Whats E36 M3 Competition

[redfoot]

Originally Posted by creeves328

Well, I can tell you 250-300lbs removed from an e36 and you remain daily driver suitability. Course, this is all a matter of perception, but from the drivers view, little has changed in my car.

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Off the top of my head I could probably come up with 200 unnecessary pounds also. The next 200-300 lbs though is gonna seriously eat into the dd ability of "relatively stock" e39.

When you start stripping seats/interior pieces it ceases to become a reasonable dd, imo.

I'm not even sure if you stripped the back and passenger seat out an e39 you're still gonna hit that other 200-300 lb mark. IIrc, a passenger sport seat is ~80lbs and the rear bottom/back another ~75 or so.

Doesn't matter anyhow, he isn't coming back to back-up his claim.

[DavidsM3]

F40 with modded up turbos may have a chance.

[xear0]

Originally Posted by M3in

what do used shricks go for these days?

i wouldnt know....i bought mine new

[M3in]

i want cams so bad

[eurrofreak]

With these guys you can get them at a 15% discount with a bmw cca membership and get them shipped for free.
I sold my slightly used ones for $850 about two months ago.
http://www.harrisonmotorsports.com/s...oducts_id=1263

[God]

Originally Posted by creeves328

Well, I can tell you 250-300lbs removed from an e36 and you remain daily driver suitability. Course, this is all a matter of perception, but from the drivers view, little has changed in my car.

Speaking of lightening.. Tonight I ran a stock e36 328is against my 328is. We started @ 60mph and he took a huge jump on me (I was still in 5th at the time), but ended with me being about 4CLs lead by ~105mph. Lightening helps significantly as the advantage is always present, unlike most mods which target the upper RPM band.

How did you get down to that weight, you must have nothing in your car.

[fishforlife]

there are so many options that someone can choose to take the first couple hundred pounds out. i find it ironic that im just as surprised at the people that cant fathom a couple hundred pounds from a car as they are at the task its self.
i conservatively have an addition 500lbs missing from my car.

[black318i]

Have you actually weighed your car and what did you do?

[fishforlife]

use this link below and play around with what kind of power you think my s52 with 3" catback exhaust, obd-i intake manifold, and intake makes. then keep messing with the weight field till you get a vehicle that traps 112.40. this will give you an idea of how light one can get an e36 with a driver. since then i have removed another 100+lbs
http://www.jcalculator.com/?c=1_4_mile_calculator

[black318i]

I wouldn't trust that method to be accurate. I put some fairly accurate HP and weight numbers in and the trap speed is off by quite a bit. I adjusted the weight match the trap and the weight was off by about 300 lbs. For your car I used 230 whp which I think is on the generous side and to trap 112 it said your car would have to weigh 2100 lbs.

[fishforlife]

those calculators are pretty accurate. so yeah one needs to believe either i make more power than 230 or my car is lighter.

[redfoot]

Originally Posted by fishforlife

use this link below and play around with what kind of power you think my s52 with 3" catback exhaust, obd-i intake manifold, and intake makes. then keep messing with the weight field till you get a vehicle that traps 112.40. this will give you an idea of how light one can get an e36 with a driver. since then i have removed another 100+lbs
http://www.jcalculator.com/?c=1_4_mile_calculator

380 whp/4400lbs with 13.1@103.

That calculator is (nearly) worthless.

[black318i]

Really what numbers are you using? Even at 250 WHP (Which your car is not making) I had to adjust the weight down to 2250 lbs to get to calculator to figure 112 mph. No way you were able to remove over 1100 lbs off your car.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1185804

Stock my car makes ~185 WHP and weighs ~3550 lbs with a driver and will trap 97 mph. The calculator says 87.

[fishforlife]

your arguments are unfounded as you, nor anyone really, has any idea what extent i have taken weight reduction and also the custom mods i have done to my engine.
i provided some data in the form of trap speed and people can extrapolate what they want from it.

[black318i]

Unfounded? I used fairly accurate REAL data and your beloved calculator is WAY off. You just posted your mods. Unless you left some major things out I highly doubt your car can put down much more than 230whp if your even getting there at all. I'm curious to hear what your weight reduction mods are. Not saying you didn't drop 500-600 LBS, but your car would have to be close to a shell at that point or you spent some serious cash on lightweight parts. Seriously prove me wrong. What number are you using in the calculator and what are your power and weight mods.

[cky751]

Originally Posted by black318i

Really what numbers are you using? Even at 250 WHP (Which your car is not making) I had to adjust the weight down to 2250 lbs to get to calculator to figure 112 mph. No way you were able to remove over 1100 lbs off your car.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1185804

Stock my car makes ~185 WHP and weighs ~3550 lbs with a driver and will trap 97 mph. The calculator says 87.

hey mang, whether or not you believe fishy, he probably has one of the fastest N/A e36's around.

okay I will play, but all cars are individuals.

'04 350z
s2k
g35
is300
e90 335i
'06 gt mustang
stock evo
stock sti
'07 civic si (lol)
944 porsche turbo
e30 m50swap (all day)
540i
e46 m3
apr stg. 1 b5 S4
and a tone of ricers.

[black318i]

I never said his car does not trap 112 or that he was able to drop 500-600 lbs. My point is that calculator is way off. If he is using it to calculate his weight reduction based on trap speed at least one of his figures is off by more than just a little.

[fishforlife]

fair enough.
these calculators should not be taken literal but rather provide a rough idea of whats needed to achieve similar results.

[black318i]

Hey fish I noticed one of your vids was on Rt 193. Are you still in Cali?

[bronzebbs]

-E46 M3; intake/exhaust
-07 WRX STi; N1 Style muffler, FMIC
-Both AP1 and AP2 S2000s; i/h/e on both
-E34 M5; Stock

[creeves328]

Originally Posted by God

How did you get down to that weight, you must have nothing in your car.

Its pretty spartan behind the front seats..

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...7&postcount=32

Originally Posted by black318i

Stock my car makes ~185 WHP and weighs ~3550 lbs with a driver and will trap 97 mph. The calculator says 87.

This an e36? That's a BIG driver for 3550lbs!!!

I suspect my 96 328is weighed around 3070lbs stock, w/full tank (no driver), judging by what I removed from it. Having a 96' made it somewhat lighter than the later years, as it didn't come with ASC, side airbags, etc..

[m3chaser]

That calculator is very far off to be honest. My car makes 220rwhp and weighs 3130lbs with me in it and a half tank of gas and the calculator shows a 14.1@96mph. My times in my sig prove otherwise. .7ths and 4mph are a BIG difference.

[black318i]

Originally Posted by creeves328

This an e36? That's a BIG driver for 3550lbs!!!

I suspect my 96 328is weighed around 3070lbs stock, w/full tank (no driver), judging by what I removed from it. Having a 96' made it somewhat lighter than the later years, as it didn't come with ASC, side airbags, etc..

Sorry for the confusion it's an 05 Legacy GT.

[mo gun e36]

i smoked a m3 aswell as a 96 mustang gt

[m3chaser]

Originally Posted by mo gun e36

i smoked a m3 aswell as a 96 mustang gt

Hmm what mods?