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    Starter question.....help!!

    HELP.....Can someone tell me if a starter for a US 1979 633 will fit for my 1979 euro 635? If not what starter will work? I bet the walking, talking, breathing BMW book of knowledge, the most famous of them.....George, you will know.

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    Did you compare part #'s on realoem.com?

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    guys are using the Bosch starter from an 92-95 530. they are smaller and easier to install and have a good bit more power
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    To answer the question: yes. And as mentioned; you have options.

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    The starter Bert is referring to is the Bosch SR441X.
    I installed one into my car about 4 years ago and have been very happy with it. You can see in the attached pic how much smaller it is than the stock one.
    T.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Marshall View Post
    The starter Bert is referring to is the Bosch SR441X. I installed one into my car about 4 years ago and have been very happy with it. You can see in the attached pic how much smaller it is than the stock one. T.
    It's also a little more powerful, a direct bolt-on, and should you ever need to change it again - you can do it without pulling the intake manifold.

    I need to get one for my '85.
    Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Marshall View Post
    The starter Bert is referring to is the Bosch SR441X.
    I installed one into my car about 4 years ago and have been very happy with it. You can see in the attached pic how much smaller it is than the stock one.
    T.
    Did the same update on 2 of my Alfa's, and those starters look just like the Alfa ones, too. The later/smaller starters have a reduction drive built into the nose, and are both lighter and more powerful. IIRC, it's 1.2 hp versus 0.7. Almost 10 years with no reliability issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcains View Post
    Did the same update on 2 of my Alfa's, and those starters look just like the Alfa ones, too. The later/smaller starters have a reduction drive built into the nose, and are both lighter and more powerful. IIRC, it's 1.2 hp versus 0.7. Almost 10 years with no reliability issues.
    It's about $150.

    I do r think the power difference is that huge.
    Tom
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    I got mine in 2009 for USD 75.00 + shipping and didn't have to return the core. It was a rebuild though just like this one from Autohausz AZ.
    Prices have certainly gone up !

    http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...d=4152@Starter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Marshall View Post
    I got mine in 2009 for USD 75.00 + shipping and didn't have to return the core. It was a rebuild though just like this one from Autohausz AZ.
    Prices have certainly gone up !

    http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...d=4152@Starter
    Will it fit a Euro M635?
    Randall Morin
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    Randall,
    If we do a little research on RealOEM we can see the following:

    '85 North American spec 635 (my car):
    Exchange Starter Motor: P/N 12411272150
    Starter Motor: P/N 12411466093

    '84 M635
    Exchange Starter Motor: P/N 12411272150
    Starter Motor: P/N 12411720635

    So, since it has been proven that the SR441X fits in my 635 and since the M635 and my car share the same Exchange Starter Motor (whatever that means) P/N then I believe that the SR441X will be compatible with your car. I know that Lee Highsmith demo'ed at a Sharkfest the installation of a starter that I think was the SR441X (I wasn't there) into an M car so maybe he or another M owner can pipe in with counsel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linwood Mingis View Post
    HELP.....Can someone tell me if a starter for a US 1979 633 will fit for my 1979 euro 635? If not what starter will work? I bet the walking, talking, breathing BMW book of knowledge, the most famous of them.....George, you will know.
    Yes. But you want Bosch SR441X. Smaller and a bit more powerful unit. Direct bolt in.
    '84 Euro 635
    '88 M6 (Gone but not forgotten)

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    Thanks guys. My starter seems fine but I will file this info in my folder of useful tidbits for future use if needed, hopefully not.
    Randall Morin
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