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tom @ eas 04-09-2008, 04:25 PM A lot of confusion has been presented on Angel Eyes lately on what kit to get, what technology is better, best vendor, etc. we're hoping to better answer some questions informing you the customer 100% before making a purchase.
We have been getting a lot of inquiries on the specific differences between the kits. This is meant for informative proposes only showing a pictorial comparison of the details.
Most Angel eyes on the market are manufactured by MYCARR and RaceDash, 2 manufacturers based in Taiwan. For this FAQ, we'll concentrate on the MYCARR versions which cover most BMWs on the market.
CCFL Angel Eyes:
Here are the MYCARR and Chromium Angel Eyes showing the box contents. MYCARR Angel Eyes do not come with a wiring harness from factory, this is added in before shipping. Both kits offer a "remote feature" which allow the Angel Eyes to fade on/off with a press of the key remote.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycarrpredatorcomparison.jpg
For this image, we are using the umnitza ballast, which is the same as the ones included in the MYCARR kits.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycarrpredatorcomparison02.jpg
Closeup shot of the ring backing, MYCARR on the left, unmitza on the right. The MYCARR units use an opaque design instead to prevent light bleeding on the back of the ring, and direct the lighting forward for maximum visibility.
Notice the casting tabs are in the exact same location on both rings. Ring mounting clips are also identical.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycvspred01.jpg
Comparison of MYCARR on the right and chromiums on the left. We choose a black background to show the rear light bleedoff from the rear. There is a tiny bit of difference between the two since the umnitza versions use the chrome sticker on the rear, but very minimal compared to the MYCARR brand. For forward visibility, there is 0 difference.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycvspred02.jpg
Comparison shot of MYCARR on left and chromium on right. This is to show rear light bleedoff.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycvspred03.jpg
And of course - the finished shot:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/mycarre461_main.jpg
tom @ eas 04-09-2008, 04:26 PM LED Angel Eyes
The LED Angel Eye kits are the newest kit from MYCARR. Instead of using inverters and CCFL tubes, the inverters are discarded and light is emitted through an array of 30 LEDs on each Angel Eye ring. This simplifies the kit since there are less parts and eliminates the "cold start" issues that has plagued those in colder climates. The same wiring harness is used for both kits.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled07.jpg
MYCARR LED on right, Predator Chromium on left- powered down
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled08.jpg
MYCARR LED on right, Predator Chromium on left - 100% power
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled10.jpg
MYCARR LED on right, Predator Chromium on left - 100% power (alternate shot)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled09.jpg
MYCARR LED on right, Predator Chromium on left - 100% power (left angled shot)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled10.jpg
MYCARR LED on right, Predator Chromium on left - 100% power (right angled shot)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled06.jpg
MYCARR LED ring closeup - powered down to show LED array
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled05.jpg
MYCARR LED ring closeup - powered up to show lit LED array
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled15.jpg
Chromium/MYCARR LED mounting clip comparison
The clipping mechanism is the most interesting as this was a product that was in the "design process" for over a year - yet was not corrected. Both CCFL and LED kits share the exact ring which has remained unchanged for over 4 years as evidenced by the clips and casting tabs. This means that the inside clip will still need to be clipped halfway on the headlamps as required in prior versions. Also in this photo, you'll notice the power/ground wires on the LED kits both enter on the left hand side of the ring, this is the same with the Orion brand.
Installed photos
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled12.jpg
MYCARR LED on left, Predator Chromium on right installed on MY02 M3
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled14.jpg
MYCARR LEDs powered down. Lens cover and corner are removed for pictures and to reduce camera glare.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled12.jpg
MYCARR LED on left, Predator Chromium on right - 75% power
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled13.jpg
MYCARR LED on left, Predator Chromium on right - full power
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/mycarr/led/mbmw/mycarrled02.jpg
MYCARR LED on left, Predator Chromium on right - Distant shot to show brightness and uniformity
tom @ eas 04-09-2008, 04:26 PM For the most frequently asked questions, we have provided a FAQ to better inform you before making a purchase.
Angel Eye FAQ (CCFL):
What are the differences between the MYCARR CCFL Angel Eyes and Predator Chromiums?
Price - as both kits are manufactured by MYCARR. There is no difference other than the Chromiums use a chrome backing to reduce light bleedoff while the MYCARR branded boxes use an opaque backing. Both kits offer a lifetime warranty.
Is one Angel Eye brand kit (CCFL) noticeably brighter than the other?
No. both kits are manufactured by MYCARR, they are the same other than packaging and the chrome vs. opaque backing. After installation, it is impossible to spot any differences.
I often hear the MYCARRs referred to as "generic" - is this true?
Absolutely not as seen by the comparison. These are the same product from the original manufacturer. We do not rebox the kit can call it something else.
What about UV coating? The Chromiums state this as a feature?
UV coating is not a "feature" and is part of the polycarbonate material that is used to manufacture the ring - the same material as the MYCARR brand. More information on polycarbonate can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
Are your inverters different then Chromiums?
No - the inverters used are unbranded from MYCARR.
What are the differences between the MYCARR and Predator wiring harnesses?
MYCARR does not manufacture a wiring harness. We include a wiring harness with all kits before shipping that features a heavy duty 30A relay, power/ground leads and terminal connectors - the exact harness found in the Chromiums. Both brand harnesses also have the "remote feature" while allow the Angel Eyes to fade on/off with the key remote.
Do you offer a Lifetime warranty on the MYCARR CCFL kits?
Yes - we match the competition by offering a no-hassle lifetime warranty on all MYCARR Angel Eye kits.
Angel Eye FAQ (LED):
What are the differences between the MYCARR LED Angel Eyes and Predator Orions?
None - as both kits are manufactured by MYCARR. There is no difference other than the Orions feature a chrome backing - which is pointless for 2 reasons:
1 - LEDs are directional and will emit light facing forward
2 - Even if bleeding was possible, the circuit board the LEDs are mounted to would prevent any light bleed. Both kits offer a lifetime warranty.
What are the differences between the mounting clips on the MYCARR LED Angel Eyes and Predator Orions?
None, the rings have remained unchanged since the beginning. If these were indeed "redesigned", this would have been taken care of from the start.
I often hear the MYCARRs referred to as "generic" - is this true?
Absolutely not as seen by the comparison. These are the same product from the original manufacturer. We do not rebox the kit can call it something else.
What about UV coating? The Orions state this as a feature?
As with the Chromiums and MYCARR CCFLs, UV coating is not a "feature" and is part of the polycarbonate material that is used to manufacture the ring - the same material as the MYCARR brand. More information on polycarbonate can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
The Orions state to have a "more finished" look - do yours?
This is more marketing hype. As of this post, we have seen no evidence to support this claim.
Can you state the similarities or differences between Orion and MYCARR?
Differences:
- Packaging: The Orions are reboxed, the MYCARRs will come in their original boxes from MYCARR
- Backing: The Orions have a chrome backing, which serve no purpose in a LED environment. The MYCARRs have a white coating on the rear of the circuit board. No bleeding or "fisheye" effect is seen after installation.
Similarities:
- Both kits are manufactured by MYCARR.
- Both kits have use the same mounting clips.
- Both kits feature a 30 LED array in each ring.
- Both kits use the same Angel Eye ring as the CCFL versions.
- Both kits have power/ground wires entering on the left side of the ring.
- Both kits include a heavy duty wiring harness, with remote feature.
- Both kits offer a lifetime warranty.
tom @ eas 04-09-2008, 04:27 PM MYCARR CCFL Angel Eyes:
Here's a short video of the kit in action showing the remote feature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2_D8xwuhs4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0VNj1WRCk
MYCARR LED Angel Eyes:
Below will show videos of the MYCARR LED Angel Eye Kit in action along with a comparison of the MYCARR LEDs vs. Predator Chromiums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB02B6_XOwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBCPJXWeG4
This should put any future comparisons to rest as the products are 99% the same. This now levels the playing field and forces vendors to work on merit & customer service rather than claiming a "niche" product as evidenced in the past.
In the end, we've at least seen better pricing from the competition since our introduction on these products since there is no longer a monopoly in the lighting market, making it a win/win situation for all.
This will continue to change.
jonjon0nline 04-09-2008, 05:22 PM Why would MyCarr buy Umnitza angel eyes, remove the chrome sticker, and sell for way less? :confused
BTW- Good post! I'm picking up a set of angel eyes again really soon. I'm just waiting to see some pics of them on an E36 besides those hideous ones posted before.
95///M3 04-09-2008, 06:29 PM This is how all posts regarding the crazy world of lighting should be made. Very informative. Great job!
tom @ eas 04-10-2008, 02:50 PM Why would MyCarr buy Umnitza angel eyes, remove the chrome sticker, and sell for way less? :confused
BTW- Good post! I'm picking up a set of angel eyes again really soon. I'm just waiting to see some pics of them on an E36 besides those hideous ones posted before.
Be one of the first - we're still offering a $50 credit to those that can provide pictures for install photos.
Jackson334 04-10-2008, 04:56 PM This is a great no B.S. post - very informative!
Should be in the lighting section though
tom @ eas 04-10-2008, 05:29 PM This is a great no B.S. post - very informative!
Should be in the lighting section though
We would - but you know what happens in that section - the post wouldn't last long at all. Feel free to link as necessary.
jonjon0nline 04-10-2008, 06:43 PM Be one of the first - we're still offering a $50 credit to those that can provide pictures for install photos.
PM me on the price. I have a spiffy DSLR I'd be able to whore out a bit.
CT Sean 04-10-2008, 07:03 PM Awesome post. If only someone could do the same for Depo "gen IV's"
tom @ eas 04-10-2008, 08:39 PM PM me on the price. I have a spiffy DSLR I'd be able to whore out a bit.
You have PM.
phillie 04-11-2008, 04:03 AM pm'd
LuvMy328is 04-11-2008, 01:26 PM The LED's certainly are not my cup of tea. Yes they are a bit brighter, but IMHO the multiple points of light look terrible.
OTOH, the Mycarr rings look like a great value.
~Phil
Imperialduckm3 04-11-2008, 01:54 PM Why would MyCarr buy Umnitza angel eyes, remove the chrome sticker, and sell for way less? :confused
BTW- Good post! I'm picking up a set of angel eyes again really soon. I'm just waiting to see some pics of them on an E36 besides those hideous ones posted before.
It's the other way around -- Umnitza buys from MyCarr. Very good information. I always wanted to see them during dusk (night). :buttrock
LuvMy328is 04-11-2008, 02:06 PM It's the other way around -- Umnitza buys from MyCarr. Very good information. I always wanted to see them during dusk (night). :buttrock
That makes perfect sense. There is nothing wrong with that, it gives us consumers more choices and price points.
~Phil
nixbimmr 04-11-2008, 02:22 PM Thanks for laying that all out
sounds great.....gb price?
tom @ eas 04-11-2008, 09:10 PM Thanks for laying that all out
sounds great.....gb price?
Possibly, we have plenty of kits in stock for those that do not want to wait.
It's the other way around -- Unnitza buys from MyCarr. Very good information. I always wanted to see them during dusk (night). :buttrock
Jonjon was being sarcastic. Thanks for clarifying though in case others didn't know this.
BTW, good info Tom!
FSUhorizon 04-13-2008, 02:10 AM This is a great no B.S. post - very informative!
Should be in the lighting section though
We would - but you know what happens in that section - the post wouldn't last long at all. Feel free to link as necessary.
Yes, yes we do:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=971063
Jackson334 04-13-2008, 12:44 PM Yes, yes we do:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=971063
yeah that forum is somewhat of a joke now. it's supposed to be a place where folks can get accurate information on products but often times when someone posts something that doesn't say habbie's products are the best then it ends up getting locked/deleted.
another example:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=980098
CrazyCoder 04-13-2008, 01:23 PM Very informative post! Nice to see a retailer saying, "Here's the info, take from it what you will"
Honestly, can't say I like the new LED units.
tom @ eas 04-13-2008, 07:01 PM yeah that forum is somewhat of a joke now. it's supposed to be a place where folks can get accurate information on products but often times when someone posts something that doesn't say habbie's products are the best then it ends up getting locked/deleted.
another example:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=980098
Exactly the reason we didn't post in the lighting forum. To make things perfectly clear:
- No pictures were photoshopped in any way.
- This is strictly a comparison, forum members are intelligent enough to make their own decisions.
- MYCARR is the manufacturer of both Angel Eye kits - we simply do not rebox them and call them something they're not.
If a product is clearly superior, then there would be no reason to be defensive - it would sell on its own merit and past performance. Customer service is a whole different story - a forum search under that specific vendor's name will indicate that.
Customers have the final say when deciding whom to purchase from since there's no longer a monopoly in the lighting market. We're just here to let you know what you're getting into before handing over your hard-earned money.
Nismode 04-13-2008, 08:50 PM I like the uniformity and less blue look of the Chromiums compared to the LED's. Now we need a comparison of MYCARR LED's to the Orions...
tom @ eas 04-13-2008, 09:09 PM I like the uniformity and less blue look of the Chromiums compared to the LED's. Now we need a comparison of MYCARR LED's to the Orions...
There is 0 difference other than a chrome backing on the Orions, this is covered in post #3:
What are the differences between the MYCARR LED Angel Eyes and Predator Orions?
None - as both kits are manufactured by MYCARR. There is no difference other than the Orions feature a chrome backing - which is pointless for 2 reasons:
1 - LEDs are directional and will emit light facing forward
2 - Even if bleeding was possible, the circuit board the LEDs are mounted to would prevent any light bleed. Both kits offer a lifetime warranty.
dunesforyou 04-14-2008, 10:49 PM Be one of the first - we're still offering a $50 credit to those that can provide pictures for install photos.
how much would it be for them with and without the rebate
tom @ eas 04-14-2008, 10:54 PM how much would it be for them with and without the rebate
Pricing is on our website:
MYCARR - LED Angel Eye Kit (most BMWs)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/product_info.php?cPath=67_193_355&products_id=1852
$50 Store credit would be presented with full installation/finished photos. We only have 2 spots left, so act quickly if interested.
tom @ eas 04-16-2008, 08:50 PM 1 spot left!
dirsh 04-25-2008, 05:43 AM I wish I could've bought these instead of paying 2 bills for my chromiums
tokbandit 04-25-2008, 11:02 AM you forgot to do Predator Thinline angel eyes.........I still like them better...
tom @ eas 04-30-2008, 03:21 PM you forgot to do Predator Thinline angel eyes.........I still like them better...
Won't be doing a comparison with the thinlines, it's simply a CCFL tube, the same one that is used in the MYCARR CCFL kits.
tom @ eas 05-05-2008, 01:23 PM Stay tuned - new announcement coming soon. :)
will the ccfl kit work on a 02 525i?
tom @ eas 05-18-2008, 08:19 PM will the ccfl kit work on a 02 525i?
You already have Angel Eyes from BMW, you would only need a simple LED upgrade:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/slideshow/mycarr/lede39/mycarrled39_05.jpg
MYCARR - LED OEM Angel Eye Upgrade kit (most BMWs)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/product_info.php?products_id=1641
Auraraptor 06-14-2008, 06:52 PM Are the LEDs the same? :shifty The pictures you show (here: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12689535&postcount=2) show that one brand has a much more continuous band of beam and the other a more collected "points of light" appearance. Why is that? *confused*
tom @ eas 06-14-2008, 07:07 PM Are the LEDs the same? :shifty The pictures you show (here: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12689535&postcount=2) show that one brand has a much more continuous band of beam and the other a more collected "points of light" appearance. Why is that? *confused*
The 5-series has a different kit since AEs come as original equipment since 2001.
e46s were never equipped with Angel Eyes from BMW.
Auraraptor 06-14-2008, 07:11 PM The 5-series has a different kit since AEs come as original equipment since 2001.
e46s were never equipped with Angel Eyes from BMW.
Sorry, I didn't clarify my post. What I meant to say was back in Post 3 you state both are, in effect, the same. Yet, in Post 2 (cited), the beam design looks different to me? :confused
Also, how did you modulate power to only 75%? I think it looks much better at that level (each his own).
tom @ eas 06-14-2008, 07:20 PM Sorry, I didn't clarify my post. What I meant to say was back in Post 3 you state both are, in effect, the same. Yet, in Post 2 (cited), the beam design looks different to me? :confused
Also, how did you modulate power to only 75%? I think it looks much better at that level (each his own).
the clipping design and rings are the same - the only difference is LED vs CCFL.
Power delivery is controlled in pictures using a regulated supply in order to reduce excessive camera glare.
Auraraptor 06-14-2008, 07:23 PM the clipping design and rings are the same - the only difference is LED vs CCFL.
Power delivery is controlled in pictures using a regulated supply in order to reduce excessive camera glare.
Ah, I understand now. Thanks for the clarification! I am going to use this thread when I get a kit for my car down the road. :cool (when it is out of the shop that is)
sweet97 06-14-2008, 11:04 PM Hey Tom,
You've provided some great information in this thread. I've sent you a message through the "Contact Us" form on the EAS web site... but in case you don't get that, here are a few questions for you:
I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. How will our winter temperatures affect the Angel Eyes? I definitely like the look of the CCFL units much better than the LED style. Have the cold temperature issues with the inverters been rectified?
On that note, is there any plans to have the new Auroras made to fit the E36 series? They sound like the best of both worlds.
I have a 1997 328i Sedan and would like to put a set of European Ellipsoid/Projector style headlights in it with HID low beams and also Angel Eyes. You only carry Apexcone and Depo headlights, can you get ZKWs on request? Everything I've read about the different headlights has me leaning on spending a little more for ZKWs so I'm not upset with the Depos.
And finally regarding the HIDs... I think I just want a set with 35W ballasts as I will only use them on the street. Are the 55W just über bright and likely to piss off other motorists? For the color temperature, I'm looking for pure white light... what's the difference between 4500K and 5000K?
Cheers
sweet97 06-14-2008, 11:05 PM I almost forgot, do you ship to Canada?
jurrianT 06-16-2008, 12:37 PM I almost forgot, do you ship to Canada?
Yes we do :D
tom @ eas 06-16-2008, 12:56 PM Hey Tom,
You've provided some great information in this thread. I've sent you a message through the "Contact Us" form on the EAS web site... but in case you don't get that, here are a few questions for you:
I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. How will our winter temperatures affect the Angel Eyes? I definitely like the look of the CCFL units much better than the LED style. Have the cold temperature issues with the inverters been rectified?
The CCFLs will get brighter as they warm up, cold weather can affect them on startup. LEDs do not have this issue.
On that note, is there any plans to have the new Auroras made to fit the E36 series? They sound like the best of both worlds.
I have a 1997 328i Sedan and would like to put a set of European Ellipsoid/Projector style headlights in it with HID low beams and also Angel Eyes. You only carry Apexcone and Depo headlights, can you get ZKWs on request? Everything I've read about the different headlights has me leaning on spending a little more for ZKWs so I'm not upset with the Depos.
aurora will not fit in euro/US/ZKW headlamps, but will fit on those with projectors (commonly called P36s) using the DEPO or Apexcone brand.
And finally regarding the HIDs... I think I just want a set with 35W ballasts as I will only use them on the street. Are the 55W just über bright and likely to piss off other motorists? For the color temperature, I'm looking for pure white light... what's the difference between 4500K and 5000K?
Cheers
Go 55W on your headlamps for maximum light output. If your lights are aimed properly, you will not blind oncoming traffic. For maximum whiteness, use a 5K color temperature.
decepticons7 06-19-2008, 07:33 PM Great Thread!
Would you mine adding the a history section? Wiki style? For example, when and on what model the oem technology first appeared.
tom @ eas 06-24-2008, 04:06 PM Installed on a 2003 M3:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/aurora001.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/aurora002.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/aurora003.jpg
Here are some short videos of the kit in action showing the remote feature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIjd8_MznMc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAO7KZ6EV9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mTRIhBNBcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5AtcWiFPg
These are engineered to simply be the best and brightest Angel Eye kit on the market. Those in the Orange County area are welcome to come by and see the kit in person.
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:18 PM Next on the comparison would be the aurora and “Orion II”. Unlike previous offerings, Orion is no longer manufactured from MYCARR, with both kits privately made. Aurora is designed by eas, targeting shortcomings of previous angel eye kits to make this the best kit on the market. Both kits are LED based in order to transition away from troublesome inverters, cold-start issues and long life as LEDs have a 10 year continuous lifespan.
Bench Testing
Below is a comparison of the rings, notice the visible LEDs in Orion II, aurora’s ring is designed to diffuse the light for a more uniform look and mask the LEDs to offer an OEM-like appearance. Our Orion II kit arrived in a USPS box with 4 rings, resistor packs and wiring harness – no instructions were included.
Comparison will focus on rings only since wiring harnesses have not changed between kits.
Now on to the testing….
Pictured from left to right – Orion II, aurora and Chromium/MYCARR in OFF position. Note the different sized ring used in Orion II, we’ll be coming back to this in a short while:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp01.jpg
Powered comparison of rings @ 13.7V, typical driving voltage:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp09.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp10.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp11.jpg
Powered comparison at 12.6V, typical operation voltage with engine OFF:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp08.jpg
Next will be minimum operating voltage required to power up rings. Powered comparison of rings at 10.0V, note Orion II starting to fade:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp05.jpg
Powered comparison at 9.1V, aurora and Chromium/MYCARR still almost fully illuminated, Orion II almost powered off:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp06.jpg
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:18 PM Inner workings/Design
Next, we’ll concentrate on design. In the past, CCFL angel eyes were consisted of 4 major parts:
- invertors (commonly called ballasts, but inverter is proper name)
- Ring housing with Clipping mechanisms
- CCFL tube
- Wiring harness
The inverters were the most problematic of the design, with some failing within weeks after installation from moisture or poor design. The Clipping mechanisms used were poor and commonly slipped off headlight housings if not glued into place – a design that was not changed for over 5 years.
The most dramatic change would be the light source itself, moving away from CCFL and to LED-based technology. Both Orion II and aurora use a 60LED array for lighting, but that’s where the similarities end.
aurora was designed to be modular, with a separable circuitboard, mounting clips, polycarbonate ring/lens and resistors needed for LED operation is integrated into the ring backing for a simple design, allowing for any of the pieces to be replaced easily if broken or lost. Orion II is quite the opposite, with the mounting clips and ring fastened to the circuitboard, making replacements (if needed) requiring a new ring. Below is Orion II removed from the ring lens, effectively destroying it in order to remove it – obviously not manufactured to be taken apart:
Orion II sans polycarb ring:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp12.jpg
Once of the most noticeable differences was that Orion II uses an external resistor pack/distribution block that is mounted into the engine bay and wrapped with heat shrink, but not waterproof. Below are images of the resistor packs with and without shrink tubing:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp13.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp14.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp15.jpg
Below is a comparison of aurora and Orion II, aurora has the resistors integrated into the ring for simplicity, removing the need for resistor packs. Since the ring is completely housed within the headlamp, it is completely weatherproof. Wiring used is 16-18AWG on both kits with 1 pair of leads for aurora and 2 pairs for Orion II:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp16.jpg
Rear closeup of ring circuitboards, aurora on left and Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp17.jpg
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:19 PM Bench Lighting
Next is bench lighting. Rings were bench tested at 12.5V, simulating an ignition OFF environment to compare brightness. As seen in the 30LED kits, considerable gaps can be seen if the LEDs are not positioned close together, and losing that uniform look we are trying to achieve.
Powered comparison at 12.5, aurora on left, Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp19.jpg
Alternate view:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp20.jpg
Head on view, showing noticeable gaps/LEDs in Orion II:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp21.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp22.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp26.jpg
Angled shots from side:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp23.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp24.jpg
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:19 PM Mounting clips
Angel eyes have a horrible reputation for mounting since the same clipping design has been used for the past 5 years. The low-beam requires the ring be placed on a slight angle. In an effort likely to reduce cost, the same mounting clips were used on all 4 rings on both mounting points.
aurora’s first job was to correct this and introduced multi-stage mounting clips offering precision alignment and a secure “bite” onto the headlight housings. Orion II followed shortly thereafter releasing multi-positional mounting clips, also offers precise alignment in mounting.
Unfortunately, Orion II mounting clips are part of the ring design, meaning if a clip is broken – the entire ring must be replaced. Aurora offers removable mounting clips in order to be replaced easily if needed.
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp27.jpg
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:20 PM Reverse Light Testing - Back to Back
Most will ask why we did this. This test is to show light bleed patterns from an illuminated ring. Note the uniform look from aurora and “sprocket” effect from Orion II showing improper light diffusion and LED spacing.
Aurora on left, Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp33.jpg
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:20 PM Ring Fitment
Here we come to one of the most important factors in Angel Eyes – Ring appearance and fitment. Angel eyes have to look just as good in the OFF position as they do when illuminated or risk cheapening the visual look of your BMW in a matter of an afternoon.
You’ll remember back on bench testing we noted the different sized rings when comparing to Chromium/MYCARR and aurora. Orion has a slightly smaller ring, which we’re puzzled by this route was taken since it is a step backwards.
Shown below are aurora and Orion II rings. Both are constructed out of polycarbonate, which is high-strength and offers UV protection from yellowing. As stated earlier, you will notice the rings are different sized in comparison.
While color temperature is slightly different - light output from the LEDs is exactly the same between aurora and Orion II. Earlier, we talked about light diffusion and how aurora was designed to properly diffuse the light for a more uniform look. Orion II took a different route with a clear ring lens, which slightly magnifies the light output for a simulated higher output LED, which it is not. In conclusion, this also gives the ring a thicker, bloated appearance. In effect – this also magnifies the LEDs appearance when turned off.
Ring/Lens comparison - aurora on left, Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp50.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp51.jpg
As a refresher, here’s a comparison of the rings as seen at the beginning. Pictured from left to right – Orion II, aurora and MYCARR/Chromium:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp01.jpg
Orion II in fixed mounted position. While all 4 rings are the same size in the kit received, the rings are noticeable smaller in the high beam and does not look proper. Low beam/projector looks slightly better:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp34.jpg
The major focus of aurora was ring clearance. Earlier kits are known to have contact with headlight housings with some requiring dremeling in order to clear the rings. Excuses in the past were blamed on the BMW, not the rings. We believe the rings should fit the car, not require the vehicle be modified in order to fit the angel eye kit. Most may not know this is a concern but will see slight rubbing marks when upgrading or replacing bad rings.
The first thing we noticed on Orion II was this point was still not improved upon. The rings were making contact with our headlight housings on the upper right and upper left hand potions of the rings.
Closeup shot of Orion II high beam ring with shroud replaced: making contact in 10 o clock position:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp35.jpg
Closeup shot of Orion II low beam/projector ring with shroud replaced: making contact in 2 o clock position:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp36.jpg
Wiring length may or may not be a concern on the external resistor pack of Orion II. We were greeted with about 1.5-2 inches of length when exiting the headlamp.:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp37.jpg
Aurora was designed to clear all headlight housings, fitting properly on the headlight housing. Notice the ring end points meeting directly underneath the chrome housing for clearance.
Remember we spoke about ring sizing in the past? These images will show aurora’s ring properly filling the reflective housing perimeter– looking more at home with the vehicle as if it was OEM equipment:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp38.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp39.jpg
Extended view:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp40.jpg
Angled shots showing proper headlight housing ring clearance:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp41.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp42.jpg
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 01:21 PM Aurora/Orion II Comparison – Daytime illumination:
Here is a comparison of aurora and Orion II installed on a 2002 BMW M3 to show ring illumination. Note the bloated effect we were speaking of earlier due to the magnification of the lens on Orion II which may or may not be to your preference.
Aurora on left, Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp43.jpg
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp44.jpg
Overhead shot, note individual LEDs beginning to appear in Orion II:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp45.jpg
Closeup of Orion II – Daytime:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp46.jpg
Closeup of aurora – Daytime:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp47.jpg
From extended length, light output is very similar between kits. Shade illumination (closeup) with aurora on left, Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp48.jpg
Shade illumination (extended view) with aurora on left, Orion II on right:
http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/vendors/eas/lighting/aurora/avso2comp/auroracomp49.jpg
Testing is complete.
For those in the SoCal area that would like to see the comparison in person, we will be leaving the Orion II rings installed for approximately 1 week on the vehicle - then removed.
Hope all are a bit more informed before making your decision, questions/comments are welcome.
Auraraptor 07-30-2008, 02:20 PM Aurora cost for an E38? Instructions included? Do headlights need to be removed to install? Thanks!
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 02:41 PM Aurora cost for an E38? Instructions included? Do headlights need to be removed to install? Thanks!
aurora is e46-only, sorry.
Auraraptor 07-30-2008, 02:43 PM aurora is e46-only, sorry.
My heart breaks. :(
ThEnder 07-30-2008, 03:35 PM aurora is e46-only, sorry.
do you have any idea if/when a version will be available for facelift coupes?
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 04:07 PM do you have any idea if/when a version will be available for facelift coupes?
We're working on it - more info when we're closer to release.
roarf 07-30-2008, 04:42 PM Nice comparison. What is the actual color temp of both LED angel eye kits? The LED AEs seem a tad bit bluer/purpler in comparison photos w/ CCFL AEs. CCFLs are around 6500K, right?
tom @ eas 07-30-2008, 06:23 PM Nice comparison. What is the actual color temp of both LED angel eye kits? The LED AEs seem a tad bit bluer/purpler in comparison photos w/ CCFL AEs. CCFLs are around 6500K, right?
Ours are considered a 6000K, the Orions are a bit more blue.
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