only concern regarding this part is the NVH it might cause. It looks like some custom poly bushing were using in the pivot joints.

[kalare]

1)Stock brake booster
2)custom headers will be built, I have not tried manifolds, the new subframe allows more room for headers.
3) stock steering
4) stock ls2/ls3 oil pans

Man...I would really like to see this being produced. What size primaries are going to be used for the headers? If the cost can come in below Vorhlag these people could see ALOT of parts...including to me.

[Brent 930]

Keeping the stock steering remains to be seen as the exhaust will be close and thus it can't handle the heat.

As for the headers, Vorshalgs are top notch. The materials, and welds. You might be thinking headers are just headers but that isn't true. The 4 pipe collectors are very expensive. Even primarys/bends/collectors/materials/welds/perfect fit = expensive.

[kalare]

Keeping the stock steering remains to be seen as the exhaust will be close and thus it can't handle the heat.

As for the headers, Vorshalgs are top notch. The materials, and welds. You might be thinking headers are just headers but that isn't true. The 4 pipe collectors are very expensive. Even primarys/bends/collectors/materials/welds/perfect fit = expensive.

I'm not putting their kit down at all. Of course it's expensive for a reason. I've read every post on both of their build threads and have all the respect one can have for what they produced. That being said, if someone else can do it for a little bit less, I see no problem with that. If not, I guess I'll have to buy vorshlag/DP. Let's try to keep this not too far OT. I didn't meant to turn this into a kit war.

OP...Any more info on your build?

[sprbxr]

I have been considering fabbing a subframe for my LS swap. Every time I start thinking about it, I want to get rid of the stock front control arms and use some A-arms with inner spherical bearings. Next thing I know, my LS swap is spiraling out of control.

[numbnuts22715]

you need to ask that sanberg how much this thing is going to run once he starts making runs of them.

[Mas280]

you need to ask that sanberg how much this thing is going to run once he starts making runs of them.

I am sure that the price will be less for the subframe,trans mount, headers than what is on the market today.

Mike

[Mas280]

[Brent 930]

Is that suppose to be another version of a diff support brace? If so it doesn't look like it will be very functional.

[Mas280]

Is that suppose to be another version of a diff support brace? If so it doesn't look like it will be very functional.

I am not sure what else is out there, but this brace should be very strong.

[Brent 930]

Active Autoworks sells one. I have one on my car.

I'm sure it's strong, and it was nicely made, but from the picture it doesn't look like that support locks the diff housing down. That is why I mentioned it doesn't look functional.

[rao]

It puts the bolt in double shear and it should do the job nicely. It's a lot fancier than it needs to be, which is not all bad

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...t=differential

That Active Autowerks one is not how you want to go

[kalare]

How does that subframe have the engine sitting? Straight and centered?

[Mas280]

It puts the bolt in double shear and it should do the job nicely. It's a lot fancier than it needs to be, which is not all bad

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...t=differential

That Active Autowerks one is not how you want to go

So it looks like you just welded to the diff to add more support?

Mike

How does that subframe have the engine sitting? Straight and centered?

The motor is offset to the pass side, the motor/trans is centered with the diff. The factory motor is offset to the pass side.

[rao]

So it looks like you just welded to the diff to add more support?

Mike

Yep; that's what all of the cool kids do

[kalare]

The motor is offset to the pass side, the motor/trans is centered with the diff. The factory motor is offset to the pass side.

Looks good...not tilted or angled motor I assume, since it looks level in the pics. How do you plan on doing ABS?

[Brent 930]

Yep; that's what all of the cool kids do

How easy is it to take your diff out?