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I am thinking about getting the Bilstien BTS kit since my suspension is dying. And I wanna get new wheels to go with them. I love the M Contours and I think I want to try to find a used set. Will my car handle better if I use a staggered set or not? I dont care about not being able to rotate the tires.
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I think it's worse handling, not sure, ask in the wheel section, I have a set of staggered e46 m3 wheels and they rub a lot and I think that for some reason i'm higher then stock. It all depends on the offsets, the people in the wheel forum are very helpfull.
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Ok, thanks.
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Staggered wheels will make your car understeer and handle worse.
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curious, what does staggered wheels mean?
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wider wheels in the back then the front. Like 8.5" rears with 7.5" frontsOriginally Posted by 1995325ise36
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very few cars can handle staggered setups from the factory. Mostly super and near supercars. To make a staggered set up work on our cars, you would want to increase the diameter of the rear swaybar to make up for the traction the wider tyres would give you.
Personally, stick with same sizes front and rear, it is easier.
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Non staggered FTW
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Staggard setups are for cars that you park at show meets. They go well with 5 screens and 3 12"s.
Non-staggard is for a car that you may want to drive like it's supposed to be driven.
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True, from what i've heard and seen, staggered setups cause you to understeer more. And since these cars already have a problem with understeering, i wouldn't recommend it. You could get some wider tires for the rear though, that will give you a little more grip for dd and spirited runs, but then you can't rotate the wheels. Since your lowering the car, your rears are going to have a lot more negative camber, which eats up the insides of the tires. Get the same size wheels and tires so you can rotate. Thats what i did and my tires are lasting pretty good.
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Well, non-staggered it is then... thanks guys!
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First of all, it's "staggered", not "staggard". Secondly, if what you said were actually true, then I guess every true sports car (which are all staggered, i.e. Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches, etc. etc.) should visit the local Circuit City to get a bunch of cheap tv screens and subwoofers installed in them?
Also, I guess you must know more than all the BMW suspension engineers who staggered the stock OEM wheels to begin with, eh?
Finally, your last comment makes no sense at all. Can you name a single car w/ factory OEM non-staggered wheels that has ever outrun a staggered sports car (i.e. GT3) through Nordschleife? or any other laptime-measured circuit for that matter? Probably not.
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^ You need to read the tire&wheel forum oftener.
Old thread, move on.
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