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They state that both are 100% the same except the chrome backing, yet the umnitzas look better with a much more even pattern.

Why is this?

They state that both are 100% the same except the chrome backing, yet the umnitzas look better with a much more even pattern.

Why is this?
just the fact they feel the need to convince you that they are the same speaks volumes...
we do not compare ours to anyone's, we sell them, thats it.
Orion is an original and exclusive product, no one else has chromium, no one else has orion no matter how much they try to convince you, no matter how many pics they post.

They state that both are 100% the same except the chrome backing, yet the umnitzas look better with a much more even pattern.

Why is this?

http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycarrpredatorcomparison02.jpg

I don't know, they look the same to me :dunno

Unless you mean these from the second post which is a comparison of the CCFL ring (left) to the LED ring.

*edit* and in fairness, not really applicable to the topic they are posted in

http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled10.jpg

pictures are nothing like real life not to mention they are posted by a vendor who has an interest in making believe..
ever hear of photoshop?? you can make anything look like pretty much... well...anything.
feel free to contact the factory, they will confirm the exclusivity and difference between both products, they know after all they make it.

pictures are nothing like real life not to mention they are posted by a vendor who has an interest in making believe..
ever hear of photoshop?? you can make anything look like pretty much... well...anything.

they don't look photoshopped to me but i'm no expert...

are you saying that in your honest opinion you believe the pics to have been photoshopped or are you simply making a statement just to make a statement?

they don't look photoshopped to me but i'm no expert...

are you saying that in your honest opinion you believe the pics to have been photoshopped or are you simply making a statement just to make a statement?

first off neither you or i know what rings they used, they could of used the same ones, they could be photochopped, they could be many things, a vendor comparing his product to some other product he cannot get or sell is not exactly, lets just say unbiased he does have a vested interest in fooling people.
when both products are compared by a retailer who sells both it would have more credability, until then its a sales pitch plain and simple and reeks of BS.

My bad I thought they were comparing the umnitza orion led to the mycarr led.

I'd like to see that comparative shot!

first off neither you or i know what rings they used, they could of used the same ones, they could be photochopped, they could be many things, a vendor comparing his product to some other product he cannot get or sell is not exactly, lets just say unbiased he does have a vested interest in fooling people.
when both products are compared by a retailer who sells both it would have more credability, until then its a sales pitch plain and simple and reeks of BS.

you love to talk in circles don't you? yes they could be photoshopped, yes who knows what rings they really used in the comparison but one can say the same about any picture you post right? everything you said is valid but does not really help the consumer make a good choice. i asked you a simple question...in your honest opinion do you believe the pictures to be photoshopped? i would pretty much consider you an expert on the subject and if you "see" something fishy about pics posted by a vendor or anyone for that matter, you should point it out so that consumers are not deceived.

i'm not trying to make you lose business or anything but i think it's important to give consumers useful information.

we all know about your exclusive name and trademark so yes in that sense your products are different but what about in form and function? obviously the chrome back makes it different, but is there anything else significant? significant enough to justify the price difference? that's what consumers want to know. because honestly when installed, they look pretty much the same to me.

My bad I thought they were comparing the umnitza orion led to the mycarr led.

I'd like to see that comparative shot!

+1

you love to talk in circles don't you? yes they could be photoshopped, yes who knows what rings they really used in the comparison but one can say the same about any picture you post right? everything you said is valid but does not really help the consumer make a good choice. i asked you a simple question...in your honest opinion do you believe the pictures to be photoshopped?

i'm not trying to make you lose business or anything but i think it's important to give consumers useful information.

we all know about your exclusive name and trademark so yes in that sense your products are different but what about in form and function? obviously the chrome back makes it different, but is there anything else significant? significant enough to justify the price difference? that's what consumers want to know. because honestly when installed, they look pretty much the same to me.
until you look at them for yourself side by side in person you will never know and you can't state anything honestly, if pictures and claims are good enough for you and you rather buy a knock off then the original article thats perfectly fine.

the products are much different in much more then just names and trademarks, there can only be one original, by default the rest are knockoffs, "exactly the same only missing certain components".
it took them 4 years to knock off the Chromiums and they are still not the same.

anyone selling angel eyes compares and even steals the names chromium and orion, ask yourself why, the answer is simple.
im not knocking anyone else's product so none of you have to get defensive, their products may very well be very nice BUT THEY ARE NOT CHROMIUM OR ORION and the fact they name them as such and claim they have them is an outright lie, why KNOWINGLY lie?? the answer is pretty simple.

Can you post pictures side by side showing the differences? What parts/materials in the orions are different from the knock offs? The LED quality? Ring quality etc?

End of story.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/robo848/not_this_shit_again.jpg

Can you post pictures side by side showing the differences? What parts/materials in the orions are different from the knock offs? The LED quality? Ring quality etc?

we dont do side by sides, we can and only will speak and post pics of our products we leave the gong and pony show for others.
if you want the original engineered product buy ours if you want a replica buy the replica, im not knocking their product im knocking their sales tactics and antics.