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    What do you consider a "fast" car now days?

    Its always changing, but with all the high HP cars off the show room floor these days, what would you consider a "fast" car for a street-able "daily" driver?

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    Anything under 11 is definitely not a daily driver lol

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    I would still say anything under 14 is a quick car, 12-13 a fast car, and in the 11s is really Damn fast.

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    Those 0-60 times are a little slow. I think modern cars are a little faster.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1 View Post
    I would still say anything under 14 is a quick car, 12-13 a fast car, and in the 11s is really Damn fast.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1 View Post
    I would still say anything under 14 is a quick car, 12-13 a fast car, and in the 11s is really Damn fast.
    Agreed.

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    I will also add, I don't think the definition of a fast car/quick car has changed that much in the last 15-20 years, just the amount of cars that are hitting those numbers has increased significantly.

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    Several years ago I was looking for a fun daily driver. I was really interested in 540i's until my mom got one of the Accords that had just come out with 270 horsepower. Suddenly the maintenance intensive V8 became a lot less appealing.

    These days I would say a car that traps 105 is a quick car, and over 115mph is fast.

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    11s = fast. 12s is quick, 13s are meh
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    I think I'm missing something here. What are the poll numbers referring to?
    Not so much a signature as a cry for help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montaillou View Post
    I think I'm missing something here. What are the poll numbers referring to?
    standing quarter mile times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrix2k View Post
    11s = fast. 12s is quick, 13s are meh
    I'm going to bite my tongue and just politely say I disagree. A 13-14 second quarter mile will make most people need clean underware. Do you have any idea what it takes to run a sub 12 second 1:4 mile?

    I'm heading to the drags tomorrow night with my supercharged m3. I'm hoping to crack 14. Wish me luck.

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    Good luck and I agree completely.

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    Yea id kill for 13s, even 14s would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishvt View Post

    I'm going to bite my tongue and just politely say I disagree. A 13-14 second quarter mile will make most people need clean underware. Do you have any idea what it takes to run a sub 12 second 1:4 mile?

    I'm heading to the drags tomorrow night with my supercharged m3. I'm hoping to crack 14. Wish me luck.
    Check my sig. And I'm assuming the car hooks up... Most bimmers spin down the track and make 11s realllly hard to achieve.
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    It takes a big investment of building, experience, time and money to get times much lower.

    Back in the day both the '70 Chevelle and El Camino with the LS6 engines pushing 450 hp stock....it took a good driver to break 14 seconds.

    These days it still takes a good driver and a large investment building fast street legal rods.

    Larry Larson is one of those who doesn't mind making such an investment in street legal rides.




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    '97 540i/6s will break into the 13s with a good driver... stock.


    bone stock


    14.02

    And here's an e30 that ran an 11.7 with 493 hp (500 PS). No idea if that's at the wheels or at the crank. My setup should be conservatively pushing 420 whp once complete, so yes, I might have an idea of what's involved.
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    Yes a 540i with a good driver and good to excellent conditions will break into the 13s and even faster when equipped with a supercharger. A 540i even broke into the 11s two years ago.

    Scroll down and look at the times on the 540i, M3 and the 335s M-sport and coupe. Clicking on the individual car will give the specs and verify if it's stock.

    Then click on the video link of the car type for 1/4 mile times on the 540i. http://www.dragtimes.com/last50.php

    Similar 1/4 mile time slips:

    1999 BMW 540i : 11.311 @ 121.510
    Mikko, Engine: Stock, Supercharger: yes

    2000 BMW 540i Dinan Supercharger: 12.723 @ 116.190
    Jimmy, Engine: Light alloy block/head. Supercharged V-8, Supercharger: Dinan Supercharger

    1996 BMW 540i 6 Speed: 13.405 @ 104.690
    Ultron, Engine: M62B44, Supercharger

    1997 BMW 540i base: 13.540 @ 105.400
    Darril, Engine: 4.4L V8, Supercharger: NA Turbos: NA Tires: Nexen N3000

    1995 BMW 540i : 13.605 @ 105.029
    Jon, Engine: 4.0 V8 DOHC 225,000 miles, Tires: Falken Ziex 502s 235/45/17

    2002 BMW 540i : 13.700 @ 102.400
    DailyMoronz, Engine: Stock, Tires: Hankook Z214 255-55 R16

    1996 BMW 540i 6 Speed: 13.775 @ 103.400
    Ultron, Engine: M62B44, Tires: 225/55 R16 Continental VikingContact3

    1997 BMW 540i 6 speed: 13.890 @ 105.000
    Mike, Engine: 4.4 V8, Tires: sumitumo all seasons

    1998 BMW 540i 6 speed, Nitrous: 13.908 @ 103.530
    Mr. Glenn, Engine: 4.4L V8, Supercharger: none Turbos: none Tires: stock



    1996 BMW 540i 6 Speed: 14.039 @ 101.540
    Ultron, Engine: M62B44, Tires: 225/55 R16 Continental VikingContact3

    2000 BMW 540i 6-Speed: 14.049 @ 96.930
    RA, Engine: M62TUB44, Supercharger: N/A Turbos: N/A Tires: 255/35


    1997 BMW 540i Auto: 14.197 @ 95.110
    Steve Kuska, Engine: 4.4L V8 282hp, Supercharger: No Turbos: No Tires: Dunlop Z1 star spec / General Altimax HP


    1999 BMW 540i iA: 14.277 @ 95.850
    Andy East, Engine: 4.4L V8, Tires: Pirelli PZero Nero 245/40/18

    1996 BMW 540i 6 speed: 14.298 @ 98.300
    Ultron, Tires: 225/55 Michelin Pilot


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    Nowadays I think it is all about doing more with less. It is all about efficiency, lightness and forced induction.

    I would consider something fast if it rockets you from 0 to triple digits without much drama but still fun to drive and has plenty of power in low rpms. Most automakers getting good with this, with the aid of turbos and whatnot.

    Also, I think Tesla S is what I consider fast. I like the idea of instant torque anytime. When you put your foot down, you don't need to wait for fuel to burn and rpms to rise, and power to be made. No need for transmission to downshift either. Plus, you can drive your EV all day like a lunatic and you wouldn't worry about the penalty for driving hard, since it'll cost you mere 5-10 bucks to recharge it.
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    Sub 14 second 1/4 miles don't seem that fast anymore if a $22,000 car from 1998 can run in the 12's. Heck, I think Car and Driver tested a 6 speed Accord a few years back that was comfortably in the 13's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stowe9man View Post

    Sub 14 second 1/4 miles don't seem that fast anymore if a $22,000 car from 1998 can run in the 12's. Heck, I think Car and Driver tested a 6 speed Accord a few years back that was comfortably in the 13's.
    Considering the pony cars are in the 12s now and typically cost in the high 30s to mid 40s. .. Besides c/d is optimistic sometimes. The v6 accord and v6 carry are quick, but again, it is still a quick car. A car that runs high 12s is going to be more than a handful for most drivers. Even a car that runs 13-14 will be as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1 View Post
    Considering the pony cars are in the 12s now and typically cost in the high 30s to mid 40s. .. Besides c/d is optimistic sometimes. The v6 accord and v6 carry are quick, but again, it is still a quick car. A car that runs high 12s is going to be more than a handful for most drivers. Even a car that runs 13-14 will be as well.
    Yea, take your average driver out in a sonata and go WOT all the way through first and second and they will probably start screaming.
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    My problem with this question is some cars feel extremely fast without putting down impressive numbers, and conversely some cars feel slow but are rather quick from a numbers perspective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerBreaker View Post
    My problem with this question is some cars feel extremely fast without putting down impressive numbers, and conversely some cars feel slow but are rather quick from a numbers perspective...
    I was going to mention something similar - power delivery has a large impact on what feels fast. Peaky cars don't feel fast to me.
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