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Quick springs and drifting question
From what i read soft springs let you know when the back end is going to give way. But when i drift a corner and i try to catch it and countersteer and stuff it gets bouncy. Its hard to discribe but i went into a turn and the back end breaks loose and when i go to catch it it whips the car the other way and shifts all the weight. I know some of it is driver error but would stiffer springs make catching the oversteer easier?
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Um.. hm..hm.. ahem... tap....tap....tap..... is this thing on?
Listen carefully, because I'm only going to say this once.... You can't drift in a 325.
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Any advice I may give here is - at best - tongue-in-cheek, and just as likely outright offensive. I've been doing this for a long time and I usually have a pretty good idea of that which I speak - but not always. So break out your grain of salt and try to keep up.
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Quote:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...007_143794.htm
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same shit controlled oversteer. You all know what i mean..
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--Shwartz II 325is-- Go: Bilstein Sport Shocks/Bav Auto Coils, KMAC adjustable camber plates, Eibach Lowering springs, TMS Aluminum RSMs w/ TMS reinforment plates, M3 sunflowersShow: ZHP shift knob, M3 floor mats, Pioneer Heady Coming soon/wanted: 3.23 tabs of LSD, Black Vaders, s50. |
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What you described -- the car whipping the other way -- is a very well understood vehicle dynamics/car control issue. While it's well understood, it's hard to fire off a line or two that will provide a meaningful explanation. And there's no substitute for seat time. That's why I linked those resources. The book and the class are cheaper than any car mod you can do, other than changing your tire pressure.
"Going Faster" costs just $29.95 and covers skid control and many other topics quite well. A CCC or AutoX instructor probably won't want to teach you how to drift, because it's the slow way around a corner (except on gravel), but getting into and out of a skid is typical fare for this type of school. Having that car control skill under your belt, you can adapt it to driving sideways. |
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once you feel the rear about to hook up when exiting the drift, you need to snatch the wheel straight. otherwise, remaining steering combined with all the stored energy the springs just released, will cause an over-rotation, leading into a tank-slapper. to feel the tipping point, you have to be totally relaxed in the seat, which comes with seat time. ideally seat time while sideways on a skid pad.
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