i was on my way home home and i saw this red bimmer i think it was stock 325
i thought to my self why not race him and impress the girls in my car(lol) plus i had a long drive and i was getting kinda sleepy so i needed to wake up so we lined up at a 80mph roll and on the third hunk i put my car into third i drop the clutch and bam( ama say it like a ricer would) i jumped on him wit my vtec yo i got a half car length and then shifted to 4th and thats when he started gain up on me and b4 you kno it he was 2 cars ahead and i lost:biglaughb yup and i kept trying we did couple runs but the same results

so in conclusion i got smoked not once or twice but few times:bawl

once again power to the BIMMERS:redspot

Not to be an ass, but why do the guys with VTEC always say..."my VTEC is kickin in/wait till it kicks in/did you feel it kickin...". Isnt it just like our VANOS? Its just variable timing on valves with the cams. I dont know...its just seems rediculous. -Mike

I'm not sure if I understand what happend.

Isnt it just like our VANOS? Its just variable timing on valves with the cams.

Similiar... but not the same.

Our Vanos is only there so we can have hot cams. Without the vanos, the idle would be rough on our cars, since the cams allow for a bunch of overlap and junk. I've driven both vanos (own one) and non-vanos 325i's, and I can tell you, the difference is there. After around 800rpms there is a deffinite change in "spool up" on vanos cars, where the non-vanos M50 is just a consistent pull. Both arrive at the same performance figures, essentially, maybe a tad different.

VTEC is a whole different beasts. For one, it kicks in LATE in the rev cycle, around 6k on most VTEC cars I think, and when it hits, you know it. The different cams really pick up. The feeling isn't that different from turbo-lag, except it happens a lot later. Thats why on those little sub-2.0l hondas you gotta stir the stick to keep the revs in VTEC range.

Don't get VTEC confused with I-VTEC, which is essense is simliar to the new Dual-VANOS system... its a continual phasing in of the hotter timing, instead of the VTECs on/off switch effect. Most car manufacturers are playing with variable timing now, Chevy has a great system in its new 4.2l i6.

So no, I don't think he was being ridiculous by claiming that he was waiting for VTEC to kick in. Snag a ride in a GS-R someday, and you'll know exactly what he is talking about.

Steve

Originally posted by savemike
Not to be an ass, but why do the guys with VTEC always say..."my VTEC is kickin in/wait till it kicks in/did you feel it kickin...". Isnt it just like our VANOS? Its just variable timing on valves with the cams. I dont know...its just seems rediculous. -Mike
vtec make a noise and kicks in and ull feel alil boost nothing like a turbo but tiny boost

I think it used to kick in right at 5.5k rpms on my 98 Prelude. Alot of people get VTEC controllers where they can set the range when the VTEC kicks in. But you just can't set it to kick in too early in the RPM range (many people misunderstand this), it needs to be professionally tuned in order to maximize torque & HP.

It does make the engine growl nicely with a CAI but does not produce nearly the boost that a turbo would.

I am done with the Japanese cars however because I can't do w/o low end torque. I'll probably drive the M3 till it dies.

For some reason, I think this thread is meant to be a joke, but I'm not sure

no joke i really raced a e36 and i lost
my ecu is goverened at 115mph so i cant play wit bimmers on the freeway but i am more into bimmers than hondas and my integ is only a beater but i like to mess around wit it,

When I was in traffic school for my first ticket there was this kid in my class with an Integra all riced out with a imported Japanese R spec engine. I asked if I could go for a short ride around the block and his car, even though it was 4 cylinders it hauled ass! No joke about the Vtec, because it really does help a lot.

I'm not suprised the bimmer beat you on the freeway. if this was a race from light to light you would have probably won.

Originally posted by BMWg84
When I was in traffic school for my first ticket there was this kid in my class with an Integra all riced out with a imported Japanese R spec engine. I asked if I could go for a short ride around the block and his car, even though it was 4 cylinders it hauled ass! No joke about the Vtec, because it really does help a lot.

I'm not suprised the bimmer beat you on the freeway. if this was a race from light to light you would have probably won.



fo shizel mai nizel
i raced my bimmer at a 30 mph roll against the integra an beat it
so the vtec rice sh!t aint a joke but top speed and high speed acceleration not as good as bimmers

I am confused. I have an Integra LS. It does not have the VTec. Only the The gs, gsr, and of course Type-R came with the real VTEC. My LS has 140hp and can do about 120 and it takes a looong time to do it. Did you put in an VTEC and why is limited to 115?

being a former honda owner with a fully built integ gsr turbo and civic hatch back with a gsr, i can honestly say that Vtec kicks ass. you can really feel and hear it. from time to time i kinda miss it actually. haha. vanos is cool but vtec is a different story. although now i am a happy m owner i still have love for the non rice hondas. the jdm style.

When I first got my car I raced my friend who had a 98' Prelude 5spd. Both cars were stock and my auto pulled like a mother on him. He was a good driver too. I was impressed in my car to be like that. At 3500k it really takes off. Its actually quite a bit faster now with a chip, intake and exhaust. All I need now is a supercharger......

Originally posted by mkarkos
I am confused. I have an Integra LS. It does not have the VTec. Only the The gs, gsr, and of course Type-R came with the real VTEC. My LS has 140hp and can do about 120 and it takes a looong time to do it. Did you put in an VTEC and why is limited to 115?

my car is an integra ls so what i did was kept the ls block and put a vtechead on it and in order for the vtec to kick in andto run good i had to swap ecus the ecu i got was a japanese ecu and its goverend at 115mph and 8200rpm red line

Originally posted by StevenRyan

Snag a ride in a GS-R someday, and you'll know exactly what he is talking about.
Steve
Hmmm I know just what you're talkin about:devillook

Originally posted by mkarkos
The gs, gsr, and of course Type-R came with the real VTEC.
The GS is not VTEC

And bimmer boi..... not to be an ass or anything but your car must not be running right. You should a little more power output than me and you lost to a 3.25....... I would OWN a 3.25 ask Ron17

Justin-
I thought GS were VTEC. I see many 4-drs with VTEC. I thought they were GS not GS-R.

biMmer Boi- Get A BMW soon. Torque=fun.

Originally posted by mkarkos
Justin-
I thought GS were VTEC. I see many 4-drs with VTEC. I thought they were GS not GS-R.

biMmer Boi- Get A BMW soon. Torque=fun.

i got a bimmer but its a 94 325 AT i want a 95 m3

and justingsr i know that i should be able to beat the 325is once am done with the car cuz i still need to fix some of the ecu wiring and i have a check engine light on so am still trying to get the car running good

but the fact is that i lost and ama keep losing to the bimmers untill i get my car runing the way it should

Originally posted by savemike
Not to be an ass, but why do the guys with VTEC always say..."my VTEC is kickin in/wait till it kicks in/did you feel it kickin...". Isnt it just like our VANOS? Its just variable timing on valves with the cams. I dont know...its just seems rediculous. -Mike

i had a 95 integra gs-r, and yes you can feel the vtec kick in. at least i did that car.

Originally posted by slickav
I'm not sure if I understand what happend.

i kinda agree...heh :az:

Hahaha... I still love how people compare VTEC to some sort of "boost". I've been through many hondas. Yes you can feel the POWER increase due to the VTEC solenoid changing the Valve timing. Also the intake manifold opens up inside for more air.... but there is nothing magical about any of this. It's just an intelligent design many companies use, everyone just knows the word VTEC. All of my Hondas/Acuras will never compare to the blissful power of my 328. So smooth, so precise... not waiting for some "magical boost" when I hit 4700+ RPM. If you wanna feel boost... throw a nice turbo setup on an Integra... and hang on. Sadly, when it does hit, you're almost out of control. What fun is that? Yeah, it can be fast as hell in a straight line though.

Originally posted by Ludicious
Hahaha... I still love how people compare VTEC to some sort of "boost". I've been through many hondas. Yes you can feel the POWER increase due to the VTEC solenoid changing the Valve timing. Also the intake manifold opens up inside for more air.... but there is nothing magical about any of this.
really?????? i thought it was all magic:dunno
but i guess i was wrong

vtec or no vtec its still a honda ( and dont go flaming me am just saying what i think and in my opinion BMW IS MUCH BETTER)

Originally posted by mkarkos
Justin-
I thought GS were VTEC. I see many 4-drs with VTEC. I thought they were GS not GS-R.


They do make 4-door GS-Rs. Don't ask me why, but they do.

Originally posted by Ron17
They do make 4-door GS-Rs. Don't ask me why, but they do.

Yes they do, my old girlfriend had one... man, she had a great rack :boobies

Sorry, back on topic... :D

:lol:

I dunno. See, I can fathom 4-door M3s, because they've always been meant to be a sports-SEDAN. Yet, the GS-R has always personified the stereotypical boy-racer image (and, in fact, wallows in it by design), so I don't understand why they'd make a 4-door offering for it.

Hell, I don't even know why they made a 4-door Integra... PERIOD. :95

It was one of those racks that just defied gravity, 100% real/natural, yet bouyant, while still being rather large.... (36D's on a little 5'2" 105 lb frame with a 22" waist...).

I'm sorry, what were you saying, Ron... :D

I... uhhh... tit.

Originally posted by biMmer Boi
vtec or no vtec its still a honda ( and dont go flaming me am just saying what i think and in my opinion BMW IS MUCH BETTER)

Not flaming anyone bud... sorry if it came off that way. Just amused by the hype given to the "allmighty VTEC". I love Hondas, I'd like to have another Integra for my daily driver. I just had to get out of that scene, and away from that uneducated mentality. (NOT calling you uneducated) ;)

i have also moved on but i still have love for the honda and all other great automobiles.

Originally posted by Ludicious
Not flaming anyone bud... sorry if it came off that way. Just amused by the hype given to the "allmighty VTEC". I love Hondas, I'd like to have another Integra for my daily driver. I just had to get out of that scene, and away from that uneducated mentality. (NOT calling you uneducated) ;)
yea i have a bimmer too and i was a ricer once and i moved a way from that buti bought the integra to use as a beater and a daily driver, its the most relaible car i had:)

I have owned 3 different Preludes (89,91,98) and the 3rd gens are my favorite. I think I am going to pick one up for a winter car. Those cars define reliability (as long as you keep the timing belt changed, learned this the hard way). No VTEC, but I don't think the 5th gens are built nearly as solid as the previous gens, specifically the 89-91's. The engines are peppier and more fun, but the body, trim, etc just seems cheap (to me anyway).

I loved my 93' Prelude Si... one of my favorite cars I've owned. Until it ate a large tree... but yes... this winter I will definitely be finding another Honda for comuting.