Subaru BRZ or VW GTI?

[bav 325i]

Why?

Mostly the people who drive Subarus, bad haircut, huge sunglasses, monster stickers everywhere, ken block sweatshirts, those people.

[BimmerBreaker]

Mostly the people who drive Subarus, bad haircut, huge sunglasses, monster stickers everywhere, ken block sweatshirts, those people.

So you dont like something based off of your stereotypical perception of what owners of that particular thing are like? Not even about the car itself, but just because you stereotype all their drivers together and dont like them?

Guess its a good thing you didnt talk to a non-German car owner about what BMWs or Mini Cooper owners are like before you bought one

Such stupid.

[Aguerra]

Have her test drive both cars. They are drastically different it's odd to see them being compared.

[dreambig]

So you dont like something based off of your stereotypical perception of what owners of that particular thing are like? Not even about the car itself, but just because you stereotype all their drivers together and dont like them? Guess its a good thing you didnt talk to a non-German car owner about what BMWs or Mini Cooper owners are like before you bought one Such stupid.

This is a good post. I can not talk to someone about my bimmer even though I think it's a great car as my mates all have the "stereotypical Subaru", yet only one of them have stickers. Nicest blokes you'll ever meet - just because of their car choice you can't judge them

[Colo Springs E]

Have her test drive both cars. They are drastically different it's odd to see them being compared.

I see your point, but not that odd if she's attracted to both of them based on their looks (which she is), and possibly likes each of them for different reasons. Honestly, if I was in the market for a new, fun to drive car for less than $30k... I might consider both of these cars as well.

[Lowcountry M3]

GTI, and make sure she drives it like she stole it everyday

[Colo Springs E]

If I'm not mistaken, up until this new model, the GTI was always made in Germany, correct? I'm sure that will be an endless topic of discussion among VW enthusiasts.

[RENNSP0RT]

I know that many MKIV GTIs were made in Brazil.

[BimmerBreaker]

I know that many MKIV GTIs were made in Brazil.

Pretty sure MK IV Jettas and Golfs were made in Brazil, but the GTi's were still made in Germany.

[dcrothers]

The new GTI will be made in Mexico. I just saw that on a review. They said if it where made in Germany it would cost U.S. buyers over 40k.

[RENNSP0RT]

Pretty sure MK IV Jettas and Golfs were made in Brazil, but the GTi's were still made in Germany.

Some MKIVs were still made in Germany but many were made in Brazil. My 2001 GTI was made in Brazil.

[Colo Springs E]

The new GTI will be made in Mexico. I just saw that on a review. They said if it where made in Germany it would cost U.S. buyers over 40k.

Wasn't last year's model made in Germany?

[RENNSP0RT]

The MKV and MKVI GTI were made in Germany.

[Colo Springs E]

The MKV and MKVI GTI were made in Germany.

Then I find it hard to believe that the next year's model (2015) would go up by $10-15k if made in the same country as the 2014 model.

[SpeedsterBek]

I call that nonsense since MKVI golf was made in Germany for US market and it didn't cost 40k.

The prices will see a slight increase for 2015+ golf.
Also, since they'll be assembling golf for NA market in Mexico, they probably save on costs too.

[RENNSP0RT]

thank you....

now i know not to subscribe to any posts....

Exactly

[PaulE36]

Go with the FRS if your not a fan of the Subaru badge, I've owned two ae86s (rwd corollas) which is the car they took inspiration from, low power, good torque, LSD, manual transmission and rwd... How can you not like that? Test driven a FRS and I'd take an 86 any day as you can't get over the raw feeling of them. They are fun cars to drive as well if you ever end up drivin it around. They do fair in the winter as well, if you get snow where you are that is. They are pretty reliable too, it's a brand new car so it better be haha. Anyways, if she's looking for something fun to drive go with the FRS/BRZ

[BimmerBreaker]

^^^ Obviously not biased

[PaulE36]

Haha I've driven mk6 golfs that have 350+ hp, girlfriend drives a 2013 jetta that's fully loaded and it still doesn't compare to the FRS because of how well balanced of a car they are so sure I'm a little biased but I know both vehicles decently well.

[Colo Springs E]

OK now she's actually considering one of those ridiculous new Fiats. I'm done trying to help her lol.

[BimmerBreaker]

OK now she's actually considering one of those ridiculous new Fiats. I'm done trying to help her lol.

I ran into this same issue trying to help a girl friend of mine recently. Once they see one of those stupid little things, its game over. Either those or Mini Coopers (at least those are decent).

Fiats are so terrible. They are going to depreciate like a rock.

[PaulE36]

Hahaha girlfriend said the same thing the other night, wanting one of those 500's. Don't know what it is with em

[ericgeorge]

I think Volkswagen is better! It's engine, horse power and speed is great! Consider it, you won't regret

[tehwhiteegg]

I'd say a GTI for sure. I loved mine and miss it dearly. Just put a deposit down on an n55 135i)

[Colo Springs E]

Update: My sister-in-law still hasn't bought anything... still mulling things over, and some new cars have entered the mix. But in the course of things, I got really interested in the Subaru BRZ.

So I bought one.

Couldn't be happier. RWD, 200 horses, decent (enough for me) 60 time, low comfy leather/alcantara seats, ltd slip diff, nice exhaust note for well under 30k? I went all in and am loving it.

I drove the 4-door GTI and thought it was nice. Handled well but didn't sit all that low--I prefer the BRZ seating position. The front-wheel drive bugs me, dunno why, it just does. Why doesn't VW make any RWD vehicles?? Was also a few grand more than the Subie, and I like the styling of the BRZ better-- of course that's just personal preference. I think the GTI will look cool in 2-door but I'm sold on the BRZ, and anticipate much better reliability (I've owned Subies and V-dubs in the past... no contest there).