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stang65
03-21-2008, 02:02 AM
well I dont normaly post it this section but I thought that some one might be able to help me with some questions on my 01 325i

first off my car has H&R racing springs, the sport suspension sway bars, heavy duty front control arm bushings, uuc transmission braces and bushing. the RTAB are stock as well as the the engine and sway bar bushings. I have 225/35/zr19 toyo proxy4 on the front of the car and 265/30/zr19 toyo proxy4 on the rear. camber adjust ments are set to -1.5 front and -2 rear. I recently installed a front lip and a acs rear window spoiler.

now I havent pushed the car to hard recently but today went for a spirited drive. (I know I should go to the track I just felt the need) any way on my turn in's on sweeping corners (35 to 45 posted corners) has changed the car dives in great and holds but if I go deeper in the corner it likes to dart down in. I have noticed also on the more agresive banked corners it dives in to. the car doesnt feel like it wants to come around at all. the steering is alot more snapy to want to turn in.


I dont know if I should be worried that somethings wrong with the car. wish I could better describe what is going on.

tspool
03-21-2008, 03:21 AM
Do you mean it's pushing/understeering? If yes, than 225/265 setup is the main reason for that. You need a more square tire setup.

stang65
03-21-2008, 04:16 AM
not so much understeer. the car holds the turns no problem but in the corner if I turn harder it oversteers kinda. its like the grip has increased but I havent done anything to the car.
I need to learn more track language

MCain
03-21-2008, 10:23 AM
Do you know what your front and rear toe settings are? Just as an aside, you probably don't want that much rear camber if your tires will clear without it.

tspool
03-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Do you know what your front and rear toe settings are? Just as an aside, you probably don't want that much rear camber if your tires will clear without it.
I though 2 deg. rear camber was a factory setting?

not so much understeer. the car holds the turns no problem but in the corner if I turn harder it oversteers kinda. its like the grip has increased but I havent done anything to the car.
I need to learn more track language

How many miles on it? Sounds like your RTABs need to be replaced with some urethane or just stock bushing with toe spacers.

stang65
03-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Do you know what your front and rear toe settings are? Just as an aside, you probably don't want that much rear camber if your tires will clear without it.
the toe is still at factory spec unless something happend to the front end sense the last alighnment. rear camber is pretty much set there I dont have alot of room to play with.
I though 2 deg. rear camber was a factory setting?



How many miles on it? Sounds like your RTABs need to be replaced with some urethane or just stock bushing with toe spacers.
RTABS I'll try fixing those with some urethane ones and the car only has 85,000 miles on it

thanks for the help guys

tspool
03-21-2008, 04:17 PM
RTABS I'll try fixing those with some urethane ones and the car only has 85,000 miles on it

thanks for the help guys

If your RTABs haven't been replaced in 85k, than replacing them should solve your issue. Good luck!

stang65
03-21-2008, 04:21 PM
I think Im going to also change the engine mounts also along with some headers. I dont think I need swaybars right away the sport ones seem to do alright

chebimmer
03-21-2008, 04:37 PM
To really help you, I think we need a better description of what is going on, it is hard to tell from your post and none of us have driven the car. But based on your setup, this is what I think most people would tell you to do to improve handling:

Ditch the staggered rims and tires. While you might really like how they look, staggered 19 inch rims are not what I would have on my car for optimal handling.

Secondly, get rid of the HR race springs. They are too short for the relatively low rate that they are. Go get some HR sports perhaps. Combine that with camber plates (Vorshlag sells a great set for a good price) to get more neg. camber up front. As long as you don't run a lot of toe out in front, your tires will not wear too bad.

And like others mentioned, replace the RTABs with OE ones and add some RTAB limiters.

Don't mean to be harsh, that is just where I would start. Hope that helps:)