I'm debating which one to make my next car. I know this is an M3 forum and that most of you would take or already own the M3. What I want to know is this: if money was no object between the two if you could get them for the same price. Which one would you choose and why?

if you're keeping the z, get the vette. if you need a backseat, get the m!

(yea that was the most practical response you'll get but i figured the 100 responses after me will be based on the more obvious criteria, haha).

I would say them M3 because theirs more to cars then a 7.0Liter 2 seater. But honestly just got test drive both cars and see which one you will like more.

I would say them M3 because theirs more to cars then a 7.0Liter 2 seater. But honestly just got test drive both cars and see which one you will like more.

The LS3 would be the standard 6.2 motor, 430 hp. Obviously, it all depends on use and preference. If track days are anticipated, the Vette would be more fun (for me), assuming both cars stock.

Well, I will have to disagree with your stance on track days (assuming a road course, if drag strip please disregard). If they are anticipated, I strongly believe the more pleasurable experience on the track will be, hands-down, the M3. The car from inception was designed for the track, not the straight-line like many domestic sports cars. You must take into account precision not just grunt.

Well, I will have to disagree with your stance on track days (assuming a road course, if drag strip please disregard). If they are anticipated, I strongly believe the more pleasurable experience on the track will be, hands-down, the M3. The car from inception was designed for the track, not the straight-line like many domestic sports cars. You must take into account precision not just grunt.

I was speaking from personal experience, obviously we all have opinions. I have owned a Z51 C6 Vette (with the previous 400 hp motor), and a couple of E46 M3s. Obviously, the new M3 has more hp and speed than the E46, and should be comparable in that regard to the LS3 Vette. Assuming either the Z51 package in the coupe, or, the ZO6, the car is more, not less road course oriented than the M3. If you consider these cars as drag racers, I can only say your opinion is in the significant minority. I currently have a C6 ZO6, and it is every bit the equal of a GT3 on track. And since the Z51 compares very favorably to the 997S on most tracks, you simply cannot put these in the same category as "many domestic sports cars". Of course, all this may be moot, as the OP might have no track interest anyway.

Unfortunately, the price won't be the same. A base LS3 C6 can be had for $40k, that's 135i territory and roughly $15-20k difference. But then again, an E92 M3 and a C6 are on different market slice. Pricing for E92 M3 is more suitably compared to the more expensive C6 Z06.

Unfortunately, the price won't be the same. A base LS3 C6 can be had for $40k, that's 135i territory and roughly $15-20k difference. But then again, an E92 M3 and a C6 are on different market slice. Pricing for E92 M3 is more suitably compared to the more expensive C6 Z06.

Correct, but the OP qualified out any price difference. Obviously, dollar for dollar, the M3 would not fare too well against the ZO6 on track.

I already test drove an 08 Vette with the LS3 package and the optional sports exhaust. I have to say that when I floored the pedal at 80mph on the freeway it threw me back into the seat and felt like endless power. Just the sound and acceleration alone was incredible. I wondered how the M3 compared. I haven't had a chance to get down to the stealership to test drive it. Plus I don't know if they let you test drive the M3 unless they think you will buy it that day.

As far as taking the car to the track it would be probably just for quarter mile drag races occasionally. I was thinking more like daily driver, everyday "super" car. (I use the word super very loosely, in this instance). Most likely my races will be stoplights and freeway.

It is hard to try to compare the C6 and the E92 as far as price goes which is why I would exclude the Z06 if I could afford it then the Z06 would be mine I think they sell for about 75,000 or so around where I live. The E92 sells for about 60,000 assuming there is no dealership markup, if there was a markup then it might be like the Z06 and out of my range.

I already test drove an 08 Vette with the LS3 package and the optional sports exhaust. I have to say that when I floored the pedal at 80mph on the freeway it threw me back into the seat and felt like endless power. Just the sound and acceleration alone was incredible. I wondered how the M3 compared. I haven't had a chance to get down to the stealership to test drive it. Plus I don't know if they let you test drive the M3 unless they think you will buy it that day.

As far as taking the car to the track it would be probably just for quarter mile drag races occasionally. I was thinking more like daily driver, everyday "super" car. (I use the word super very loosely, in this instance). Most likely my races will be stoplights and freeway.

It is hard to try to compare the C6 and the E92 as far as price goes which is why I would exclude the Z06 if I could afford it then the Z06 would be mine I think they sell for about 75,000 or so around where I live. The E92 sells for about 60,000 assuming there is no dealership markup, if there was a markup then it might be like the Z06 and out of my range.

Around here (NC), they can be had at a small discount I believe, but you CA folks are always the trend setters in dealer pricing it seems. I've had two salesmen call me to come test drive one. Based on your last post, my guess is you will opt for the M3. I absolutely love the ZO6 (sold a 997S to buy it), but I would not have it as a daily driver. I do 7 or 8 track weekends a year, but otherwise, it is a weekend driver. And if your only off-road use is drag racing, well, you can do that with anything. It's hard to beat the M3 for all-around high performanc utility, and its handling limits are certainly beyond any public road demands. I believe you will find the M3 to have impressive power also, but the power band is very different compared to the Chevy LS3; revs forever, but not the same low end grunt.

I currently own a modified C6 Vette making about 450 HP at the crank. It is obviously a tire scorcher! If you are just into drag racing, I would go with the Corvette. I personally think that the M3 is a much better vehicle in both fit & finish, quality, road feel (feedback), and handling. Yes, the C6 will handle well, but the chassis and steering feel are very numb and not very confidence inspiring. Obviously, the Vette is a better "bang for the buck" and an American icon, but if price doesn't matter, I would go for the BMW. It is a more practical car (back seat) with power equivalent to the C6 and handling/road feedback equivalent to a Porsche 911.

I currently own a modified C6 Vette making about 450 HP at the crank. It is obviously a tire scorcher! If you are just into drag racing, I would go with the Corvette. I personally think that the M3 is a much better vehicle in both fit & finish, quality, road feel (feedback), and handling. Yes, the C6 will handle well, but the chassis and steering feel are very numb and not very confidence inspiring. Obviously, the Vette is a better "bang for the buck" and an American icon, but if price doesn't matter, I would go for the BMW. It is a more practical car (back seat) with power equivalent to the C6 and handling/road feedback equivalent to a Porsche 911.


Having owned them all, I can agree with your comment on the difference in steering, braking, and suspension input between the Porsche, BMW and Corvette. But, it's not necessarily perceived as a matter of great importance for every driver. In driving the M3, then the Porsche, and now the ZO6 on the same track, sure, I can tell a difference in the feel of the controls. But, it's not something that bothers me. This is why it is so important to drive each car, as different folks have their own perception of a car's "feel".

vettes are capable but are somewhat numb, even with the latest improvements. Apparently, you just have to trust the fact that they grip really well, even when the chassis and steering are not reinforcing that impression. From a tactile standpoint, they are not as rewarding as, say, a boxster. But the isolation makes the vette a surprisingly nice tourer. Quiet, comfy, and good milage. I am surprised that some people still think that vettes are made for the straight line race! That is ridiculous. Which car in recent memory has double wishbone suspension, space frame, low CG, etc?? No BMW or porsche, that is for sure. Maybe a ferrari. What the vette lacks is the nuanced suspension and steering that some competitors have. If you can accept the lack of "feel", the car is very capable on road and track. From my experience, the vette is also faster in a straight line than the M3...yet data tells me I am wrong. It was just how the cars felt to me. Most data has the vette and M3 neck and neck on performance and handling. But, the vette can still have wheelspin in third gear, and I did not feel the M3 had those type of beans.Maybe more "area under the curve" or something is helping the M3s powerband. Anyway, we are going to drive our friends 2008 Z51 'stripper' in an hour or so. I will ask him to comment. He bought the car with the thought of tracking it, and it had only the Z51 option, and nothing else. I think it came in at $45K delivered. :buttrock

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vettes are capable but are somewhat numb, even with the latest improvements. Apparently, you just have to trust the fact that they grip really well, even when the chassis and steering are not reinforcing that impression. From a tactile standpoint, they are not as rewarding as, say, a boxster. But the isolation makes the vette a surprisingly nice tourer. Quiet, comfy, and good milage. I am surprised that some people still think that vettes are made for the straight line race! That is ridiculous. Which car in recent memory has double wishbone suspension, space frame, low CG, etc?? No BMW or porsche, that is for sure. Maybe a ferrari. What the vette lacks is the nuanced suspension and steering that some competitors have. If you can accept the lack of "feel", the car is very capable on road and track. From my experience, the vette is also faster in a straight line than the M3...yet data tells me I am wrong. It was just how the cars felt to me. Most data has the vette and M3 neck and neck on performance and handling. But, the vette can still have wheelspin in third gear, and I did not feel the M3 had those type of beans.Maybe more "area under the curve" or something is helping the M3s powerband. Anyway, we are going to drive our friends 2008 Z51 'stripper' in an hour or so. I will ask him to comment. He bought the car with the thought of tracking it, and it had only the Z51 option, and nothing else. I think it came in at $45K delivered. :buttrock

I expect your perception of staight line speed is accurate. The cars have essentially the same horsepower, but the Vette is lighter. And yes, traction is a challenge with the Corvette. With the power coming on at such low rpms, you have to develop a good feel for the throttle. I haven't driven a new Z51 coupe, but the ZO6, with street tires, demands a lot of attention to the throttle well into third gear. Since I use street tires on the track, I use third gear in several places where second would be better, if I had the traction. I expect the new M3, with its power coming on higher in the rpm range, and with a greater understeer balance, will be the more forgiving car to drive.

Had a '06 Vette with the Z51 that I tracked fairly often and the car is very capable but not the easiest car to get around a track. The Vette certainly makes you work for your speed but is instantly entertaining and quite fast once you get the dynamics down.

For me the local car club would also play a part in my decision making honestly. Car clubs are unique to their mark and certainly have a personality of their own...in SoCal I enjoyed the fact that the Vette guys liked to drive their cars but would just as easily tilt a beer back at a local eatery.

I checked out some reviews and articles on the 08 vettes. Chevy was made some suspension and handling changes for 08. From what I've heard they 07's and the 08's feel a lot different from each other. I did notice with the 'Vette when I was cornering that it did feel slightly "dead" I wonder if this was one of the changes they made to make it more forgiving. I guess I will just have to man up and go down to BMW and ask to test drive an M3. The worse they can say is no.

I went to the dealership to test drive the new M3. They didn't have one on the lot that was available so I figured a 2004 E46 would be the next best thing. First off let me say Holy Crap I had no idea what that M really meant now I do and I want one badly. I drove the SMG version and just hitting the "sport" button made the car jump forward without even pressing the gas!!!!

So the car salesman on the test drive starts telling me to "go straight, don't turn behind this piece of shit prius" " I fucking hate prius's" I kind of look at the dude like okay whats his problem. Then he tells me to cut off another car "this fag is gonna pass us in that toyota, don't let him pass us" "speed up and make that guy get behind us"

The whole time he's trying to get me to drive like I'm an ambulance and that I should have right of way no matter what. Plus he was spewing this elitist prick comments from the passenger seat. I'm not gonna use this A holes name but needless to say I will never EVER make a deal which will involve him profiting in any way shape or form. Plus I'd love for him to cut me off or pull some of the crap he was trying to get me to do on me. I'd definitely follow this guy to wherever and see if he thinks he's the shit outside his vehicle.:fingerboi

Sounds like you had a favorable experience with the E46 test drive (salesman excepted). I've owned two of them, and they are great cars. Thought I would try to answer your previous question re: the Vette '08 steering. There was a change in steering rack made for the '08 model year. The difference is noticeable, but not substantial. Mine is a ZO6, but I assume the same rack is used in the coupe, at least with the Z51 package. The steering does not feel like a Porsche, or BMW. I can't agree with the perception of it feeling "dead", but certainly less detail in communication. I was at the track recently, and the only cars making it around the track any faster were a couple of well driven GT3's, and they were on Hoosiers. So, although the feel is different, they are very capable cars. But, it is also one of those cars that is much more fun on track than on the street. I don't know if the coupe you drove was a Z51, but that is the one you should compare to the M cars.

Well, I will have to disagree with your stance on track days (assuming a road course, if drag strip please disregard). If they are anticipated, I strongly believe the more pleasurable experience on the track will be, hands-down, the M3. The car from inception was designed for the track, not the straight-line like many domestic sports cars. You must take into account precision not just grunt.


Nothing personal, but... YOUR HIGH! Obviously you have never tracked a vette, this isnt the 80's/90's, vettes kick ass on any tracks! Im a HUGE fan of the M3 but you would have more fun in the vette, however I think the M3 looks better, is more practical and more comfortable.

I already test drove an 08 Vette with the LS3 package and the optional sports exhaust. I have to say that when I floored the pedal at 80mph on the freeway it threw me back into the seat and felt like endless power. Just the sound and acceleration alone was incredible. I wondered how the M3 compared. I haven't had a chance to get down to the stealership to test drive it. Plus I don't know if they let you test drive the M3 unless they think you will buy it that day.

As far as taking the car to the track it would be probably just for quarter mile drag races occasionally. I was thinking more like daily driver, everyday "super" car. (I use the word super very loosely, in this instance). Most likely my races will be stoplights and freeway.

It is hard to try to compare the C6 and the E92 as far as price goes which is why I would exclude the Z06 if I could afford it then the Z06 would be mine I think they sell for about 75,000 or so around where I live. The E92 sells for about 60,000 assuming there is no dealership markup, if there was a markup then it might be like the Z06 and out of my range.

You just need to go out and get a 6 month old Z06 for 60K. People are getting them new now for 65-68K. You will not be sorry. I would take the M3 over the C6 though. The Z06 is a whole different animal though. And it is an animal. Mean and wicked fast. The standard vette feels pedestrian in comparison.

I would take the M3.

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As I said before it was a 2008 Z51 w/no options. The owner has the intentions of tracking and autocross and wanted the car to be light. Admittedly, I felt a bit intimidated driving it. Right off the bat, I went full throttle to pass some slower traffic in second gear at 50 mph and the thing went 20 degrees sideways before the stability control saved my arse. Needless to say, it went fast and the torque was a monster from 1K to 5K rpm. The gearshift is very mechanical and slots well into each gear. Very chunky and precise, although I could not shift with exceptional speed. It seemed to have an advantage over the M cars there. The solid feel might wear on me day to day however...being quite heavy in its action. Strangely enough, after the drive, I mostly remember the torque that it had. I could hardly remember any other facet of the vehicle!! As for handling, it seemed to do fine. Minimal understeer, nice limits, and progressive. Not much steering feel, but the again, my E46 isn't exactly loaded with feel either. It was very precise at least. I did not feel very comfortable at first because of the low seating position and perceived width of the vette. The seats were sort of sad and cheap. They were comfy, but where is the support?? Why can a Mazdaspeed 3 have great seats and the vette have cushions instead? Anyway, The brakes were strong but the feel was mushy compared to german cars. Overall, I was very impressed by my first extended experience with the vette. I don't think that I would take one over the M cars for daily driving, but if I needed a "track" car, the vette would be a top contender. :cool

As I said before it was a 2008 Z51 w/no options. The owner has the intentions of tracking and autocross and wanted the car to be light. Admittedly, I felt a bit intimidated driving it. Right off the bat, I went full throttle to pass some slower traffic in second gear at 50 mph and the thing went 20 degrees sideways before the stability control saved my arse. Needless to say, it went fast and the torque was a monster from 1K to 5K rpm. The gearshift is very mechanical and slots well into each gear. Very chunky and precise, although I could not shift with exceptional speed. It seemed to have an advantage over the M cars there. The solid feel might wear on me day to day however...being quite heavy in its action. Strangely enough, after the drive, I mostly remember the torque that it had. I could hardly remember any other facet of the vehicle!! As for handling, it seemed to do fine. Minimal understeer, nice limits, and progressive. Not much steering feel, but the again, my E46 isn't exactly loaded with feel either. It was very precise at least. I did not feel very comfortable at first because of the low seating position and perceived width of the vette. The seats were sort of sad and cheap. They were comfy, but where is the support?? Why can a Mazdaspeed 3 have great seats and the vette have cushions instead? Anyway, The brakes were strong but the feel was mushy compared to german cars. Overall, I was very impressed by my first extended experience with the vette. I don't think that I would take one over the M cars for daily driving, but if I needed a "track" car, the vette would be a top contender. :cool

The width of the Vette is an illusion. Believe it or not, it is less than 3" wider than an M3, but it's 6" lower and 6" shorter. As for the brake feel, that is just a matter of preparation. With the same pads and fresh fluid, they feel as good as the BMW, and in ZO6 form, stop better. The seats are weak, no question, but they work okay for 15-20 minute track sessions, and are fine for the street.

It is interesting that you point that out, since it is something I tell myself every time I get into a vette. And, I always laugh when the european press (Topgear) remarks about how big the vette is (usually they throw in a joke of how big and heavy americans are!)...yet it is not bigger than many of the cars they test and love! Anyway, My friend assured me that I would get used to it in a few days and be able to place the car wherever I need to on a track. I think the M3 feels somewhat smaller because you are perched up on a high seat and can see the corners of the car well. I really did enjoy seeing those fender flares behind the headlights on the vette. Made me feel like the car was a bit more unique. Had a hell of a time parking it. As for the M3s, I found the new M3 to be a bit less panoramic in outward view than the older E46. But I did not even notice the hood bulge that many complained about. Maybe because the test car was interlagos blue and it was a dark lump instead of a silver one. I took the M-school a few weeks ago (no M3s were ready, but the still had "andretti", "Said", "Rahal", "Kendall", stenciled on them for the speedvision TV special). Anyway, they have a mini 'corkscrew' turn like laguna seca...I had a really hard time setting the cars up because the M5 and M6 both have a little lump and a high dashboard.

Yes, I've driven on the Spartanburg track, and that little corkscrew is tricky. I was driving the Z4M Coupe, which happens to be a car in which I simply cannot get into a correct driving position, so I never got it right. You have to get the car set up before you see where you are tracking out, so it just takes some specific track time. And your friend was correct about the Vette. It is a car that feels much better at speed on track than it does on the street, and you can be fairly precise with it.

It depends on what you want to use the car for. If you are going to track on a frequent basis and want to write kill stories I would go with Z06. If you just want an occasional track day and need a great 4 seater, thanm I would go M3 either way you will have a good car. If I had my choice and lots of money both cars would be in my garage.

In terms of quality and hi tech the BMW is the right answer in a big way.

Drive up to Monterey: I'll let you drive a new M3, sedan or coupe. No markup. Amazing car.:eyecrazy We also have a used 2006 M5 with 12,000 miles at a great price. :nono My favorite car on the lot!! Forgive the marketing, but these cars need to be driven and sold at fair prices.

I checked out some reviews and articles on the 08 vettes. Chevy was made some suspension and handling changes for 08. From what I've heard they 07's and the 08's feel a lot different from each other. I did notice with the 'Vette when I was cornering that it did feel slightly "dead" I wonder if this was one of the changes they made to make it more forgiving. I guess I will just have to man up and go down to BMW and ask to test drive an M3. The worse they can say is no.

I'm going with the C6. I currently drive an E36 M3.

The new M3 is a small displacement engine, and miracle that it is with it's torque curve, max hp doesn't come on until redline. Yes the torque is there, but with the M3 gearing, the max acceleration doesn't come until you are at the upper reaches. The LS3 Corvette is much more relaxed. Huge torque and hp are available much lower (it falls off of course as you approach redline, which of course is much more conservative on a pushrod engine), and this is more like real world driving.

Let's not forget that the C6 is 3200 lbs (same weight as my 1998 M3), with 436 hp. The new M3 has about the same hp, but an additional 400 or more lbs to lug around.

If you've read the magazines, you know that the 2008 had a steering rack change on the C6 that reduced numbness, and turning effort in corners. 2009 gets a variable ratio rack, not previously used on the C6. The C6 comes with runflats, which don't do noise, handling and feedback any favors. Ditching them for PS2s restores a lot. I also suspect that changing front end bushings may also increase road feel through the steering wheel.

No, there is no backseat on the C6 so that part of the value for the money is missing, but the C6 has magnetic shocks ($1900), HUD and actual gauges in the instrument cluster (oil, battery, coolant) for less than the base (no options) M3 and far better aftermarket support (including California - often left out by BMW aftermarket vendors other than Dinan).

I was at Englishtown when the showroom stock LS3 Vette record was set. 11.7 in a base model - no suspension package or upgraded exhaust.

I really think it's apples and oranges. I would think the M3 would be more luxurious on the inside and it has a back seat. And if you are willing to pay 60k+ for an M3, you should consider a Z06 - they can be had for $65k-$68k.

Test drive them both and go from there. It's your money, not ours and you have to drive it, not us.

I would think the M3 would be the more practical of the 2 if that is something that matters to the buyer.

I would think the M3 would be the more practical of the 2 if that is something that matters to the buyer.

Agreed - I don't even put the two cars in the same class.

I'd love a new M3 - something I could take the family out to dinner in and still hotrod around by myself.

I am trying to decide between the two. I have read the other forum, but what is everyones opinion on resale? The price is pretty relative, 60,000 for the base m3... 53,000 for the vette. Now a well equiped m3 is 70,000, but then you might as well compare to the ZO6. WOW. I really like the way the M3 drives.

my girls dad has a 08 vette, not really my thing. i also dont like the barbaric engine.

but then again, im not really sold about the new m3. its just too much, too MUCH stuff.

as for new cars, im a porsche only guy (ok ferrari too lol)

I am trying to decide between the two. I have read the other forum, but what is everyones opinion on resale? The price is pretty relative, 60,000 for the base m3... 53,000 for the vette. Now a well equiped m3 is 70,000, but then you might as well compare to the ZO6. WOW. I really like the way the M3 drives.I would go with the M not to be biased but if I was to get something like a vett I would build my own project car for fraction of that price. Thats all I see in a Vett a huge powerfull engine and a bullet shaped body...M3 on the other hand has some German engineering behind it:redspot..In the end of the day test drive both and whichever feels funner to drive should be your choice.

I would go with the M.

You couldn't go wrong with either purchase. Personally I would prefer the M3 though.

I love the M3 and the C6/Z06. The LS3 and LS7 engines are both very well-engineered. It's not as simple as "huge engine + light car." The LS7 has titanium connecting rods, forged crank, 11:1 compression, is handbuilt, etc., etc... it's pretty sick. The LS3 with a few bolt-ons and tune can get awful close to LS7 power numbers, btw.

Having said all that, The Corvette's probably tough to deal with as a year-rounder. I've driven my friend's '07 Z06 twice, and it's terrifying. I gave it 3/4 throttle in 3rd from about 60, and it nailed me to the seat... at which point I immediately let off (the fear of wrecking your buddy's $70k ride will do it to you). The torque is simply insane: 400+ from 1500 to near redline. If you love that kind of low-end grunt, either Vette has it in spades, whereas the M3 is more of a high-revving affair.

I guess what I'm saying is if that I were looking for a year-round DD, it'd be the M3. But if it was just a pure weekender I was after, I'd probably go Z06. Just my two cents.

True that:devillook

The cars are so different, comparison is kind of pointless, seems to me. I've owned two E46 M3's, a C5 ZO6, C6 Z51, and now a C6 ZO6. I think the M3 is the best sports sedan available. To me, that segment is defined as a car offering a rear seat and trunk, capable of serving your needs every day. The Corvette is, IMO, the best sports car value available. I do a lot of track schools, and the ZO6 is fully competent for that with no mods. It is a wonderfully balanced chassis, plenty of power, relatively inexpensive to maintain. If offers a fun factor that can't be matched by the M3. But yes, it's a plastic Chevy made by the same company that makes your neighbors ugly Cobalt. But I will also add, if every GM plant made cars like Bowling Green does, GM would not be in its current mess.

The cars are so different, comparison is kind of pointless, seems to me. I've owned two E46 M3's, a C5 ZO6, C6 Z51, and now a C6 ZO6. I think the M3 is the best sports sedan available. To me, that segment is defined as a car offering a rear seat and trunk, capable of serving your needs every day. The Corvette is, IMO, the best sports car value available. I do a lot of track schools, and the ZO6 is fully competent for that with no mods. It is a wonderfully balanced chassis, plenty of power, relatively inexpensive to maintain. If offers a fun factor that can't be matched by the M3. But yes, it's a plastic Chevy made by the same company that makes your neighbors ugly Cobalt. But I will also add, if every GM plant made cars like Bowling Green does, GM would not be in its current mess.

Probably the best comparison of the two cars I have ever read. I just sold a E46 M3 after 99,980 very hard miles. I loved that car to death and was sad to see it go. Out with the old and in with the new though :) In 2 very long months my e92 M3 Coupe delivers and im going nuts with anticipation. The next two months will be spent on my Harley lol.

Anyway I couldnt agree more. The Z06 is one hell of a beast and great track car. I can only afford one car, at least at this price range, and the M3 is absolutely the best car for the job. Living in Chicago, with all the snow we get, all I need is a set of snow tires on the 19" and I am perfectly fine. Only one bent rim in 99,980 miles lol, but luckily BMW repalced the entire set about 8 times due to the shitty finish allowing the brake dust to stain.

Anyway, i had to register just to say that that was the best comparison of the two cars I have ever read and you did it in a paragraph lol. +10 :)

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My personal opinion;

Corvettes are like belly buttons., everybody has 'em and who really cares....

Flame on, but, remember it's my opinion....

i also dont like the barbaric engine.


This made me laugh :lol

Barbaric...Umm, okay...

The LS3 and LS7 are state of the art. Generating that kind of horsepower and torque, meeting emissions regulations, and keeping the car fuel efficient...(pretty dang good MPG) all while remaining lightweight and space efficient, is not an easy task, and only something that can come from decades of development.

Maybe not as buzz word, or gizmo intense as the M powerplant, but pretty advanced in its own arena.

I have an LS6 in my 1994 RX7... The engine is probably the best feature of the car! :)

Wow ten fifteen is that a custom color ? That has to be one of the nicest Blue Bimmers I have ever seen what is the color name ?