I'd be happy and would buy the 135i at $35k to 40k. Irvine BMW has one in there and they wany almost $45k for it. Too much for this car... It should be priced around $35k for what you get. There are too many good cars around the $35k range to buy this for $45k. I've changed my mind about buying one if that's what they want. I went in to order one, but now I'll spend my funds elsewhere...

Not this again:eyecrazy

If there is a mark up then blame the dealer. The entry price for the car is much lower than the paticular car you saw. If you want a loaded BMW then fork over the dough. It's been that way for a long time.

Not this again:eyecrazy

If there is a mark up then blame the dealer. The entry price for the car is much lower than the paticular car you saw. If you want a loaded BMW then fork over the dough. It's been that way for a long time.


I don't have a problem with spending money for the right car, but I was under the impression that this was a entry level car aimed at younger buyers. That car should be in the $35k range. I have three sons who make good money and I'd think they were foolish to pay that much ($40k-$45K) for this car. I'm thinking of taking the bigger plunge and ordering a new M3. If you're going to spend money, at least get something for it...

I assume the one you saw was fully loaded?

I assume the one you saw was fully loaded?

It had most options, but don't you think $40k-$45k is too much for the 135i?

Why are you blaming the dealership?

If anything, blame BMW. The 135i's entry MSRP is $35k with no options.

I'm assuming the one you saw probably had at least a few options which could easily put it in the 40-45k range. If there's a markup above MSRP, it doesn't sound like it was a huge amount. And the car is in short supply right now, meaning no discounts. Some dealers may choose to mark up above MSRP, which is certainly their perogative if the vehicle can command the price. Long story short, for the best deal, you may have to put in an order and wait for it, just like most everyone else.

I think the car is marketed towards the 30 something crowd with a fairly good income and desire for a classy sports coupe. It is a bit more $ than it's competitors but the free maintenence plan may make up the diff.

M3 is a great car. Throw $4K at a 135 and you will have similar performance to the M3 for a ton less.

I agree .. with location shipping, ect, it's really a 36K base for the 135i. We all know how quickly those options add up. Whether you like it or not, you probably won't be finding any 135i's below 40K with no options, just due to markup.

That means I would not be surprised if we saw some loaded 135i's marked up to almost the 50K line.

Just wait it out, the first generation is never the best, and when the demand is lower you can get more for your dollar instead of paying for markup.

I agree .. with location shipping, ect, it's really a 36K base for the 135i. We all know how quickly those options add up. Whether you like it or not, you probably won't be finding any 135i's below 40K with no options, just due to markup.

That means I would not be surprised if we saw some loaded 135i's marked up to almost the 50K line.

Just wait it out, the first generation is never the best, and when the demand is lower you can get more for your dollar instead of paying for markup.

I absolutely agree that waiting is always better. I wasn't blaming Irvine BMW for the price, it just happen to be where I saw the car. It's a nice little car, but after seeing and sitting in it, I feel that there are better choices out there for the money. BMW had a great opportunity to draw a large market of young people with a more affordable car. I just believe that they've pulled too many young people out of this market with the base price. For a young person making 60-80k a year, 40-50k is asking alot of them. I was really looking forward to the car, but I'm just a little dissapointed at the costs. BMW would have done themselves well by setting the base lower. Then for those who what a street racer, add for the options accordingly.

I would of bought a 135 if it was 36k decently loaded,45k is not woth it.40+k with no real LSD,BMW have there whole heritage messed up with this car.

[QUOTE=skratch;12445062]I would of bought a 135 if it was 36k decently loaded.QUOTE]

Ditto

id take it for 35k with no potion before shelling out 10k more k for a 1 series alot they are sweet!

Mine should end up about $37k out the door including $4000 in options as well as delivery/tax/licensing fees. I'm buying through the Euro Delivery program though, which includes a 7% discount below the standard MSRP. We were planning a vacation to Germany/Europe this summer anyways, so I'm not factoring trip costs in with the price of the car.

I guess I got the best of both worlds. :D

I'd be happy and would buy the 135i at $35k to 40k. Irvine BMW has one in there and they wany almost $45k for it. Too much for this car... It should be priced around $35k for what you get. There are too many good cars around the $35k range to buy this for $45k. I've changed my mind about buying one if that's what they want. I went in to order one, but now I'll spend my funds elsewhere...

You sure it wasn't marked up? Go to Crevier, they don't mark up cars and aren't giant A-holes like Irvine.

Secondly, what else can you get for $37k that's as nice and fast as a 135i? It's basically a shortened 335i. Skip out on the 'cheese' options (comfort access, premium package, etc...) and it'll be about $37k, and nothing can touch it for that money. TT, 330hp factory or easily 400hp with a chip, six-piston Brembos..... for $37k? Sounds pretty good to me :)

Mine should end up about $37k out the door including $4000 in options as well as delivery/tax/licensing fees. I'm buying through the Euro Delivery program though, which includes a 7% discount below the standard MSRP. We were planning a vacation to Germany/Europe this summer anyways, so I'm not factoring trip costs in with the price of the car.

I guess I got the best of both worlds. :D


That price sounds much better. If I get one, I'll do the ED also. My wife wants to see Germany and it sounds like a good deal. If I do order one, I want it basic, white with black, no frills, except for any and all speed options of course... :evil2

Dude, the price has been out for months. We've seen all the rant's about the base price. Before you bitch anymore, consider how the dollar is tanking against the Euro. BMW is only bringing 10k cars instead of the 30k originally planned due to the weak dollar.

And I just don't see how getting a 335i for $5k less is not a good deal, considering it comes with an M body kit, 6 pot brakes and sport suspension standard. And like someone said, JB2, downpipes and you get 400HP, all for around $1000.

I would take an evo MR anyday over a 135 and save myself 10k doing it.

okay, you know what, here's the reality. The 1 series are new cars right now, which is the reason for them being over priced. They are the bottom line of the bmw series. Yes, in an enthusiasts view they aren't because they are fast and can handle. But in the view of the average consumer, they are the entry level BMW. Because of this "ENTRY LEVEL BMW" attitude, and as the car ages a bit, the prices will go down.

People keep thinking of the 1-series as an econo-entry level car. It's not. It's just taking the place the 3-series left when it got so bloated.

I would take an evo MR anyday over a 135 and save myself 10k doing it.

Base price for an '08 Evo is 33.6K.

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/build.do?loc=en-us

That price sounds much better. If I get one, I'll do the ED also. My wife wants to see Germany and it sounds like a good deal. If I do order one, I want it basic, white with black, no frills, except for any and all speed options of course... :evil2

Good call - mine is pretty basic as well. My only "extra' options are the metallic paint, sport package, comfort access, HD radio, and iPod/USB adapter. Everything else is unnecessary for a drivers' car like this IMO. Can't wait! :redspot

1 series head lights makes it look like its been drinking coffee for 72 hours straight with no sleep...

People keep thinking of the 1-series as an econo-entry level car. It's not. It's just taking the place the 3-series left when it got so bloated.
AKA entry level car.

I don't have a problem with spending money for the right car, but I was under the impression that this was a entry level car aimed at younger buyers. That car should be in the $35k range. I have three sons who make good money and I'd think they were foolish to pay that much ($40k-$45K) for this car. I'm thinking of taking the bigger plunge and ordering a new M3. If you're going to spend money, at least get something for it...


adopt me?

You sure it wasn't marked up? Go to Crevier, they don't mark up cars and aren't giant A-holes like Irvine.

Secondly, what else can you get for $37k that's as nice and fast as a 135i? It's basically a shortened 335i. Skip out on the 'cheese' options (comfort access, premium package, etc...) and it'll be about $37k, and nothing can touch it for that money. TT, 330hp factory or easily 400hp with a chip, six-piston Brembos..... for $37k? Sounds pretty good to me :)

I was just at Crevier and they have mark ups on a lot of their cars also. They had a $10k mark up on the M3's. I did talk to one of the sales persons and said you can save money by ordering from them and waiting the 8 weeks. I think I'll try that route. I want the performance of the car without all the extra bells and whistles. Much more cost effective!

I just went and looked at a 135i at Irvine BMW. They have a 2500 markup on it. (Bastards....hope no one pays that)

It's pretty tight inside. I think it actually has a little less combined front and rear leg room than my M3. In my M3, I can sit a little away from the dashboard in the front seat and still fit in the back seat. In the 135i, I had to put my knees into the dashboard to fit in the back seat. The 135i does have more width inside, though.

If all the dealers are going to add 5-10% markup on the 135i, spending 1200-1500 on new suspension bits doesn't sound so expensive anymore...(and ZKWs, and a front lip, maybe some FI....)

DBinMV

I just went and looked at a 135i at Irvine BMW. They have a 2500 markup on it. (Bastards....hope no one pays that)

If all the dealers are going to add 5-10% markup on the 135i, spending 1200-1500 on new suspension bits doesn't sound so expensive anymore...(and ZKWs, and a front lip, maybe some FI....)

DBinMV


You think that's bad... They've added $10k to the new M3! :mad

Compared to the 30K markup at Century West BMW, that's a bargain!

:LOL

DBinMV

which is why i dont ever buy anything off the show room floor.. mark ups, plus you loose money instantly driving off said show room floor. I like buying 3+ yr old cars...

plus.. 1st yr of every car is going to have quirks.. the 2nd and 3rd yr of the car is much better.. since the manufac. have added or updated/upgraded things, or changed or fixed bugged problems.

I was just at Crevier and they have mark ups on a lot of their cars also. They had a $10k mark up on the M3's. I did talk to one of the sales persons and said you can save money by ordering from them and waiting the 8 weeks. I think I'll try that route. I want the performance of the car without all the extra bells and whistles. Much more cost effective!

Really, my bad. They didn't mark up cars in the past, it used to be only Irvine. Kinda sad to hear that, but oh well.

You think that's bad... They've added $10k to the new M3! :mad

Yea, I stopped by Irvine today to see the 135i. I have to say, that E90 M3 is quite nice inside :evil2 I was kinda shocked at the markup though. Give it a few months...

I made the simple mistake of just sitting in the new M3 last week.

I won't drive it until I can back to back it with the 135...then I'll decide if the extra 20k is worth it.

ummmm wait a few months when people aren't going to pay 10k over sticker like idiots....

AKA entry level car.

:nono AKA entry level BMW

an $11,000 Hyundai/Kia/Suzuki is an entry level car.

Complaining about a markup is valid, complaining about sticker price not so much. What WE think it's worth is pointless, if it's too much $$$ get a loaded Civic SI or something, if no one buys them at $35k they'll lower the price or discontinue them. We aren't all entitled to own BMW's just because we like them.

And what is this long list of rear wheel drive, 2 door, 300 HP/TQ cars for $36k? The Mustang GT, infiniti G37/370Z and, uummm oh yeah NOTHING else :evil2

I made the simple mistake of just sitting in the new M3 last week.

I won't drive it until I can back to back it with the 135...then I'll decide if the extra 20k is worth it.

You really need to back to back it against the M3 with about $4,500 in mods: JB2, catless downpipe, exhaust, cheap intake and some lightweight wheels.

The 135i is loaded for $34,900 plus dest $775. It has everthing it needs already. If you want the sport pkg and leather add $2450. Thats all you need, unless you are on the phone all the time and can't read a map or get lost all the time. Its NOT a Lexus LS 460. Its A SPORT CAR.

sorry to hear about the west coast dealers. Out here in New England the car is going at MSRP currently.

And I know this is beating the proverbial horse but the 135i is NOT entry level for BMW. the 128i is.

Look around at some new england dealers, www.bmwofstratham.com (http://www.bmwofstratham.com), www.herbchambers.com (http://www.herbchambers.com), www.bmwofpeabody.com (http://www.bmwofpeabody.com) and you'll note that you can get a 128i for $29,XXX. That is 230 hp 200tq and BMW maintenance, engineering, etc etc.

The last new BMW I got for under $30k was my '03 325i 5 speed, leatherette, etc.

I think the base $35,400 (incl $775 dest.) for a 135i is a smoking deal when you look at what you get for the $$. It IS a 335i. Slightly smaller, bigger brakes and a couple other "sportier" differences. 300hp/300tq for $35,400 is a steal. Couple that with the BMW lease offer out there.

$3800 down, $329/mo, 10,000miles, 2 years for a base 135i.

I've added sport package (just for the sport seats), cold weather (i live in NH and i wanted heated seats and ski bag), and leather (I'm spoiled) and the car comes in under $39k. That ups the lease to $400ish a month. I'm going to do euro delivery which drops i back to $360/mo.

I don't know about anyone else but that is a hell of a car for that lease price. Residual is 71 on the car so I plan on buying it out at the end of the lease.

And don't forget - our dollar is sinking sinking sinking. All things considered whether you are talking 128i or 135i I don't think you can go wrong.

I don't know about anyone else but that is a hell of a car for that lease price. Residual is 71 on the car so I plan on buying it out at the end of the lease.



Why lease at all then? Im confused, wont you just be paying them more money this way? Why not just buy it?

Atlanta was MSRP as well... couple of pics from Global Imports (test drove the black 135i on Tuesday, 18 March)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/Ratsback/BMW1Series002.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/Ratsback/BMW1Series006.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/Ratsback/BMW1Series005.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/Ratsback/BMW1Series011.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/Ratsback/BMW1Series012.jpg

They had a bunch on the lot... at least 3 Sedona Red 135i coupes, 1 SGM 135i, a Titanium Silver 135i, a Black 135i (test drove this... only downside was the automagic), 2 White 128i convertibles, 1 Sedona Red 128i, and a Back 128i.

The 135i IS NOT OVERPRICED.

Lets see what you get fpr $34,900 plus dest equals $35,675.

3.0 liter bi-turbo 300hp 300tq 1400-5000 rpm's
6 speed manual
Dynamic stability control, dynamic traction control, start-off assistance.
Extensive aluminum componentry including forged lower arms.
Five link fully independant rear suspension
Front and rear stabilizers.
Twin tube gas shocks.
Sport suspension.
4-wheel ventilated anti-lock disc brakes with dynamic brake control.
Lightweight cast alloy wheels, 18"x7.5" front, 18"x8.5" rear.
215/40/18" front, 245/35/18" rear Potenza RE050A runflat max summer tires.
Xenon adaptive headlights with auto-leveling, and cornering lights.
Retractable, high intensity headlight washers.
Heated dual power mirrors and heated winshield washer jets.
Chrome exhaust tips.
Integrated rear lip spoiler.
Aerodynamic body kit.
8-way adjustable front seats with 2-way headrests.
3-spoke leather wrapped multi-function sport steering wheel/audio/phone controls.
Split fold-down rear seats.
Engine start/stop button.
2-way power glass moonroof with 1-touch operation, sliding sunshade/wind deflector.
Automatic climate control, micro-filter, auto air-recirculation, left/right temp control.
Rear seat fold down armrest and storage bin.
Power front windows with 1-touch up/down operation.
Tilt/telescopic steering wheel column.
Dynamic cruise control.
Locking glovebox.
Rain-sensing windshield wipers and automatic headlight control.
Pre-wired for mobile phone and alarm system.
Anti-theft AM/FM stereo, CD/MP3 player audio system with 10 speakers, radio data system, auto-store and 3 channel FM diversity antenna.
Aux. input for portable music players located in the armrest.
Pre-wired for 6-disc CD changer and satellite radio.
Tire pressure monitoring system.
On-board computor with detailed information, fuel info, mileage, etc.
Anti-lock brakes ABS.
Adaptive brake lights.

TOO much more to list.

If leather is your bag, add $1450.
Sport package with sport seats, M steering wheel/shifter, black exterior trim. add $1,000.

WOW all that for an MSRP of $38,125 with destination.

What do you get, well an awesome looking/handling car with everything needed to haul ass in a straight line or around a corner.

Anybody who complains that it costs TOO much, GO AWAY, SHUT-UP.

SORRY, but I am sick of the overpriced crap.

Dude, the price has been out for months. We've seen all the rant's about the base price. Before you bitch anymore, consider how the dollar is tanking against the Euro. BMW is only bringing 10k cars instead of the 30k originally planned due to the weak dollar.

And I just don't see how getting a 335i for $5k less is not a good deal, considering it comes with an M body kit, 6 pot brakes and sport suspension standard. And like someone said, JB2, downpipes and you get 400HP, all for around $1000.


And the dollar is getting weaker by the day.

you guys know why bmw didnt bring the evo M3 here?Because they didnt think it would sell for the 10k mark up it needed for what it was selling over seas.

This car is NOT going to sell well,the country is about to hit a huge recession and people will not pay 700/month for this car,its not worth it.I could drive a 996tt for less.

At the very leaset they should of gave it a real LSD.

I just went to my dealer and they had 4 thats right 4 brand new M3s for sale...no one is buying cars right now.Back when the e46 came out there were huge mark ups and you couldnt get the car for a year after you ordered it.