View Full Version : Drove a 335i; my impressions as an E46 M3 owner


ohnoes
03-08-2008, 06:27 PM
Just test-drove, albeit not for very long, a Space Gray 335i coupe with saddle brown interior, pretty much loaded to the hilt. Sports package, premium package, cold weather package, iDrive, etc. etc. Strangely, it didn't have Comfort Access. Sticker price was a pretty penny: $49,700 or so.

Before I started her up, I played around for a few minutes with iDrive and some of the other various buttons and doo-dads in this computer geek's heaven of a cockpit. And I have to say, it's not NEARLY as much of an egregious failure as the press and laymen make it out to be! I don't know what grievances people have with it, as it's actually pretty straightforward. "Intuitive" may be a bit of a stretch, but it isn't terrible, by any means. It took me literally no time at all to figure it out, and I'd really never used it before (I did on an E65/E66, but that was five years ago at an auto show and not for very long... I digress).

It paired up instantly with my BlackBerry 7250. Didn't seem to want to work with my Treo 650, but the latter is getting up there in age and occasionally acts somewhat quirky... maybe something I forgot to do on the Treo. Didn't check for my address book, but I presume it was all there. Didn't make any calls, either, but again I presume it works. There was just too much else to distract me and take in there that playing with every little piece of technology could compel my undivided attention for days on end! :eek:

Then we were off, the salesman and me. Cool guy, has an E70 X5 4.8i. Told me about his experiences at the ride-and-drives that BMW salespeople attend down in Spartansburg to get "acquainted" (to put it lightly :devillook) with their cars and those of the competition (latter is a great idea!). Very cool stuff.

My first impression was smoothness. Compared to the comparatively visceral and peaky nature of the S54 that powers my E46 M3, this thing just offers power, torque, and smoothness in spades throughout the rev band--it truly is the gift that keeps on giving!

My M3 definitely pulls a lot harder on the top end, harder in the mid-range, and about the same down low, but there are a few reasons for this: a) it is a naturally-aspirated, strung-out N/A Motorsport engine with lots of high-end power, where the N54 is a twin-turbo powerplant with gobs of torque, b) my car is not stock, c) I did not really romp on the 335i much because the motor was cold.

One thing I was a little bit disturbed by was how careless the salesman was in driving the car. It had obviously not been driven at least overnight, and it was all the way at the cold (160 degrees) mark, yet he nearly redlined it every shift just to demonstrate, when we left the parking lot. Is this normal practice for salespeople? I'm worried it is. Someone needs to educate and monitor them insofar as they learn not to do this, as it is clearly bad for the motor. I'd hate to know that my new BMW were being abused like this during delivery...

The sound of the engine is pure I6 goodness. It has a very subtle but audible growl that really inspires one to keep on pushing it. It's an easy sound to fall in love with! And it's certainly one that sounds better stock than the S54, at least until you hit the world-class symphony in the latter that is 6,500 RPMs+.

Clutch and transmission action were great, probably better than any other BMW I've driven. The salesman told me the shifter gates were weighted so that hunting for the next gear is no longer an issue. Is this true? It definitely snicks into gear much more easily than my M3 which sometimes protests up or downshifts.

Can't remember if this car had Active Steering or not, but one thing I noticed about this component of the car was that the steering felt noticeably heavier than my M3. Not really ponderous or lazy, but certainly heavier and different. I really like the sport steering wheel.

Handling was incredible as usual for a BMW 3-Series, though much to my disappointment, the salesman had to get back to apparently sell a loaded 550i before I could really hunt down and spiritedly tackle some serious twisties. I did get a decent feel for it, but I'd like more seat time if I were going to make a firm appraisal of its abilities stock for stock versus the M3. It certainly bugs me at surface level that it doesn't come with an LSD, but no non-M since 1994 has.

It definitely feels more solid and composed, as well as generally smoother, than the E46 chassis at speed and in turns; it's obviously a superior suspension design. I think it does, though, lose some of the road feel that the former offers--but this is to be expected, as it has occurred in each successive generation following the E30. It also feels heavier, but it's not a pig.

Miscellaneous observations included that the Logic7 audio system sounds very, very nice; the seatbelt extenders seem flimsy, unnecessary, and inevitably destined for breakage at some point; seats are very, very comfortable and supportive; glovebox is TINY, as I've read elsewhere--not even big enough to fit the owner's manual :rolleyes; interior layout, design, and quality is head and shoulders above previous 3-Series, and I love the extended center console for rear passengers; dash is less "driver-oriented" than its predecessors.

Overall, I love the car. But is it a worthy and suitable replacement for my M3? I'm still trying to decide. I haven't fallen head over heels for it, but maybe that's to be expected coming from an M3.

I'd really to have both of them. :evil2

brokenbimmer
03-08-2008, 07:33 PM
IMO comfort access should be standard on the 335i. Or at least included with the premium package.

As far as which car to own, the need for a warranty might be a factor. If I could afford another "fun" car, it would be a Vette, not an old M3.

SG333E
03-09-2008, 12:05 PM
However your statement about torque all throughout the band and E46M3 pulling harder are a bit at odds. Stock for stock the 335 pulls much harder up until 6500 at least.

I was torn between the two, went 335 for 4 doors and bluetooth as much as anything. I went 6 speed but would have gone SMG for the M3, mainly to cover for the lack of torque.

Alex330ci
04-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Dinan has a software upgrade for this engine that will blow away an E46 M3.

It's $2K.

Active Autowerks has a larger intercooler for it.

Jhunter
04-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Great write-up. I agree with just about everything you point out. My experience is the opposite of yours, own a 335 coupe but have only driven an E46 M3 once for a short period of time.

Although you did not like the seat belt extender arms, women seem to be impressed by them. :)

x986
04-21-2008, 09:39 PM
I really like the sport steering wheel.
:evil2

Say what!? It's a piece of crap in comparison to the M3wheel. The three best things about my M3 were engine, seats, and steering wheel.
My E92's engine felt good with 300hp, and feels really good with Dinan's 384hp & 421 ft.# of torque, but it still doesn't wind out like the M3. The sport/premium seats are the same, but without the great napa leather. I "had" to replace the sport wheel with an M-Sport because I have paddles. It has the same size and shape as the M3 wheel, but the leather is not the same.
Am I happy with my replacement for the M3? You betcha!

brentxzi
04-21-2008, 10:40 PM
In my experience the 335 kicks ass. It has power straight out of the hole and the faster you go the smoother it gets. I was an m3 love and still am but the 335 is faster then the m3 and has way more torque.

BillSD
04-23-2008, 12:08 AM
I am an ex-E46 M3 owner also. I'd say your impresssions are right on, even given the short test drive. I'm with you...it would be cool to own both :)

As far as tuning the 335. You can give it more HP than the M3, but you can't make it an ///M.

tomegun
04-23-2008, 09:09 PM
I have to disagree about the shifter. That is probably the only thing I really don't like about my 335. The throws are long and they don't feel as good as (gasp) Honda. Just my opinion, but I love my car anyway.