View Full Version : water to gas ??? Bronw's gas


wokke
03-26-2008, 09:03 AM
I more or less accidentally found this on the web (http://water4gas.com/systems.htm) and wonder if this is pure BS or not. I did some research and there are plenty of sites related to this so called Brown's gas. It at least looks extremely interesting to me and I wonder if any of you guys have any experience with it already?

Cheers
Wolf

jeepman2
03-26-2008, 01:44 PM
if it were not BS, wouldn't you think that big oil would have bought him out quick and shut him down?

i call bs

wokke
03-26-2008, 01:59 PM
if it were not BS, wouldn't you think that big oil would have bought him out quick and shut him down?

i call bs

what you mention is certainly one option, but then another person would come up with the same idea.
What irritates me is that someone has obviously invented the perpetuum mobile.
They claim reduced fuel consumption by producing high energy gas from water via electrical energy which is produced by the car's engine.
To me this means they get more energy out of the process than what they put in. This is against all laws of physics.

kcksteve
03-26-2008, 02:48 PM
You can easily get hydrogen and oxygen from water I think anyone who has done Grade 10 science knows this, now looking at this "kit" you can tell it is in no way able to run stably day in and say out (notice the jar with the hole on top as the "vaporizer") on a car. But the idea is solid you would most likely need to tune your car to take gas + hydrogen as i don't think just pumping some extra explosive gas into your cylinders is a good idea running to rich and what not. It would be interesting to see a real kit for this or manufactures putting this in vehicles...

Layne
03-27-2008, 01:21 AM
Bought him out? It's just a mason jar! There is nothing unique or even interesting about this particular one, there are a dozen on e-bay at any moment, and you can make your own in 10 minutes. There's nothing to buy out.

To the original question, like most things, its partly truth and partly BS. Yes you can make hydrogen from water, yes you can burn it in your engine. Will it take more power to make than you get? Probably, but they claim not to. The thing that makes it not against the laws of physics is that the water is consumed in the process. These are not even particularly efficient unit, you could be using platinum electrodes etc, and get much more output for input. Imagine though how hard it would be to get your ECU to know when this unit is on and know how much to lean the gasoline to compensate for it. You wouldn't have a chance without a programmable system, and it probably won't work well even then.

Ol'6erGuy
03-27-2008, 07:37 PM
What was it that P.T. Barnum once said???

kbert777
03-27-2008, 09:02 PM
Somehow I am not a huge fan of these hydrogen experiments, I have seen the damage just the little amount of hydrogen gassing out of a lead acid battery can do when ignition is present.

The agency my wife works for has a hydrogen refueling station for their fleet vehicles and all I can tell you is that this is not ready for prime time yet.

By reading Wolf's link I had the impression that the amount of hydrogen created by the set-up is really marginal and without any major impact on engine performance and fuel economy, the quality of the supplied components scares the living daylight out of me...

Klaus