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    The B41510-13 is/was a 320i with VIN 9292944.

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    Vehicle information
    VIN long WBAAA310809292944
    Type code AA31
    Type 320I (EUR)
    Dev. series E30 ()
    Line 3
    Body type LIM
    Steering LL
    Door count 2
    Engine M20
    Cubical capacity 2.00
    Power 0
    Transmision HECK
    Gearbox MECH
    Colour SCHWARZ (086)
    Upholstery ANTHRAZIT (0150)
    Prod. date 1984-01-02
    Order options
    No. Description
    209 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL (25%)
    226 SPORTS SUSPENSION SETTINGS
    280 BMW LM RAD/SPEICHENSTYLING
    308 HANDSCHUHKASTENSCHLOSS, GLEICH
    314 HEATED WINDSCREEN WASHER NOZZLES
    320 MODEL DESIGNATION, DELETION
    351 WAERMESCHUTZGLAS BRAUN, RUNDUM
    410 WINDOW LIFTS, ELECTRIC AT FRONT
    425 WERKZEUGKASTEN, GROSSE AUSFUEH
    500 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYS/INTENSIVE CLEANING
    510 HEADLIGHT BEAM-THROW CONTR. F LOW BEAM
    520 FOGLIGHTS
    680 MANUAL AERIAL
    690 CASSETTE HOLDER
    829 CONVERTIBLE CONVERSION PREPARATION
    979 VELOURS-FUSSMATTEN VORN UND HI
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    Hi All - Wanted to let you know I'm the new owner of "the Chicago Baur".

    The ad was no exaggeration, paint (specifically clear coat) is in horrible shape, lots of dents (was in a hail storm at some point), seats, carpeting and side/door panels are trash and interior smells so bad I almost fell over when I opened the door. Trunk wouldn't close (had been broken into) and drivers door wouldn't close either, But appears to be rust free (we'll see when the carpet is pulled up) other than a small spot behind the battery. Car definitely had an "E" engine, and no ABS. Seller did have the hood, which I brought home with the car.

    But on the plus side, it's a Baur, Euro bumpers and grills, OBC and check panel are in German, most of the hard to find stuff is there and the dash isn't cracked. Not bad for $500. Worked to get the car closed up yesterday, doors and truck now work. Beyond that I probably won't do much with the car until Spring other than make sure it'll stay dry inside.

    I will be needing either a part # or information on how to get a red drivers side clip that the targa top goes into near the windshield and one of the plastic pieces that the soft top clips into on the targa bar. Also looking for information on the Baur specific rubber seals for the soft top and targa top, they're all pretty well gone on this car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmostro View Post
    Hi All - Wanted to let you know I'm the new owner of "the Chicago Baur".

    The ad was no exaggeration, paint (specifically clear coat) is in horrible shape, lots of dents (was in a hail storm at some point), seats, carpeting and side/door panels are trash and interior smells so bad I almost fell over when I opened the door. Trunk wouldn't close (had been broken into) and drivers door wouldn't close either, But appears to be rust free (we'll see when the carpet is pulled up) other than a small spot behind the battery. Car definitely had an "E" engine, and no ABS. Seller did have the hood, which I brought home with the car.

    But on the plus side, it's a Baur, Euro bumpers and grills, OBC and check panel are in German, most of the hard to find stuff is there and the dash isn't cracked. Not bad for $500. Worked to get the car closed up yesterday, doors and truck now work. Beyond that I probably won't do much with the car until Spring other than make sure it'll stay dry inside.

    I will be needing either a part # or information on how to get a red drivers side clip that the targa top goes into near the windshield and one of the plastic pieces that the soft top clips into on the targa bar. Also looking for information on the Baur specific rubber seals for the soft top and targa top, they're all pretty well gone on this car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmostro View Post
    Hi All - Wanted to let you know I'm the new owner of "the Chicago Baur".

    The ad was no exaggeration, paint (specifically clear coat) is in horrible shape, lots of dents (was in a hail storm at some point), seats, carpeting and side/door panels are trash and interior smells so bad I almost fell over when I opened the door. Trunk wouldn't close (had been broken into) and drivers door wouldn't close either, But appears to be rust free (we'll see when the carpet is pulled up) other than a small spot behind the battery. Car definitely had an "E" engine, and no ABS. Seller did have the hood, which I brought home with the car.

    But on the plus side, it's a Baur, Euro bumpers and grills, OBC and check panel are in German, most of the hard to find stuff is there and the dash isn't cracked. Not bad for $500. Worked to get the car closed up yesterday, doors and truck now work. Beyond that I probably won't do much with the car until Spring other than make sure it'll stay dry inside.

    I will be needing either a part # or information on how to get a red drivers side clip that the targa top goes into near the windshield and one of the plastic pieces that the soft top clips into on the targa bar. Also looking for information on the Baur specific rubber seals for the soft top and targa top, they're all pretty well gone on this car.
    Congratulations and Welcome! Check with your local BMW for some of those parts.... you may be pleasantly surprised what they can get. Ed/Jeff, is that parts car down in North Carolina still being parted out? Perhaps those clips might be found there. Tom
    Tom
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    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    I have a set of the red clips PM me and we can figure something out. The parts car in NC. is only being sold as a complete chopped off top he will not separate any of the Baur parts.
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    Jeff, that link you sent me for the Touring Car Inc shop in Matthews NC had this pic on its website:touring car_spring TC2 Baur at right.jpg Is it me, or is that a white TC2 Baur that I see to the right of the pic? Eighth pic down on this page: http://www.pcarshops.com/north-carolina/touringcar
    Last edited by tomscat1; 07-31-2013 at 12:29 PM.
    Tom
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    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
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    It is! :-)

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    Ton and Jeroen,

    Yes indeed, it is a Baur. It belongs to the owner's son, whom I believe told me that he pulled it out of a corn field. I don't have its Baur number, however; sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Jeff, that link you sent me for the Touring Car Inc shop in Matthews NC had this pic on its website:touring car_spring TC2 Baur at right.jpg Is it me, or is that a white TC2 Baur that I see to the right of the pic? Eighth pic down on this page: http://www.pcarshops.com/north-carolina/touringcar
    Bingo! 1984 Baur TC2
    VIN is WBAAA310609292120! NO Baur plate number yet. Hopefully soon come!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Bingo! 1984 Baur TC2
    VIN is WBAAA310609292120! NO Baur plate number yet. Hopefully soon come!
    B41420-11

    Gr Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baur View Post
    B41420-11

    Gr Jeroen
    Jeroen!
    Thank you!
    Baur Number: B41420-11 I have checked the International Baur TC2 Registry, and this Baur is NOT listed yet! This qualifies as a NEW FIND! http://translate.google.com/translat...om&client=tmpg
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    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Excellent Jeroen! Was this car already in the worldwide TC2 database, or is it a "new find"?

    Jeff
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWtyro View Post
    Excellent Jeroen! Was this car already in the worldwide TC2 database, or is it a "new find"?

    Jeff
    See above amended post. It is a NEW FIND!
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    For the past four years I have heard rumors of Alpine white TC2 that is a clone of my car located in state of NH , I have found it and here it is. More to come
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEPOOLEMAN View Post
    For the past four years I have heard rumors of Alpine white TC2 that is a clone of my car located in state of NH , I have found it and here it is. More to come






    It could be just me, but I can't see those pics at all, Ed. Anyone else have trouble with them?
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Jeroen here's the last seven of the vin ( 9165868 ), I could not open the drivers door to see the Baur number












    VIN long WBAAA710909165868
    Type code AA71
    Type 323I (EUR)
    Dev. series E30 ()
    Line 3
    Body type LIM
    Steering LL
    Door count 2
    Engine M20
    Cubical capacity 2.30
    Power 0
    Transmision HECK
    Gearbox MECH
    Colour ALPINWEISS (146)
    Upholstery SCHWARZ KUNSTLEDER (0166)
    Prod. date 1984-10-26
    Order options
    No. Description
    286 BMW LM RAD/BMW STYLING
    300 ZENTRALVERRIEGELUNG ELEKTRISCH
    350 WAERMESCHUTZGLAS GRUEN, RUNDUM
    410 WINDOW LIFTS, ELECTRIC AT FRONT
    530 AIR CONDITIONING
    661 BMW Bavaria C Business RDS
    682 RADIOANTENNE AUTOMATISCH
    690 CASSETTE HOLDER
    829 CONVERTIBLE CONVERSION PREPARATION
    Attached Images Attached Images
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    Wow, Ed, that really is a lot like yours; it's quite a find.

    Is it for sale? And is it fixable?

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    That's the B43051-13, sold by Riemer&Oberst in Bad Kreuznach (a small hour drive to the west of Frankfurt, so this might be not the first these two met).

    Gr Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWtyro View Post
    Wow, Ed, that really is a lot like yours; it's quite a find.

    Is it for sale? And is it fixable?

    Jeff
    Jeff , it is close to my car I don't have power windows aside from that they are almost identical. It's fixable however, the insurance company has totaled it so if fixed it will end up with a "salvage" title which cuts it's value in half. The estimate to fix it is over $10K it would be a hard decision for me to make if I owned it, The owner is planning on repairing it at this point. we'll see what happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baur View Post
    That's the B43051-13, sold by Riemer&Oberst in Bad Kreuznach (a small hour drive to the west of Frankfurt, so this might be not the first these two met).

    Gr Jeroen
    You are the man Jereon !

    As Tom says " It's a small Baur world " here's the full story about my search for this car.

    There is a small independent BMW sales and service provider located in the Lakes region of the state, they have been around for many and have great reputation, I know a guy who works there and about four or five years ago I ran into him and he told me that this car had been in for service, when he first saw it he thought it was my car with good reason as we all can clearly see.
    I asked him to pass along my contact info to the owner, which he did , the owners are not enthusiasts so I understand . As time went on I kept that car in the back of mind and hoped I'd find it one day.
    Last week I was sitting at my desk at work and the internet sales manager came up to me and said he had a guy on the phone who had questions about a 1984 323i convertible, and parts availability. I looked at him and said " it has to be a Baur if its a 1984 convertible" The call gets transferred to me and I have a half hour long conversation with the insurance adjuster who is handling the claim.
    After a very short time I realize that it's the car I have looking for all this time. The adjuster put the body shop owner in contact with me and the rest is history.
    A small Baur world indeed
    Now where is next unknown Baur going to be found ?


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    Great story

    I think it is possible to fix this car, or did the fenders touch the doors? Anyone noticed the sidelights on the front? Those are standard BMW-indicators whichs are normally placed here:


    Gr Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baur View Post
    Great story

    I think it is possible to fix this car, or did the fenders touch the doors? Anyone noticed the sidelights on the front? Those are standard BMW-indicators whichs are normally placed here:


    Gr Jeroen
    The car had been painted and someone added the side markers because they could not find them in HTK or ETK, in the U.S. market you found the side markers that were used on greymarket cars in the 1975-76 2002 diagram, however many TC2 owners here report that the markers used on thier cars had Benz part #'s on them. I used 2002 parts on mine when I replaced my front markers.
    I agree that the car is repairable the point is that it's value in the end overshadows the value of it if you can not do the work yourself, the body shop they use is top notch and normally only does restoration work on hot rods and other high end stuff.
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    Jeroen,

    Yes, I did notice the unusual placement of the Euro side marker lights.

    Mine does indeed have the M-B markers as previously mentioned, but at least the lenses interchange with 2002 side markers so no worries about finding replacements there.

    Jeff
    1984 320i Baur TC2 5-Speed Opalgrün (Jeff's)
    1987 325e Sedan A/T Zinnoberrot (Dawn's)
    1984 633 CSi 5-speed Bronzit (Ours . . . if she says so)


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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
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    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    BWR PWR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    I hope you spell checked it for me ?
    thank you
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