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    H35 s88 ?

    Not sure what I've got. Is an E30 M3 with an S88, which I presume is the E28 engine. It's an 86 Hartge. Some of the pictures of the H35 look like the base car was a 325, with an M30 engine. But the archival articles about it show an H35 that looks exactly the same. Red on black. The only difference was that the wheels are not 3 piece. 28k miles. Hartge decals are very faded. Did Hartge make an M3 with the M5 engine in 86?
    I wish I could post pictures of it.

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    M88 is usa and s38 is euro. Post pics. Is it a real m3? What's the story on it?
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    Theres no doubt it's an Hartge M3 with an M5 motor. I hitting select file, but can't go any further to post pics.

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    I see my pictures are about 1-2 Mbs. Exceeds file limit of 600Kb! That's nuts.

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    So what makes u so sure now?


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    E-mail me the pictures and I can upload them for you... my email is: BimmerBreaker@gmail.com

    Very curious to see this car

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    Theres no doubt it's an Hartge M3 with an M5 motor.
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    Interested in this as well!



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    Will do blackxs.

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    Pictures sent. I just lifted the car cover and took some shots of the dash and the faded Hartge decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMG View Post
    So what makes u so sure now?
    Nothing looks like an E30 M3 or an M88/S38.

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    Curious... Pics aren't loading though, Mr Breaker..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 323i E30 View Post
    Curious... Pics aren't loading though, Mr Breaker..
    Yes, I've been called impatient before.
    No, pics aren't loading.

    Did I mention yet that the pics aren't loading?

    Did you know you've been called impatient before? Interesting ....

    Still waiting for pics ...



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    Testing 1 2..
    Yo bimmerbreaker...any1 there? Anyone else able to post em?
    So, all the shots I see on this site are under 600Kb? How can I reduce the size?

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    Sorry, just got around to doing my rounds on the forum...

    Really would like some more pictures, showing the whole car, and maybe of interior too. Looks unique from what I can see. Oh and, engine bay pics... thats the piece de' resistance







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    A few pictures of a black Hartge H35 M3 just showed up on the R3V facebook page. looks spectacular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auaq View Post
    No engine pics?
    I posted all I received

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    Op, why you torture us with no engine pics?

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    I hitting select file, but can't go any further to post pics.
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    I couldnt find the H35 on R3V.
    Two years ago someone saw this car and started a thread in the E30 M3 forum. I resurrected the thread yesterday. The only comment to his description on that thread, is mine. Check out his description there. Its titled, supposed H35 - 24 in bklyn.

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    Hartge only built 6 H35-24 330hp e30 m3. All of the Hartge H35-24 m3 are in Europe. The one in NY is not a Hartge. It a has a USA m88 motor. The motor sits in position 1. Hartge H35-24 m3 sits in position 3 with ac, m5 radiator, mechanical fan, Hartge H35 steel motor mounts, Hartge 9 quart oil pan and a Hartge vin tag in red or blue next to wind shield resvoir. The suspension should be Hartge stamped on rear shocks. The brakes are custom by Hartge 12" rotors and calipers all 4. It should Have Hartge exhaust system. It will Have Hartge extended fuel tank and carpet cover in the trunk. It should Hartge front and rear badges with blue light blue. It will have a rear badge on the right side of trunk that says H35-24 with Hartge blue colors. It should have a Hartge mono wiper and delete cover on driver side. It should have a 280 klm cluster, Hartge steering wheel, Hartge shift knob, Hartge 3 row gauges and Hartge dead pedal. There are other Hartge items on the car to much to list. All Hartge cars are euro models. Hartge sold 6 for $110,000.
    I have pics of my Hartge H35-24 clone. The Hartge parts for H35-24 are hard to find.

    url=https://flic.kr/p/jar2sq][/url]DSC03412 by m3raul, on Flickr
    DSC03428 by m3raul, on Flickr
    DSC03424 by m3raul, on Flickr
    DSC03426 by m3raul, on Flickr
    url=https://flic.kr/p/jaoRHk][/url]DSC03409 by m3raul, on Flickr
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    Hartge only built 6 H35-24 330hp e30 m3. All of the Hartge H35-24 m3 are in Europe. The one in NY is not a Hartge. It a has a USA m88 motor. The motor sits in position 1. Hartge H35-24 m3 sits in position 3 with ac, m5 radiator, mechanical fan, Hartge H35 steel motor mounts, Hartge 9 quart oil pan and a Hartge vin tag in red or blue next to wind shield resvoir. The suspension should be Hartge stamped on rear shocks. The brakes are custom by Hartge 12" rotors and calipers all 4. It should Have Hartge exhaust system. It will Have Hartge extended fuel tank and carpet cover in the trunk. It should Hartge front and rear badges with blue light blue. It will have a rear badge on the right side of trunk that says H35-24 with Hartge blue colors. It should have a Hartge mono wiper and delete cover on driver side. It should have a 280 klm cluster, Hartge steering wheel, Hartge shift knob, Hartge 3 row gauges and Hartge dead pedal. There are other Hartge items on the car to much to list. All Hartge cars are euro models. Hartge sold 6 for $110,000.
    I have pics of my Hartge H35-24 clone. The Hartge parts for H35-24 are hard to find.

    url=https://flic.kr/p/jar2sq][/url]DSC03412 by m3raul, on Flickr
    DSC03428 by m3raul, on Flickr
    DSC03424 by m3raul, on Flickr
    DSC03426 by m3raul, on Flickr

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    DSC03409 by m3raul, on Flickr

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    Wow. What a thing of beauty. So its probably a dealer conversion of an M3. So it should have Hartge calipers and a mono wiper?

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    The caliper and rotors will not have a Hartge logo or part number. The Hartge mono wiper will not have a part number. I doubt the BMW dealer did the swap on the US m88 motor. I seen this red e30 m3 on s14 forum. It is not Hartge. The only thing that is Hartge are the 16" wheels and the 1978-84 first gen chrome Hartge badges. Those Hartge chrome badges were never offered on a Hartge H35-24 e30 m3. The first Hartge H35-24 silver m3 was built in 1987. I have owned Hartge and Alpina cars and researched about them for 20 years. I am all ways searching for the hard to find Hartge rare parts.

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