Woodcliff Lake, NJ – December 11, 2013, 6:10pm Eastern Time… BMW today announced the all-new BMW M3 Sedan and BMW M4 Coupe models, which capitalize on the strengths of the latest 3 Series Sedan and fresh 4 Series Coupe models as their respective foundations. As the first-ever BMW M cars to feature the achievement of an engineered-in reduction in curb weight from one generation to the next, the all-new M3 and M4 stand poised to attack corners, hills, and braking zones, and will vigorously defend BMW M’s decades-strong position as segment leader around the world.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
Thank you for still having a manual when so many cars have going to just autos (yes I understand that the autos in high performance cars are usually faster). Very cool to go back to the I6 as well.
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It's interesting that it makes about the same horsepower as the outgoing V8, but the torque figure is considerably higher and the car is supposed to be about 200-300 lbs lighter as well.
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
The new Roundel Mag implies that it's only lighter if the manual transmission is used.
Just another reason to stick with a "stick".
I guess that DCT is pretty hefty.
The DCT unit is no doubt a hefty monster to be able to take the abuse of thousands of launches over it's lifetime.
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
Prices starting at $91,180? So the cost of the base model M3 costs $820 less than a the M5?....
If money is not an issue, would you pick a M3 or M4?
Haha the commercial is cool but the car is OK (only). Not to mention the girlie "baby blue" color which is rather hideous.
Both look promising, but super expensive huh
Jesus can anyone confirm base price is 91k? Awesome car, but not for that pricetag.
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The price should be 69k, then it would be near perfect. Supposedly they lost around 200 lbs from the previous generation. More aluminum, more Carbon Fiber.
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My 2008 Chihuahua is Blue deal with it
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So much want.
And the price will be nowhere near $91k, that's M5 territory. Figure it will be closer to $65k. You can't just straight up convert from pounds to USD, the US always gets cars cheaper than the rest of the world.
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
Oh I see why people thought 91K - by converting pounds to USD.
If you're wondering, the i3 (ugly bmw) will be sold in UK for £25,680 and in the US it will go for $41,350 which is about the exact conversion rate.
UK Prices Announced for i3: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ices-announced
US Prices Announced for i3: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__6728
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
WOW that M4 is just beautiful. But I choked on the price of a used 335d msport, guess I just have to dream for a while.
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Just beautiful. The only lacking aspect of the E90/92 was torque, looks like that's been addressed.
It looks and, on paper, sounds like the best car they've ever made. I hope the steering feel has been addressed. If it had this may be the perfect sedan once again
It certainly sounds promising. They have certainly addressed the biggest problem of the e90/92, the styling. The grill connected headlights look a lot better in person then in videos and pictures.
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Both cars look pretty good overall, I'm glad to see some old school color choices available. The only thing I really don't like is the e63/64 m6 looking wheels that never looked good on anything, too cheap looking IMO. That steering wheel looks awesome though!
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by hundreds of engineers that get paid thousands of dollars for something you bought at Pep Boys because your buddy who doesn't have a job told you it was 'better'?!?
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