Pinnacle or 303 Aerospace Protectorant?

[imaginos]

If you've seen this post in another BMW forum, you are not seeing things. I posted this in another forum but either no one has the experience using both Pinnacle and 303, or simply no one wants to answer. Perhaps there is some knowlegeable and experienced folks here that would care to comment.

Last weekend I applied the Zaino treatment to the new jet black 335. This weekend I finished up interior detailing with a wipe down of the vinyl dash, burlwood trim, rubber seals with Mothers Protectorant. I've always trusted Mothers products, and I'm sure it will do what it promises, but the sheen it leaves is a bit shinier than what I like.

Last weekend I applied the Zaino treatment to the new jet black 335. This weekend I finished up interior detailing with a wipe down of the vinyl dash, burlwood trim, rubber seals with Mothers Protectorant. I've always trusted Mothers products, and I'm sure it will do what it promises, but the sheen it leaves is a bit shinier than what I like.
So last night I started looking up alternative products and found the Pinnacle Vinyl & Rubber protectorant and 303 Aerospace protectorant, both which promise a less "shiny" appearance.

Is one product better than the other? Seems like both have great testimonials. The only "concern" I have with 303 Aerospace is that, in my area (St. Louis), it seems to be sold only in marine shops or hardware stores. None of the auto accessorie stores or dealers carry this brand. Indeed, on 303's website "where to buy", it lists mostly RV and marine outlets, and hardware stores. Not that it really means anything, after all, Zaino is only available online and Pinnacle appears to only be available online as well. Just struck me as odd that something a lot of folks use on their car is distributed mostly via these types of outlets. Possibly because of the need for marine vehicles to have high UV protection?

I have burlwood trim in the 335. Does anyone know what this trim is made out of? My guess is plastic. If so, which of these products would be better for protecting it?

For those of you who have used both, does one have a more pleasant odor than the other? Does one have a more matte sheen than the other? How about attracting dust?

And finally, I have used Mequiar's quick Interior Detail spray for some time now on another vehicle and really like it because it is easy to work with on a daily/weekly basis, doesn't have "build up" or leave behind a shine. However, it is not a protectorant, more of a quick detail when things get dusty. I figure I would apply Pinnacle or 303 once a month and use Meg's quick Interior Detail the rest of the time. Does anyone think either Pinnacle or 303 have issues with the Meg product being wiped on top of it? Just curious.

Thanks in advance,
imaginos

[bimmerfiver]

Burlwood = wood. I use Pledge. I also use Lexol Vinylex wipes, works great:



VINYLEX is a patented liquid vinyl protectant intended for use in the care and conservation of vinyl, rubber and plastic. Its purpose is to clean, protect, renew, preserve and improve the appearance of the polymer surface being treated. VINYLEX is a new, state of the art, protectant including DH60 UV sunscreen Traditional vinyl protectants have hovered around the first patented vinyl product, trying to copy it while staying away from possible infringement on its formula. As a result, the market is full of poor imitations of a product created 20 years ago. These protectants do not penetrate to clean, preserve or protect as VINYLEX does.











What is Burl Wood?




Ads by Google

• Hardwood, Lumber, Burl

Collector's Specialty Woods: exotic burl, building & furniture stock

• Single Tree Stakes System

Easy install, reusable, attractive Professional Industry Standard

• Wood Leaves

Find Wood Leaves at Great Prices. Shop, Compare, and Save at Pronto.

• Clothes Tree

Find Clothes Tree Online. Shop & Save at Target.com Today.

[FONT='Verdana', sans-serif]X

[/FONT]

Close this window

Burl wood is a type of wood used by artists to create sculptures and other items, such as clocks and even some forms of furniture. Burl wood is highly prized by artists because of its unique shapes and ring patterns. Burl wood is a type of fast growing, abnormal growth found on some trees. Burl wood grows because the tree has experienced some sort of environmental stress or damage. This is often caused by either a fungal attack or an attack by insects.
The number of trees that produce burl wood is quite low. In addition, certain areas tend to create more burl wood than others, because all or many of the trees in a particular location are likely to be attacked by the same fungus or insects. Certain species also tend to be more susceptible to attacks and, therefore, more likely to develop burl wood. For this reason, certain types of burl wood are more rare and prized than others.
Often, a tree that has developed burl wood is still quite healthy. In fact, many trees with burl wood can go on to live for many more years. Other trees develop burl wood offshoots that are so large and heavy that they create additional stress on the tree and can cause the tree to die.
When used in woodcrafting, burl wood is removed from the tree, preferably after the tree has already died in order to avoid killing the tree. It is then cut open in order to review the pattern inside. Sometimes, a single burl wood offshoot can produce several different pieces for an artist to work with.
Some burl wood offshoots develop regular growth rings that simply grow at an accelerated rate. This type of burl wood is not as sought after by artists as other forms of burl wood, because the patterns on this wood are not as interesting to look at. The majority of woodworking artists prefer burl wood that grows in irregular patterns that swirl and contain what are referred to as eyes – small spots that develop on the wood. While pieces with unusual patterns are the most desired form of burl wood, they are also the most difficult to work with. This is because the irregular patterns of burl wood make it harder to saw, chisel, and cut without splitting the wood or accidentally cutting it in the wrong direction.




http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-burl-wood.htm


BURL
A burl is a wartlike, deformed growth on the trunk or root and sometimes even the branches of a tree, caused by (1) an injury to, or (2) and infection in, the tree just under the bark, or (3) the existance of an unformed bud which has all the genetic material necessary to grow a full branch, or even a whole tree, but which for some reason did not grow properly. In any case, the result is that the tree cells divide and grow excessively and unevenly in a process somewhat analogous to cancer cells in a mammal. Burls are sometimes called tumors on wood, although I'm not aware of their ever being fatal. Trees with burls continue to grow otherwise normally.

Continued growth follows the contour of the original deformity, producing all manner of twists, swirls and knots in the wood fiber. Usually, this results in wood that has a spectacular pattern that can be used to great effect in woodworking, and sometimes it is also accompanied by the creation in the burl of dormant buds which create "eyes" that make the burl even more spectacular when worked.

Burl wood is usually darker than the rest of the tree and in some cases (Paela comes to mind) may be a significantly different color altogether. Because of the diverse grain direction, burl wood cannot be relied on for strength, but that's of little consequence since burls are prized for beauty, not strength.

Burl wood can be difficult to dry without cracking. Sometimes there are bark inclusions in burls, and also sometimes gum pockets, either of which can cause surface defects when the burl is worked. In some species of wood, gum pockets are common in any burl found on the tree.

Burls come in all sizes and shapes from golf-ball and smaller to hundreds of pounds of massive growth on the side of a large tree. Burls as large as 4 feet by 8 feet have been reported as have trees with hundreds of small burls. On really large trees, such as the redwood, burls commonly exist that are large enough to be used to create veneer. Burl veneer frequently does not stay flat after cutting and has to be moistened and clampled flat before and/or during application.

"Cat's Paw" and "cluster burl" are a couple of commonly identifed types of burl figure. Cat's paw is frequently found in cherry and cluster burls are found in a number of species. Most often, burls have no sub-designation and occur in a large number of species. Common burl species include redwood, oak, ash, maple, madrone, elm and walnut. Some exotics with very popular burls are mappa (poplar burl), thuya and imbuya, and there are MANY more.

For a look at some burls, click here: BURLS

http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/_figure.htm

[milobloom242]

I've used the Pinnacle cleaner and protectant, and Aerospace 303 protectant. The cleaner is excellent, and so are both protectants. After almost 6 yrs in So Cal weather, my interior looks as good as new. I suppose 303 is supposed to have the most UV protection, but I certainly can't tell. 303 is essentially odorless and the Pinnacle has a slight coconut scent to it. 303 is a great coating for the door/window seals as well, by the way, to keep them squeak free. It seems to work better for that than the Pinnacle. They both provide matte finishes (I can't tell the difference between them) and both do not attract dust.

The wood trim is wood but it's coated with a plastic. Either protectant will be fine.

[MJFX328]

Wax is the best for wood trim. Makes it look brand new and glossy.

For vinyl, 303 is great and is not shiny at all (I prefer the semi-gloss of Vinylex sometimes)

303 is used by many boats and rafts etc. It is not in the mainstream for cars but smart people figured it out.

[nickdeck]

imaginos,

I haven't tried the Pinnacle cleaner, but I'll second the recommendations for 303 Protectant. I picked some up the other day and just used it for the first time on my dash. The dash (I just got the car a few weeks ago), from what I could tell, hadn't been treated with anything, so it looked kinda dry. The 303 doesn't leave a shine, but it does leave a nice "conditioned" look.

I'm at Lake of the Ozarks and found it at the West Marine here. If there's one of those near St. Louis, I'm sure you could find it there too.

[imaginos]

Great, thanks to everyone who responded. I knew I'd get some good feedback here!

I have a West Marine near me, so I'll pick some 303 up.

nick deck, I too have only had the car for a couple weeks. I'm really itching to get the break in period over and let it go. In fact, my first "flight" will probably be a visit to family in Horseshoe Bend at the Lake in a few weeks.

Thanks again to all!

imaginos

[nickdeck]

In fact, my first "flight" will probably be a visit to family in Horseshoe Bend at the Lake in a few weeks.

Cool. Honk or wave if you see a Steel Blue 325i. There are only a couple of them around here, that I've seen, anyway.

[bmw325001]

I tried out the 3030 Aerospace protectant this weekend and I had to get it from a RV parts place. It works excellent and does not leave any residue. My dash looks like brand new. I recommend it highly!

[Steve530]

The wood trim of my 2001 530 is supposed to be wood, but it is either coated with plastic or many layers of clear finish. It is much closer to paint than wood or vinyl. I use Klasse AIO on this trim. Zaino would probably work.

[Jen@autogeek]

303 has the most UV protection. It leaves a nice clean looking finish. Pinnacle is a great protectant too. It smells really good and leaves a nice finish as well. You can't go wrong with either one really.

[rafimos]

ive actually used Poorboys Natural Look on the trim and it leaves about the same finish as the 303 iirc.....its a nice matte look and has uv absorbers as well


Jen any of your great insite into these two/three products vs one another?

[lhgubi]

I just received a box of free samples from 303. They charged $5 for shipping and handling. Will try it tomorrow. It only took 5 days.

[nickdeck]

How'd you get it? Got a link?

[Eurospec]

Originally Posted by nickdeck

How'd you get it? Got a link?

Right on their front page. LINKED

[nickdeck]

Thanks, Brudda!