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    Detailing process, techniques and supplies...

    I originally posted this for the e36tech forum a while back but since I'm done with the busy part of my life (finishing school, getting a job, getting an E36 M3 etc. etc.) and I'm back on the forums daily again, I thought I'd post here as well as it might be helpful to the many people going DIY with detailing...

    At the end is a video I recently recorded using a makita rotary...

    Everything I post is something I’ve done, usually something I keep doing as it works, so please don’t take it to heart if it differs from your process and, as always, do anything I say at your own risk.

    The product list links are broken and I'll work on fixing them, but as always, try and find the best price online and try to order from as few stores as possible to save on shipping costs...

    The process of a complete detail:

    1. Wash
    2/3. Clay
    2/3. Dry (I put 2/3 because many detailers, as well as myself, like to clay the car right after washing because you must dry it anyway after claying to get all the lube off... this way you save yourself some time by not drying initially)
    4. Polish
    5. Seal
    6. Maintain (Most important step)


    Detailed explanation/instructions:


    Washing

    Many people have adopted the 2-bucket method… one rinse bucket and one soap/wash bucket. The idea is that you soak the sponge/mitt (whatever you’re using to wash) in the wash bucket, wash a section of the car, rinse the sponge off in the rinse bucket, then go to the wash bucket again and wash a section again, etc. While this is good practice, definitely better than using just one bucket, it’s not perfect so to speak. The idea behind the 2-bucket method is that dirt trapped in the sponge after washing down a section will be released into the rinse bucket, so it’s not brought back to the paint. Problem is, all that dirt (depending on how dirty a car is) is usually not going to come out completely, or even close to completely, into the rinse bucket. The best way to do it is to rinse the sponge with the hose thoroughly after washing a section, which will ensure most, if not all, trapped dirt is rinsed out. After that, you can either use 1 or 2 buckets… I still use 2-buckets (I rinse the sponge into the rinse bucket AFTER rinsing it with the hose) then start with the wash bucket again. The main thing is that the soap/water solution in the wash bucket should be as clean at the end of the wash as it was when you started. This is my process, which has worked great for a few years now:

    1. Pre-wash: Before washing the entire car you want to begin with a thorough rinse, starting with low pressure to get it wet, then high pressure to get rid of as much loose dirt as possible. Then you should check around the entire car for any serious and heavy contamination, such as tar, tree sap, etc. and apply a cleaner to those areas so you don’t damage the paint during washing these areas by scrubbing hard.
    2. Wash wheels, tires and wheel wells: You always want to start with the wheels and tires and finish them completely for two reasons, a. they’re always the most dirty areas and you want to clean those first to get most of the dirt off the vehicle as a whole, and b. any excess of dressing applied to tires and wheel wells will be washed off during the wash if it gets onto the paint around the wheels. To wash the wheels and tires, first spray an all purpose cleaner onto the wheel wells and tires (or use tire cleaner for tires). Then spray a wheel cleaner onto the wheels. (I like to do 1 side at a time so the cleaners don’t dry, which usually happens if you spray all 4 wheels/tires) If the car has enough of a gap, try and get a brush, or at least a terry towel, under the wheel wells to scrub them clean after the cleaner is sprayed on. Then, scrub the tires with a brush or terry towel to clean them. Lastly take a brush or microfiber towel to the wheels and clean them after the cleaner is on there. Rinse everything off and dry thoroughly before applying a dressing to tires and wheel wells. You can wax the wheels later, when you do the paint, or at this point… either one is fine. Move on to washing the paint surfaces.
    3. Wash paint: As mentioned above, use 2-bucket method. I use 2 5-gallon buckets both with grit guards in them. I fill the rinse bucket to about 4 gallons and let sponges (1 sponge for lower panels, 1 for upper) soak in there for a minute, while I add about 1 gallon of water to the wash bucket, then 4oz. of soap (different soaps will suggest different amount per gallon) then about 3 more gallons with a hard spray to get all the soap bubbly. Next, leaving one sponge in the rinse bucket, I take the one I’ll be using on upper panels, soak it a bit in the wash bucket, then wash half the roof, rinse the sponge with the hose, throw it in the rinse bucket, rinse off the half-roof section I just washed, wring the sponge into the rinse bucket, soak in wash bucket again, wash other half of roof, etc. I do the roof in two parts, then whole trunk (including back section but not bumper), then hood in two parts, then all glass (front windshield, back glass, windows, mirrors), then upper half of panels on one side, then upper half of panels on the other side, then (with the sponge for lower panels) I do the lower half of panels one side, then lower half of panels on the other side, rear bumper and finally front bumper along with headlights, grille, etc. After every of these sections I’m doing the same thing as before, rinsing the sponge out with the hose, washing the section off, wringing sponge into rinse bucket, then moving on. The idea here is to do a small section when washing so only a little dirt gets trapped into the sponge, making it easier to rinse off. You wash the section off immediately as to not have potential water/soap solution drying up on the car and leaving spots. Throughout the wash you’ll want to rinse the entire car, especially if it’s hot and sunny outside, to keep any water from drying on any panel. When you’re about to fully detail the car, this isn’t a huge deal as you’ll get out any of those dried up water spots easily with the lightest of polishes, but for maintenance washes it’s extremely important because you don’t want to scrub the water spots later when drying. After all that is said and done, and every panels is thoroughly washed and clean, rinse the car off one last time, making sure to get a good stream into all the door, trunk jambs, etc. to get any leftover soap out. Lastly, set the hose nozzle on a very light stream and lower the pressure (I use a on/off valve between the hose and nozzle to make this easier) and “wash the water off” the car by lightly rinsing… this makes most of the water come off as it doesn’t stay in the usual beads, rather just flows off.


    Claying

    To determine if you need to clay a car, you should wash the car, dry it, then feel for any contamination stuck in the paint which cannot be removed with washing, or even polishing sometimes. To do this, place your hand inside a Ziploc bag, and run it over the paint… you can also do it with a clean, dry, bare hand. The paint should feel very smooth with no little “bumps” if it doesn’t need to be clayed. If it does, sometimes it’s so bad that when you run your finger over the paint, it will feel like you’re touching sandpaper… other times you simply feel a bunch of very tiny bumps on the paint, indicating there are small particles stuck into the paint, only removable by claying the car. Usually you can also feel these contaminants when the paint is still wet, but water will make them less obvious, so it’s better to check on clean, dry paint. Lastly, the most contaminated areas will be the hood, fenders, front of roof, and front bumper obviously; this is simply because these parts are driving into the contamination. This method of checking (wash, dry, check/clay) goes against my process above (wash, clay, dry) simply because the process above is for a complete detail, when you know you’ll be claying the car. Once you’ve determined you will be claying the car, the process is simple:

    1. Spray a section of paint (about ½ or ¼ of roof, and move along same as with the wash process… roof, hood, trunk, etc.) with lots of lube (any quick detailer can be used as clay lube, but DO NOT use a spray wax type product… make sure it is a pure quick detailer which is only meant for light cleaning of dust, etc. and has no waxing/sealing abilities, as this will make a huge mess when claying.. basically you’ll be applying a wax with a clay bar, the tool meant to remove wax in the first place…)
    2. Move the clay bar very LIGHTLY (only pressure necessary is enough to keep the clay bar touching the paint, nothing else) over the paint, in any motion you prefer (I usually do the simple, up, down, up, etc.), until you feel no more contamination being removed… you will either feel it on the clay bar or hear, or both, as the clay bar removes contamination on the paint while you’re moving it, and later you will be able to touch the dried surface and notice a difference before/after.
    3. Once you’ve completed a section, dry off the lube and clay residue (See the alternate step in the Drying section below), feel the difference, and then move on.
    4. (Optional) It isn’t always necessary but it’s always recommended to clay the wheels on your car to remove some stuck on brake dust, and similar contamination as in the paint. Process is the same for wheels since they’re usually painted.

    The main thing with clay is to keep a lot of lube on the paint surface and to apply no pressure other than what I mentioned above. If there is not enough lube, or if there’s too much pressure, the clay bar will start leaving marring on the paint by sticking to the paint. Very aggressive clay bars can not only leave a somewhat solid residue with not enough lube, but can actually mar the paint due to them being so aggressive. This is why the saying “try the least aggressive method first” should always be the #1 thing in your head when maintaining and/or correcting the paint on your car (and especially a client’s car haha).


    Drying

    Drying is the most damaging step as far as maintenance of a car goes usually, simply because not enough care is taken and dirty towels are used. During washing, you at least have some lubrication and a tool (sponge) to pick up and contain some of the loose dirt. When drying, however, you’re wiping paint with a towel with very short nap, especially compared to a wash sponge/mitt, and the more you wipe on the paint the more chances you have of introducing swirl marks into the paint. Some paints, Porsche for example, are EXTREMELY soft, and any pressure and/or additional, unnecessary drying/wiping on the paint will results in pretty noticeable scratches, especially on black. BMW has some pretty hard paints usually, but jet black is soft sometimes and other colors might randomly be soft, so always practice being careful when drying. The best process I’ve found works for me is:

    1. If doing drying right after washing, use a large, microfiber, waffle drying towel and simply blot-dry the entire car with it. Use as many towels as necessary (I use 2-4 depending on car size; E36 would usually require 2 16”x24” or 24”x24” towels)… this will prevent any damage you might do by dragging the towels across the paint to dry.
    2. Once the entire car is dried as mentioned above, use a new microfiber towel, preferably another waffle drying towel, to LIGHTLY wipe off any access water.
    3. OR, instead of step 2, do what I prefer on maintenance washes (maintenance being washes when there is no polishing afterward; if I’m polishing after, I could honestly care less about drying very carefully, since I know anything that I might put in the paint will come out with the lightest of polishes)… use a quick detailer to spray the car in sections and wipe down, once the car is blot-dried that is. This way you have some lube and aren’t wiping almost dry paint and you’re also cleaning the paint a bit with the quick detailer.

    OR

    1. If you’re drying after using a clay bar, you would simply do step 3 above, meaning you would dry the car and get rid of any leftover clay bar and clay lube residue in one step by using a quick detailer and some micro fiber towels to wipe down the car.
    2/4. Once the paint is done, you can wipe down the door jambs, trunk jambs, etc. (basically any crevice where water might sit after a wash). Car is now ready for polishing or sealing.


    Polishing

    Polishing is the most important part of a detail. You can clay a car then wax it, or you can just wax it, and it will look better and feel better than what you started with, but it isn’t until you’ve properly polished the paint (usually only possible by machine) that the real gloss, clarity and swirl-free finish comes out. Polishing will mechanically remove paint in order to correct defects such as swirl marks. After a proper polishing a sealant and/or wax is a must to protect the finish. Polishing process is as follows:

    By hand:
    I can safely say that very little can be accomplished by hand, and while not very efficient, even a $20-30 orbital buffer/polisher from a local car parts store will do a MUCH better job than by hand. This is due to the simple logic that your hand can only move so fast and apply only so much pressure. Plus you’re going to feel numb for a week if you try and polish an entire car by hand. What IS effective by hand is the use of all-in-one polishes (such as Klasse All-In-One) to chemically (as opposed to mechanically, by machine) remove defects such as some water spots, oxidation, etc. Also, a must by hand is the polishing of crevices on the car that are otherwise simply impossible to polish by machine… such places/parts include underneath most door handles, emblems like VW, Audi, etc. etc. Process by hand is simple:

    1. Choose a polish that will have enough cutting power to actually do something by hand.
    2. Apply a dime or smaller sized bead of this polish to a foam applicator pad, or even a small 3” machine polishing pad (this is what I use for those tight areas)
    3. Spread the product onto the surface where you intend to polish, then simply go at it as fast as you can and almost as hard as you can, wiping in circular motions but moving up and down, left and right.

    I’m no expert on hand polishing, so above steps are what I use for small areas and what I’ve used a long time ago on a few panels done by hand. It’s been very effective for the small areas, but tiring even then.

    By machine:
    As stated above, this is the detailing step where you should strictly follow the rule “least aggressive method first”. If you go with a pad/polish and/or machine that’s too aggressive, you’ll only make more work for yourself and possibly even damage the paint (usually with a rotary buffer). That said, there are two buffers that are very popular… a rotary machine (I use a Makita 9227, my baby haha), which takes a lot of skill and experience to properly use, but is definitely not an impossible task to accomplish, and a random orbital machine (I use a Flex and Porter Cable) which is VERY safe for anyone with any logical thinking, yet it can do great correction work when done properly. There are many videos online (I’ll post links when I get a chance) that show proper movement, polish breakdown, etc. etc. with different machines. Since many detailers have different opinions, and many manufacturers have their own data and opinions about how polishes will work, how long to work it in, etc., I won’t go into detail about that. One thing to note is that you will always work in a polish longer with a random orbital machine than a rotary, which creates heat and breaks down polishes much faster… this is why some, usually more aggressive polishes require a rotary to work properly, and are limited with a random orbital. Process with either machine is:

    1. As stated above, choose a pad and polish combo that’s least aggressive (basically a finishing polish with a finishing pad) and move up if necessary.
    2a. Apply an X of product across the pad… use small (1/8”) lines for this as you don’t want too much product on the pad, then spread the product over a small work area (20”x20” or so).
    2b. (Usually, if not always, done with rotary polishers) Apply a line of product to the paint then pick it up with a pad… this takes skill and one should first learn step 2a…. both work the same way, so they’re simply different preferences of different detailers (I use 2a 99.9% of the time just because I became more comfortable with that)
    3. Start at a lower speed to more evenly spread the polish, then move up in speed to work in the polish.
    4. After doing a section (I always recommend doing a few test spots, usually on hood and/or trunk, to find the best pad/polish combo(s) to properly correct the paint) wipe off the polish residue, then use a 50/50 isopropyl alcohol 70% and water mixture to clean off that section. This ensures no filling agents within the polish are hiding leftover swirl marks and/or other defects… (some polishes, usually called “glazes” have filling abilities, so while they do remove some swirl marks by removing paint mechanically, they tend to hide a lot of what’s left over, making the finish seem better than it actually is)
    5. Keep doing step 4 until you’re happy with the results, whether it’s 1 step or 5 steps is up to you… the steps is also a topic in its own because you are in fact removing paint, so, especially with a rotary, you must limit yourself to how much polishing is to be done.
    6. Once you’ve found a combo(s) that work, and the entire vehicle is polished, do a 50/50 iso/water wipedown to get the car ready for sealing.


    Sealing

    Sealing can be done with any quality wax or sealant on the market. This is a straight forward procedure and different manufacturers have different application/removal instructions, so I won’t go into detail here. Sealants usually last longer than carnauba waxes due to their chemical makeup, but the carnauba waxes are known to bring out the color better and make it look deeper, usually on dark-colored cars. This of course is very subjective, so any quality sealant or wax will do a great job. I usually do 2-3 layers of a sealant (Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze) within a month after the complete detail, then top that off every 4-6 weeks with a carnauba wax. Again, subjective topic so do what you like, but definitely use quality products (I HATE Turtle Wax, just so it’s known haha):

    1. Apply product (most sealants and waxes require very little product.. “less is more” when it comes to this)
    2. Let product dry.
    3. Wipe off residue with microfiber towels
    4. Enjoy the finish!

    As with everything else, whether washing, drying, applying wax, cleaning off residue, always make as little contact with the paint as possible, and always make that contact as light as possible.


    Maintaining

    Maintenance isn’t really a part of a complete detail per say, since there’s nothing to do after sealing of the paint is done. Maintenance refers to proper washing, drying and waxing techniques to use after the paint is corrected and you have a great base to begin maintenance work.

    1. Washing should be done every 4-15 days, depending on driving patterns, how dirty car gets, etc. etc. I always recommend weekly washes for any car that’s not a “garage queen” or show car, and even more often if car gets dirty within a few days.
    2. Sealant and/or wax should be applied every 4-8 weeks to ensure the paint finish is protected from the elements as much as possible (sealant or wax tend to make harder for water spots to occur, for bird sh*t to do damage to the paint, etc. etc.)
    3. Claying should be done on an “as needed basis” but I always recommend it be done at least 1-2 times a year.
    4. A complete detail, including all steps above (claying, polishing, etc.) should be done at least twice a year, to ensure you get rid of any light swirl marks the appeared, instead of waiting a couple years again and having to do a more aggressive polishing.
    5. Lastly, quick detailers are great to remove dust every day or two that might accumulate on the paint, even if it just sits in the garage, but I always wait until the weekly wash as I don’t want to risk swirling the paint doing anything else.

    Some important stuff:
    Main thing to remember… TOUCH THE PAINT AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE!
    Use microfiber towels on all painted surfaces.

    This is basically a complete process for a paint correction detail.
    I do not do much complete interior work, so I’ll post up a small process and product suggestions later.
    I will also most likely expand and/or edit a few things within a few sections above as I see fit, so I'll note all changes with a new post and also in the original post, probably in different color font.

    Hope this is helpful and feel free to PM me or e-mail @ ivan@lustrdetail.com with any questions whatsoever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzyRb...echniques.html


    DETAILED ARTICLES:

    Washing

    Washing a vehicle is undoubtedly the most important step in the paint maintenance process. Whether it’s a prep wash before a thorough polishing and correction or just a maintenance wash, it’s the step overlooked by many who are trying to rush through the job to get to polishing, waxing, driving, etc. Washing is the most important step of the process because it’s during washing that paint is not only cleansed of the dirt, grime, dust and grease acquired from every day driving, but also damaged by improper techniques, tools and supplies. If washed improperly, the paint surface will acquire more defects, such as water spots and scratches, than it will during regular driving periods. This is due to the fact that during washing a mitt is in contact with the paint, and improper use of the materials (soap, mitt, water, bucket) leaves a huge possibility that all the dirt and grime that’s accumulated on the paint will be pushed and pulled all over the paint surface, creating scratches and leaving a dull finish. Thus, everyone should invest in the proper supplies as well as the time to learn how to correctly wash the vehicle and clean it well instead of making it worse.

    Many people have adopted the 2-bucket method, using one rinse bucket and one soap/wash bucket. The idea is that you soak the wash mitt in the wash bucket, wash a section of the car, rinse the mitt off in the rinse bucket, then go to the wash bucket again and wash a section again, etc. While this is good practice, definitely better than using just one bucket, it’s not perfect so to speak. The idea behind the 2-bucket method is that dirt trapped in the mitt after washing down a section will be released into the rinse bucket, so it’s not brought back to the paint. Problem is, all that dirt (depending on how dirty a car is) is usually not going to completely come out into the rinse bucket. The best way to do it is to rinse the mitt with the nozzle thoroughly after washing a section, which will ensure most, if not all, trapped dirt is rinsed out. After that, you can rinse out the mitt in the rinse bucket. I actually rinse the mitt with the nozzle after washing a section, then move it around a bit in the rinse bucket, then a quick spray with the nozzle again. The main thing is that the soap/water solution in the wash bucket should be as clean at the end of the wash as it was when you started.


    Necessary Tools & Supplies for the job:
    (1) Hose (long enough to reach around entire car after being connected to a water source)
    (1) Spray nozzle for the hose
    (1) Shut-off valve between hose and nozzle (helps keep stream set on nozzle throughout the wash)
    (2) 5 gallon buckets (one for rinsing the mitt and one to hold the soap and water used for washing)
    (2) Grit guard bucket inserts (one for each bucket)
    (2) Sheepskin wash mitts (one is used for the upper panels and one for lower/dirtier parts)
    (1) Bottle of quality car soap
    (2) Waffle weave drying towels

    Additional:
    Numerous quality micro fiber towels (used for final wipe down with QD)
    Quick Detailer of choice (used for final wipe down with m/f towels)
    Wheel cleaner
    (2) Wheel brushes
    All-Purpose cleaner APC (used for wheel wells and lower plastic panels)
    Bug & Tar Remover (used for stubborn stuff like tar, bug splatter, tree sap, etc.)
    Tire brush
    Multi-purpose brush

    Optional:
    Water purifier system (eliminates or lowers the possibility of water spots)
    Foam Gun (aids in the washing process in that more grime is removed before the paint is washed)
    Blower/vacuum (aids in drying the vehicle in smaller areas, crevices, and door jambs)
    Smaller brush (for lug nuts)


    Process of the two-bucket method wash before doing correction:
    [(*) denotes steps to be skipped when doing only a maintenance wash]

    Preperation:

    1. Attach hose to water source, shut-off valve to hose, and nozzle to shut-off valve
    2. Place a grit guard in each bucket and mark (with a Sharpie or similar) one bucket “R”inse and the other “W”ash.
    3. Pour about 3 gallons of water into the wash bucket after cleaning out the bucket first (the 3 gallons doesn’t matter but 4 gallons is what I use as the amount of water to use with a certain amount of soap in the 5 gallon wash bucket… best way to mark the 4 gallons is to, when bucket is first used, measure out 4 gallons using either 32oz. bottles, gallon of milk, etc., then once the 4 gallons of water are in the bucket, mark off the level by making a small cut inside the bucket, placing some water-proof tape, etc… once that’s done once you can easily fill to the specified level in the future)
    4. Pour about 2-3 ounces of the car wash soap into the wash bucket (most manufacturers call for 0.5-1.0 oz. of soap per gallon of water, so always follow directions as specified on the bottle of soap)
    5. Now turn on the shut-off valve, and set the nozzle to a high pressure stream
    6. Pour more water in with the high pressure stream, moving the nozzle all around the bucket in order to dilute all the soap solution you just placed inside.
    7. The soap will start bubbling and bubbles will eventually start to overflow in the bucket… stop at this point, put the bucket aside (away from the car because you will first wash the wheels, tires and wheel wells, as well as rinse off some loose dirt, and you don’t want that getting into the buckets of water… at this point you might not be at 4 gallons but it’s ok, as you’ll fill up the rest in step 1 of the actual wash process)
    8. Place both wash mitts inside the wash bucket and push them down to soak in the soap & water solution
    9. Now you can fill the rinse bucket with about 4 gallons of water and set it next to the wash bucket

    (NOTE: If it’s not possible to set the buckets far enough from the vehicle while doing the pre-wash, like in a very tight garage, skip steps 1-9 until after the pre-wash)


    Pre-Wash:

    1. Take the wheel brush and spray it just a bit with the nozzle (only enough so it has some water on the bristles)
    2. Take the wheel cleaner (these are usually diluted and placed into spray bottles) and spray the wheel generously to cover the entire wheel surface.
    3. While the wheel cleaner is doing its job on the wheel surface, grab the all purpose cleaner (another product usually diluted to a certain ratio with water and placed in spray bottle) and spray the tire and wheel wells
    4. Use the wheel brush to clean the face of the wheel, then the other brush for the inside of the wheel (many wheels allow you to reach the inside through the spokes, while many do not, so do what you can)
    5. Use a tire brush to scrub the tire clean
    6. Use a multi-purpose brush to scrub down the wheel wells (this will be impossible on many sports cars and even some sedans… solution is to either lift the car and extend the spring to gain some room and/or use a damp terry towel (in addition to the APC) to scrub down under there)
    7. Rinse everything off with a high pressure stream of water and repeat if necessary
    8. Rinse the entire vehicle with high pressure, removing as much loose dirt as possible
    *9. Spray lower panels lightly with either a bug & tar remover or a cleaner like P21S Total Auto Wash and rinse down quickly after. (do this only if some heavier dirt is sticking around, usually by tire areas and front bumper)
    >9a. If necessary (if there’s bug splatter, stubborn grease, etc.) use concentrated sprays of P21S TAW over affected areas and use another mitt or grout sponge to wash and rinse off.
    10. Rinse down entire car again with high pressure and get ready for the wash.

    (NOTE 1: Amount of product (wheel cleaner, APC) used and amount of work required will depend on how dirty the wheels, tires and wheel wells are to begin with.
    NOTE 2: If paint surface is heavily soiled with something like tar, tree sap, etc., step 9 will be necessary even for a maintenance wash, after which it can be decided to either do a light clay and polish to clean up any defects caused by the stubborn dirt and removal of that dirt, or simply wax and wait until the next correction)


    Wash:

    1. Bring both buckets closer to the vehicle and spray another high pressure stream into the wash bucket to fill it up to about 4 gallons and agitate any soap that has settled. Now the wash begins.
    *2. Use P21S TAW diluted 1:1 with water and spray half of the roof. (Keep using this on every section prior to washing that section to aid in removal of any previous wax build up)
    3. Take one mitt (doesn’t matter which) and wash the half of the roof onto which the TAW was sprayed… use very light pressure and go in a back and forth and/or left to right motion.
    4. Take the nozzle and rinse off the area you just washed (if it’s warm or hot outside, especially if the sun is out, rinse the entire car quickly when rinsing the ‘just washed’ section… this will keep water spots away)
    5. Take the mitt you just used, rinse it all around with fairly high pressure from the nozzle, then place it into the rinse bucket and leave it there.
    6. Take the mitt out of the rinse bucket, spray it very well with the nozzle at high pressure all around to remove any dirt it just picked up, then toss it inside the wash bucket.
    >6a. An alternative would be to wash the next section with the other mitt, then after both mitts are placed in the rinse bucket and after the next ‘just washed’ section is rinsed off, rinse off both mitts with the nozzle, place them in the wash bucket, and start over
    7. Wash the other half of the roof using steps 2-6 above.
    8. Wash one half or one quarter of the hood using steps 2-6.
    9. Finish hood using steps 2-6 by either doing the other half or the other 3 quarters one by one.
    10. Wash trunk using steps 2-6 above.
    11. Wash upper panels (front fender, front door, rear door, rear fender, first on one side, then the other) using steps 2-6 mentioned above and concentrating on sections similar in size to sections mentioned above.
    12. Once done with upper panels, start with the lower panels on plan on finishing on the most soiled area.
    13. Once done washing all panels, take one of the mitts (or a third mitt, meant for dirtier work) and quickly run on the underside of fenders (usually there’s a 1/4” or 1/2” bend going from panel into the wheel well by each wheel.
    14. Put away the mitts and rinse down the entire car, starting from top to bottom and concentrating on the door, trunk, and hood jambs to get any soap and dirt out.
    15. Set the nozzle on a very slow stream of water and run it slowly over the entire vehicle… this will help sheet off much of the water, leaving very little to be dried off.
    16. Move onto drying.
    (NOTE: using the two mitts as described assumes both mitts are equally washed later and either can be used on the paint surface during the next wash… if more care is given to the mitt for upper panels, then the two should stay separate throughout the process, starting by not placing both into the water and soap solution in step 8 during preparation, rather once done with the upper panels, that mitt should be put away and the mitt for lower panels put in the wash bucket to start washing lower panels)
    Last edited by Zaks; 05-28-2009 at 12:50 PM.
    -Ivan

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    This is as a follow up to the above post with process & techniques.
    These are basically products I use and think do a great job for their intended use. I'll edit the post with comments for every product later and probably add some more products as I think of them... Oh and these two places are pretty much the only 2 where I order from, with the exception of autogeek.net for a few things. Here's the first draft of the list...

    Wash:

    Sponge, mitt, etc:
    -Detailed Image Sheepskin Wash Mitt

    Soap:
    Chemical Guys Citrus Wash & Gloss
    Chemical Guys Citrus Wash & Clear
    Meguiar’s Gold Class


    Wheels:
    P21S Total Auto Wash
    P21S Gel Wheel Cleaner
    Meguiar’s Wheel Brightener

    Degreasers:
    Stoner Tarminator
    Meguiar’s All Purpose Cleaner+


    Dry:

    Detailed Image Waffle Weave Drying Towel

    QD:
    Meguiar’s #34 Final Inspection


    Clay:

    Meg’s Smooth Surface Clay
    Meg’s Blue Mild Clay
    Meg’s Red Aggressive Clay
    Meg’s purple heavy cut clay
    Clay Magic Fine Grade
    Clay Magic Medium Grade


    Polish:

    Menzerna:
    Final Polish II
    PO85RD Finishing Polish
    PO106fa Ceramic Clear Coat Polish
    PO203S Power Finish
    PO83 Super Intensive Polish
    Power Gloss

    Meguiar’s: all can be found HERE..
    M105 Ultra Cut Compound
    M95 Speed Cut Compound
    M83
    M205
    M80
    M82
    Meg’s 151 Paint Reconditioning Cream
    Meg’s PlastX for plastic
    Meg’s ScrachX



    Klasse All-In-One

    Plexus Plastic Polish


    Seal:

    Sealant:
    Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
    Menzerna FMJ
    Meguiar’s #21 Synthetic Sealant

    Wax:
    P21S Concours Carnauba Wax
    Natty’s Blue Paste Wax
    P21S 100% Carnauba Wax
    Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax
    Meg’s #26 Yellow wax
    Meg’s NXT Paste Wax 2.0


    Leather:

    Lexol Cleaner
    Lexol Conditioner
    Leatherique Prestine Clean
    Leatherique Rejuvenator Oil


    Glass:

    Stoner Invisible Glass


    Tires:

    Meg’s NXT Insane Shine Aerosol
    Meg’s Endurance High Gloss Gel


    Trim:

    Poorboy’s Natural Look
    Black WOW
    Meguiar’s Hyper Dressing


    Interior:

    303 Aerospace Protectant

    303 Fabric & Vinyl Cleaner
    303 Cleaner & Spot remover
    303 Fabric Guard
    Meg’s Quick Interior Detailer


    Tools:

    Makita 9227 Rotary Buffer
    Flex XC 3401 Random Orbital
    Meguiar’s G110 random orbital
    Porter Cable 7424 Random Orbital
    Grit Guard
    Pad conditioning brush
    Pad cleaning tool
    Wetsanding stuff
    Plastic razor blades


    Pads:

    Meguiar’s:
    Individual & six-pack Soft Buff 6.5" pads... 7006, 8006, 9006

    Lake Country:
    Purple Foamed Wool 6.5” Pad
    Black Foam 6.5” pad
    Blue Foam 6.5” pad
    White Foam 6.5” pad
    Orange Foam 6.5” pad
    Last edited by Zaks; 05-28-2009 at 12:49 PM.
    -Ivan

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    Dang. That was just what I was looking for. Great guide! Many thanks. One question... you did not specify a "best-case" temperature for the entire process. If you are forced to clean the car outdoors instead of inside a garage, direct sunlight on a warm day works against you, doesn't it (drying car too fast)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewDFW View Post
    Dang. That was just what I was looking for. Great guide! Many thanks. One question... you did not specify a "best-case" temperature for the entire process. If you are forced to clean the car outdoors instead of inside a garage, direct sunlight on a warm day works against you, doesn't it (drying car too fast)?
    You're actually asking two good questions with that... one is the sun is in fact working against you (in addition to working outside not being ideal for polishing) and also what temperature polishes work well with...

    I highly suggest working inside, because no matter how nice of a day it is (sun or no sun) you're more than likely to encounter something in the air dropping down on your pad or paint when polishing, which might cause horrible swirls, sometimes irreparable... as for the sun when washing, definitely try and do it early in the morning, or late in the evening, when it's not strong, as it will leave water spots... these can usually be easily cleaned off, right after drying, with a m/f towel and some QD, but you want to touch the paint as little as possible, so try and keep the spots off to begin with...

    Now as far as at what temperature you should polish... many polishes will react differently and have a different "range" but in general stay away from hot and humid days (definitely don't polish in the sun, and not only because of particles you might encounter that will screw up your paint, but sun will dry out the polish very easily) as well as really cold days (anything below 45-50*F I've found to ruin polish performance)... ideally you would be in a closed area with good ventilation and about 65-70*F, so the more you go away from that environment the worse it will be (not bad, but worse, I hope you get what I mean)...

    Oh and this is all what I've experienced working here in Chicago year round almost, so I'm not sure about other areas/climates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lecchilo View Post
    You're actually asking two good questions with that... one is the sun is in fact working against you ... and also what temperature polishes work well with
    Thanks very much. Again, terrific info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewDFW View Post
    Thanks very much. Again, terrific info.
    Np man feel fee to ask whatever, here, email, etc..
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    nice write up. I'm in Waukegan. Was supposed to get your old polisher, but oh well ordered one Tuesday finally. Tired of hand detailing. Will have to check out some of your work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Court M3 View Post
    nice write up. I'm in Waukegan. Was supposed to get your old polisher, but oh well ordered one Tuesday finally. Tired of hand detailing. Will have to check out some of your work
    Yea I remember.. sorry about that bro, I have yet to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lecchilo View Post
    Np man feel fee to ask whatever, here, email, etc..
    Forgot to mention in last reply... If you have not already done so, please consider a visit to 1Addicts.com. There are lots of enthusiastic BMW 1-Series newbies - as well as many wise veterans - who would benefit from your advice re. wash, wax, detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewDFW View Post
    Forgot to mention in last reply... If you have not already done so, please consider a visit to 1Addicts.com. There are lots of enthusiastic BMW 1-Series newbies - as well as many wise veterans - who would benefit from your advice re. wash, wax, detail.
    I'll look into it as soon as I find some time... feel free to repost this over there if you're a member already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lecchilo View Post
    I'll look into it as soon as I find some time... feel free to repost this over there if you're a member already.
    Do my best. Priv Msg me if/when you join up at 1Addicts.com; great group and good contacts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewDFW View Post
    Do my best. Priv Msg me if/when you join up at 1Addicts.com; great group and good contacts.
    Just joined (same nick) so I'll post it up in a few mins...
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    Product list finally updated, plus a more detailed washing procedure added to first post
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    great thread

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    soooo useful. awesome info. my one question for you is how to really clean/repair oxidation and age-fogging in the headlights?? my e36 325i looks great...except for the damn headlight casings..

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    Quote Originally Posted by polo2006 View Post
    great thread
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Lucky View Post
    soooo useful. awesome info. my one question for you is how to really clean/repair oxidation and age-fogging in the headlights?? my e36 325i looks great...except for the damn headlight casings..
    Sanding and polishing is the only way... I'm actually doing a pretty detailed DIY for that, but in short, you want to wet sand the plastic starting with 600 and ending with 3000 or 4000, then polishing with a very light polish or something like PlastX
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    stickey this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M///BMW View Post
    stickey this.
    +1.
    This should be something that all beginners need to read over.


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    +1 for later reading

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    Thumbs up Great Post, 3 thumbs up lol

    Awesome Job, Post is detailed and as stated above "something beginners need to read", I finally ordered a porter cable 7424xp along with some micropolish, I can't wait to try it out on my baby (02 e46 m3) ///Alpine n Pearl White

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmvvwhore View Post
    Awesome Job, Post is detailed and as stated above "something beginners need to read", I finally ordered a porter cable 7424xp along with some micropolish, I can't wait to try it out on my baby (02 e46 m3) ///Alpine n Pearl White
    Good to see this is still helping some out. I'm currently working on an extremely detailed guide that will be offered online pretty soon hopefully. Stay tuned and enjoy this until then I guess haha.

    Thanks for the kind words.
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    Question for ya... My clearcoat is peeling in a few places (edge of hood and mirrors for some reason?). Call them dime sized marks or smaller. Am I safe to polish in those areas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpDarks View Post
    Sweeeettttt

    Question for ya... My clearcoat is peeling in a few places (edge of hood and mirrors for some reason?). Call them dime sized marks or smaller. Am I safe to polish in those areas?
    I would not polish near failing clearcoat - you are likely to further compromise the surrounding clear and make your problem worse.

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