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Old 04-10-2009, 10:44 PM
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Quick springs and drifting question

From what i read soft springs let you know when the back end is going to give way. But when i drift a corner and i try to catch it and countersteer and stuff it gets bouncy. Its hard to discribe but i went into a turn and the back end breaks loose and when i go to catch it it whips the car the other way and shifts all the weight. I know some of it is driver error but would stiffer springs make catching the oversteer easier?
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you probably dont know how to drift right, stiffer springs wont let u catch the oversteer easier but it will help transition the wieght of the car to get you sideways
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Um.. hm..hm.. ahem... tap....tap....tap..... is this thing on?

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You can't drift in a 325.
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:43 PM
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Um.. hm..hm.. ahem... tap....tap....tap..... is this thing on?

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You can't drift in a 325.
Cant drift a 325? http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...007_143794.htm
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when i go to catch it it whips the car the other way
That's a hook slide.

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Go to a Car Control Clinic.
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:58 PM
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same shit controlled oversteer. You all know what i mean..
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:40 AM
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Do you lift when that happens?
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What you described -- the car whipping the other way -- is a very well understood vehicle dynamics/car control issue. While it's well understood, it's hard to fire off a line or two that will provide a meaningful explanation. And there's no substitute for seat time. That's why I linked those resources. The book and the class are cheaper than any car mod you can do, other than changing your tire pressure.

"Going Faster" costs just $29.95 and covers skid control and many other topics quite well.

A CCC or AutoX instructor probably won't want to teach you how to drift, because it's the slow way around a corner (except on gravel), but getting into and out of a skid is typical fare for this type of school. Having that car control skill under your belt, you can adapt it to driving sideways.
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once you feel the rear about to hook up when exiting the drift, you need to snatch the wheel straight. otherwise, remaining steering combined with all the stored energy the springs just released, will cause an over-rotation, leading into a tank-slapper. to feel the tipping point, you have to be totally relaxed in the seat, which comes with seat time. ideally seat time while sideways on a skid pad.
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