View Full Version : For those with Fog Light HID's....
.......are you leaving the cutoff shield intact or are you removing it? I am thinking that there will be to much direct light if I was to take it off. I have modified it much like the cutoff shield mod. that people do to their projector low beams.
A picture of the light output with and without the cutoff shield would be a big help as well.
Also, any tips on getting to the Fog light adjustment screw so I can aim these puppies?
Cosmos96 04-07-2008, 06:56 PM I am pretty sure you have to remove it. I have h7s in my fogs and i had to remove it because the bulb would fit.
I am pretty sure you have to remove it. I have h7s in my fogs and i had to remove it because the bulb would fit.
I have tested the fit (H1 bulbs here) and it fits fine. I just am wondering if the output would be better with or w/out it.
LuvMy328is 04-07-2008, 07:14 PM Keep in mind, if you remove that shield you WILL BLIND ONCOMING TRAFFIC.
~Phil
Cosmos96 04-07-2008, 07:18 PM I have tested the fit (H1 bulbs here) and it fits fine. I just am wondering if the output would be better with or w/out it.
The light will be spread out more without the shield, it will look brighter. As for the on coming traffic, it isn't that bad, some SUV's just due to their ride hight are more blinding. I would take out the shield.
DiScoTeknix 04-07-2008, 07:31 PM Leave the shield. Retaining the OEM cutoffs while increasing light output will make you and oncoming traffic happy.;)
Also the lead will be more "spread" and less focused. So you will illuminate more random shit and less road.
The-Great-328ic 04-07-2008, 07:46 PM hmmm... so if I remove it, it will be brigher :devillook
Braymond141 04-07-2008, 07:47 PM I've removed the shields, and unlike the posts above it does NOT blind oncomming traffic.
-Fogs are aimed low to begin with and the inner shield is just there to protect the eyes from seeing the direct bulb, not a cut off.
-The light output isn't really increased nor is any glare; its a moot mod.
Why did I do it?
Because it gives better color clarity to the fog. My 6k 35watts looked purple with the shield and when removed they were a true blue. Not once did anyone complain about them.
The-Great-328ic 04-07-2008, 07:49 PM I've removed the shields, and unlike the posts above it does NOT blind oncomming traffic.
-Fogs are aimed low to begin with and the inner shield is just there to protect the eyes from seeing the direct bulb, not a cut off.
-The light output isn't really increased nor is any glare; its a moot mod.
Why did I do it?
Because it gives better color clarity to the fog. My 6k 35watts looked purple with the shield and when removed they were a true blue. Not once did anyone complain about them.
so it doesn't affect the light output at all?
banshee740 04-07-2008, 10:28 PM not really
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LuvMy328is 04-07-2008, 11:38 PM I've removed the shields, and unlike the posts above it does NOT blind oncomming traffic.
-Fogs are aimed low to begin with and the inner shield is just there to protect the eyes from seeing the direct bulb, not a cut off.
-The light output isn't really increased nor is any glare; its a moot mod.
Why did I do it?
Because it gives better color clarity to the fog. My 6k 35watts looked purple with the shield and when removed they were a true blue. Not once did anyone complain about them.
They are there for a reason, they are a fog light not a driving light. Also, 6000K for fogs? That doesn't make any sense either. You want a color closer to 3000-4000K for best visibility in foul weather. Why do you think good aftermarket fogs lights use Dichroic coatings.
Bulbs that emit a yellow color are commonly called "all weather" bulbs because the yellow/amber color makes it significantly easier for on-coming traffic to see you in bad weather, and, more importantly, the yellow or amber color does not reflect back from rain, fog or snow as much as white or blue bulbs. The color is toward the warmer end of the visible light spectrum and has a longer wavelength which does not diffract as much as cooler colors therefore causing less eye strain.
That is information from Hella.
~Phil
When I removed the lens from the housing and pulled the shield on both lights I broke one of the tabs on each shield...cheap pot metal. I think I could get them to fit back in with some JB weld. The last thing I want to do is blind oncoming traffic, but I also don't want to have the shield fall off after I seal the lens's back up.
Does anyone else feel that the addition of fog lights where an after thought to the BMW engineers? Surely they could have made it easier to remove/install the brackets as well as adjusting them. Which I still don't see how that is done with mounted.....no way can I get to that adjusting screw.
Thanks for you help guys!!
Cosmos96 04-08-2008, 11:20 AM They are there for a reason, they are a fog light not a driving light. Also, 6000K for fogs? That doesn't make any sense either. You want a color closer to 3000-4000K for best visibility in foul weather. Why do you think good aftermarket fogs lights use Dichroic coatings.
Bulbs that emit a yellow color are commonly called "all weather" bulbs because the yellow/amber color makes it significantly easier for on-coming traffic to see you in bad weather, and, more importantly, the yellow or amber color does not reflect back from rain, fog or snow as much as white or blue bulbs. The color is toward the warmer end of the visible light spectrum and has a longer wavelength which does not diffract as much as cooler colors therefore causing less eye strain.
That is information from Hella.
~Phil
I think people put hids in fogs for the look and a brighter road, I don't think they care about driving in the fog. That’s the way I think of it, I have 6k in my fogs, and not one bit do I care about losing ability to see better in the fog, considering I can count how many times I have driven in the fog on one hand. As for the rain/snow i dont drive my m in either.
APXDDM 04-08-2008, 12:03 PM Leave the shield. Retaining the OEM cutoffs while increasing light output will make you and oncoming traffic happy.;)
Also the lead will be more "spread" and less focused. So you will illuminate more random shit and less road.
ding ding ding, with that said though, i removed mine.
I regret doing it lol
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