ok by my title i dont mean im buying a cheap @$$ ebay turbo kit i mean im going to try and put together a turbo kit off of ebay parts. why you ask ??
beacuse im trying to build the car on a budget.
i plan on useing an obx (i know say it god forbid) t4 64 trim turbo. also im going to use thier wastegate, and manifold. however im going to have the manifold ceramic coated for extra insurance.
but there are a few things i need to know about
forexample what size intercooler do i need. i was thinking of useing another god ebay name for that, godspeed. there are a few intercooler kits online but i think they are either too small or to exsessive. give me a ball park.
also what size injectors ? some one said 24 pound but im not sure on that. im aiming for 12 pounds as being my peak boost that i'll ever take the car too.

The Ebay FMIC's actually aren't bad at all. ICS uses them. I'd be wary of the other parts you mentioned in your thread.

What are you going todo for ECU management???

I got my 24x12x3 IC off ebay for $76 shipped brand new, for the price you can't beat it at all

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=768062

as far as the injectors i think 24 lbs. would be on the small side. i know my TT stage 1 uses 36 lbs., and that's for 8-9 psi. beyond that read the stickied threads at the top of the FI section to get started with your research about which parts to use instead of the obx ones ;)

obx turbos aint even that cheap, u can get a used name brand one if you look.

i dont think ceramic coating a ebay manifold will do anything but waste $

42lb injectors probly worth the difference of 50-150 u spend on 24# http://www.sprayitracing.com/42lb%20Lucas%20Disk%20EV1%20High%20Impedance.htm (they can be found a little cheaper if u look)

I got my 24x12x3 IC off ebay for $76 shipped brand new, for the price you can't beat it at all

:devillook?

anyone use a Mitsubishi TD0617G? they are the ones that came on Syclones/Typhoons... rated up to 380hp.. can be converted to a 20G pretty easily.. i have one at my disposal and was thinking of making a system based off of it.

If your gonna go Ebay, dont get a stainless manifold, get a cast manifold. also, the wastegates/BOV's will work fine more often than not. With that being said, id rather get used brand name rather than new shit. But do NOT get an OBX turbo, they have been known tobreak in half. Not even kidding.

So you are going to ceramic coat the manifold so it will crack faster? :confused

only thing i would trust ebay for are: "some" intercoolers, aluminum pipe to make my own discharge piping, band clamps, and hose pieces. I wouldnt by OBX anything.. there was a thread not too long ago on another board about some ebay companies shipping turbo's that were GLUED TOGETHER!! saw pictures and everything.. it was a mess..

i have seen sum of the obx turbo's that are held together with clamps lol. the original turbo i was going to buy was a SC-3431E, i wanted to find out why obx turbos were such a bad buy... now i know.
i found a place to get them for super cheap like 650 for a rebuilt one so not a bad price also i was just thinking that if i ceramic coated the manifold that it would help decrease heat. ths shifty i was looking at the same thing myself a while back but a t60-1 seems to benifit a lil better and spools easyer, also i think the 20g's have different inlets than most t4 cant quote me or anything but i belive thats wht i have heard. also the moderator if it was read i wasent talking about buying a turbo kit off ebay simple building a turbo kit with ebay parts just to see what it could do. so moving on i have found a cast crank not to shaby i think its like 359 or so well i have seen them that cheap on ebay.

so no obx anything
42lb injector
SC-3431E turbo

what size wastegate ? what sized intercooler piping and intercooler, also does anyone make down pipes for our cars ? i saw one on ebay.de but looked very used.

:devillook?

http://photodump.org/stored20/Turbo2.JPG

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lol the turbo manifold
fastrthnu what size is yours ?

lol the turbo manifold
fastrthnu what size is yours ?



Garrett 60-1 T3 .84 exh. housing

I actually got a really good deal on it, paid $570 shipped - brand new with a v-band clamp kit. Just check around on ebay, you can find genuine Garrett turbos for really good prices. I got mine from "Siver Turbos"

i thought thats what it was not a bad deal indeed. but i am hunting all the time lol. i'll check them out
Garrett T3/TO4E 50 trim w/ .63 a/r
(http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat350trw63a.html)thats where ima try and get mine its not a bad deal 619.00 so well see how it rocks.
what size in/outlet are on your intercooler ?

i thought thats what it was not a bad deal indeed. but i am hunting all the time lol. i'll check them out
Garrett T3/TO4E 50 trim w/ .63 a/r
(http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat350trw63a.html)thats where ima try and get mine its not a bad deal 619.00 so well see how it rocks.
what size in/outlet are on your intercooler ?

3"

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=768062

I think the first line said he wasn't going to get a kit just parts?

I think the first line said he wasn't going to get a kit just parts?
+1 thanks dude
so
24x12x3 intercooler with 3'' piping
42lb injectors
SC-3431E turbo
cast manifold
what would be the best software

+1 thanks dude
so
24x12x3 intercooler with 3'' piping
42lb injectors
SC-3431E turbo
cast manifold
what would be the best software


dude. do a search... it's ok to get help but at least try to do some damn homework...:confused, hell it's even stickied at the top of the FI section. various forced induction setups. you skim through and zoom in on a setup that would best fit your needs and get to shopping.

Probably active autowerks for tuning, that or NickG. I think it's $800 or more for either.

3 in piping is such a waste. im not realy sure why anyone with less then 600whp would want anything over 2.5in.

3 in piping is such a waste. im not realy sure why anyone with less then 600whp would want anything over 2.5in.
well see thats what im sayin im just aiming for sumthin in the 400 range, an all around good street power that can be driven everyday, with comfert.
ive done sum research and sum hunting on here, i mean im no newb to forums i know how they work, its just better to see and hear other people oppinions on matters and what they found worked for them than sumthin sticked for all, you see what im gettin at.

That is a TINY turbo.

I had one of these kits on my car, it ran flawless

so how much does it cost roughly to tap the block for the oil lines???? and any other things i might need because im planning on going the same route.. but if i have to pull the motor i want to build it sort of to anyone got parts in mind so i can start saving for this.. i have some cash in hand for the turbo and maybe a little more parts..

anyone use a Mitsubishi TD0617G? they are the ones that came on Syclones/Typhoons... rated up to 380hp.. can be converted to a 20G pretty easily.. i have one at my disposal and was thinking of making a system based off of it.

Well, of course AA uses and has used the 20G setup. In other words, I don't see why not!

so how much does it cost roughly to tap the block for the oil lines????.

http://www.racersmarket.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_24&products_id=43

So you are going to ceramic coat the manifold so it will crack faster? :confused

Ceramic coating should isolate heat from the piping itself since there's also coating on the INSIDE.


That's how mines done and I havn't had any problems. :dunno (no turbo here though :D)

That is a TINY turbo.
haha so it is, it was the link to the wrong turbo anyway lol and you have exactly what i want, so what kind of set up do you have on your car ?
Garrett T3/TO4E 60 trim w/.82 a/r (http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat360trwar.html) this is the turbo i was looking at on there web site its about the same size as fastrthnuset up.

haha so it is, it was the link to the wrong turbo anyway lol and you have exactly what i want, so what kind of set up do you have on your car ?
Garrett T3/TO4E 60 trim w/.82 a/r (http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat360trwar.html) this is the turbo i was looking at on there web site its about the same size as fastrthnuset up.

FYI that is a good amount smaller then my turbo, mine will flow 61lbs

Here is another auction from the same guy I got mine from

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-genuine-Garrett-60-1-turbocharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ 002QQitemZ120239934275QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

haha so it is, it was the link to the wrong turbo anyway lol and you have exactly what i want, so what kind of set up do you have on your car ?
Garrett T3/TO4E 60 trim w/.82 a/r (http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat360trwar.html) this is the turbo i was looking at on there web site its about the same size as fastrthnuset up.


AA cast manifold, SC6176E turbo, 55# injectors, Pantera EFI standalone, .140HG, ARP studs. Plus all the little bullcrap.

My setup would cost you 4k+ to replicate in parts alone, the Pantera 882 ECU retails at about $1700.

FYI that is a good amount smaller then my turbo, mine will flow 61lbs

Here is another auction from the same guy I got mine from

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-genuine-Garrett-60-1-turbocharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ 002QQitemZ120239934275QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335818596&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FNew-genuine-Garrett-60-1-turbocharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ 002QQitemZ120239934275QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

nice thanks for the link this will help

FYI that is a good amount smaller then my turbo, mine will flow 61lbs

Here is another auction from the same guy I got mine from

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-genuine-Garrett-60-1-turbocharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ 002QQitemZ120239934275QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335818596&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FNew-genuine-Garrett-60-1-turbocharger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ 002QQitemZ120239934275QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

ball bearing?
water cooled?

it didn't say

ive try'd hunting for reviews so i'll just come out and ask, who is SPA turbo USA ? ? ? i dont think i have ever heard of them im not intrested in there turbos probaly going to use garette or PR. im just wondering who they are.

ive try'd hunting for reviews so i'll just come out and ask, who is SPA turbo USA ? ? ? i dont think i have ever heard of them im not intrested in there turbos probaly going to use garette or PR. im just wondering who they are.
id vote TCD exhaust manifold, just on WG location alone

aa stage 1 kit uses a tdo6 turbo

ive try'd hunting for reviews so i'll just come out and ask, who is SPA turbo USA ? ? ? i dont think i have ever heard of them im not intrested in there turbos probaly going to use garette or PR. im just wondering who they are.


SPA is a company in Brazil. I am fairly sure TRM uses their wastegates and turbos in their kits. If that is true, then I would not hesitate to use their equipment, Mike@TRM isn't going to use cheap crap to save some money.

ball bearing?
water cooled?

it didn't say

Journal, just oil cooled

aa stage 1 kit uses a tdo6 turbo


TD06 is an exhaust wheel. The compressor most usually mated to the TD06 exhaust wheel is a 20g (in aftermarket apps). MHI turbo designation differs ALOT from Garrett style stuff.

SPA is a company in Brazil. I am fairly sure TRM uses their wastegates and turbos in their kits. If that is true, then I would not hesitate to use their equipment, Mike@TRM isn't going to use cheap crap to save some money.
thanks for the info
i have seen that some of their turbos have garette guts.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-TURBO-KIT-320-325-328-M3-COMPLETE-STG-1-BRAND-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ33742QQihZ009QQitemZ190017578410

i have searched this and at the time people were posting about it, there was no software available, however, now they have up to stage 2 with a gt30r turbo, upgraded injectors, and such. its also stated that he turbo is only good for 5.5-6.0 psi ?? so why not just change the d@mn spring in the wastegate ??
also im trying to work a deal out.
told him that i already have the big 55lb injectors (thanks to DanR's info) and a garrett T60-1 turbo ( thanks to FastrTHNu's info)

the other kit i have found is made by SPA turbo USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220197463138&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012

it has no software at all as far as i could see, but it does look, well like the same kit above which it probaly is just this company found they could make money off of creating a software for people and giving away a better turbo.
havent gott'n an email back for the first guys but i will keep everyone posted.

Holy crap at that intake piping routing.

I am sure the turbo is small, and that is why it is only good for low boost.

Holy crap at that intake piping routing.

I am sure the turbo is small, and that is why it is only good for low boost.
I KNOW DUDE great minds think i was like wtf ???? why is it going over here then here then there? i mean even the crapy ebay kits go straight from the outlet to the intercooler.

has anyone tryed using a greddy style fuel management system for their turbo set up ?
or is that just plain stupied ?

has anyone tryed using a greddy style fuel management system for their turbo set up ?
or is that just plain stupied ?
found it
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=845743