With the introduction of another build possibility, I have decided to post a feeler thread for my 1997 BMW M3! Let me be the first to say, this has not been an easy decision and have no issues with keeping the vehicle until I am old and gray, however for the correct price, anything is/can be for sale! Hellrot Red with Modena interior starts this discription, 51,000 original miles, no accidents, Luxury Package 1997 BMW M3. All original equipment is completely functional, from the heated seats right down to the air conditioning, the vehicle maintains all OEM functions! Vehicle has been and still is dealer maintained by Orange County BMW in the Hudson Valley of New York State! All scheduled services have been completed and many more. Every fluid has been serviced with Mobil 1 synthetic more times then recommended during it's two year ownership. Vehicle has passed all New York State Inspection requirements. Build start date began on 02/10/2007 with a Stage 1 turbocharger kit and was recently upgraded by ICS Performance to a Stage 2 setup. The build parts are as follows:

TURBO PARTS LIST:
M50 Intake Manifold
Garrett GT3582R Turbocharger
31x12x3 Intercooler
3" Charge Pipe
3" Cold Pipe
3" Air Inlet Pipe
Greddy By Pass Valve
Spa Exhaust Manifold
3" Down Pipe
3" Exhaust with 2 Magnaflow Mufflers
Tial 38mm Wastegate
.140 Vac Motorsports Head Gasket
ARP 10mm Headstuds
Toyota Twin Turbo Supra Fuel Pump
42lbs. Precision Injectors:
Produced by Lucas, part# 01D030B
3.5" Porsche 993 HFM, Bosch part# 0 280 217 803
Turbosmart E-Boost2 Electronic Boost Controller
AEM Uego Air Fuel Ratio Wideband
Apexi Turbo Timer
Nick G. Software/Tune

All of the piping was custom fabricated by ICS Performance. Proper fittings, piping, hoses were used to insure quality fit, reliability and performance! A new motormount was installed so the air inlet pipe would have plenty of clearance. The entire exhaust system is 3" size with V-band connections from the downpipe to the tailpipes. The wastegate is properly routed back into the exhaust for the most quiet, OEM sound imaginable! All of the charge piping and intercooler piping was coated silver for a simple look. The vehicle puts down fantastic numbers, of course with the Nick G. software. Brakes have been upgraded to a Wilwood Four Wheel Big Brake Kit. Wilwood four piston calipers have been installed all around, larger slotted rotors, stainless steel brake lines, and Hawk performance brake pads control the 440 RWHP and 441 RWTQ. A UUC M5 clutch with 8.5lbs. flywheel was also installed to help maintain power levels. Vehicle is in a condition that can not be understood through pictures, amazing attempts to suffice! Never winter driven or in any weather besides sunshine! Stored inside a heated garage during winter months! Here are pictures:
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$23,995 is the asking price! PM me for any further questions!

More pictures for those who have requested:
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And more:
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wow. Car looks great. Price is much lower than i would of expected.G/L with the sale

wow. Car looks great. Price is much lower than i would of expected.G/L with the sale
Thank you, believe me it's worth more and would love to ask for more, however as a seller you have to be realistic in an asking price! I believe the asking price is fair and am more then willing to talk to any interested buyer!

When Scratch off tickets finally pay out for me I'll hit ya up!

Free Bump any way amazing car and is ICS the same shop that did 'Killer Bee'?

When Scratch off tickets finally pay out for me I'll hit ya up!

Free Bump any way amazing car and is ICS the same shop that did 'Killer Bee'?

yes along with many other featured monsters

Wow, much lower price than I anticipated! Car looks great, good luck!

hmm...that doesnt seem like hellrot red, is that mugello red?

When Scratch off tickets finally pay out for me I'll hit ya up!

Free Bump any way amazing car and is ICS the same shop that did 'Killer Bee'?Thank you for the compliments and yes, ICS is the owner and mastermind of the Bumble Bee!

yes along with many other featured monstersAgreed, so many monster have been built there, best BMW shop hands down!

Wow, much lower price than I anticipated! Car looks great, good luck!Thank you!

hmm...that doesnt seem like hellrot red, is that mugello red? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Hellrot Red :D:D!

All PM's answered! Thank you for everyone's interest in the vehicle as well!

Wow, Good Luck with the sale, if my car is wrecked in the next couple of days. I am buying yours!!!

Wow, Good Luck with the sale, if my car is wrecked in the next couple of days. I am buying yours!!!
Well please be safe and PM me at the same time :D!

Wow this is a VERY clean example of an M3. Beautiful car, I would have asked more!

Good luck with the sale!

Sexy car. Is 440 rwhp running at max psi? Cause I thought with a gt35r, you'd be pushing atleast 500 rwhp.

Good luck with the sale!

Beautiful car. I too am surprised on the price.
Sexy car. Is 440 rwhp running at max psi? Cause I thought with a gt35r, you'd be pushing atleast 500 rwhp.
A T3 GT35R can push in excess of 550whp. He is running it at an acceptable max boost for his stock bottom end.

Wow this is a VERY clean example of an M3. Beautiful car, I would have asked more!

Good luck with the sale!
Thank you for the kind words! Your M3 isn't too shabby itself :D!

Sexy car. Is 440 rwhp running at max psi? Cause I thought with a gt35r, you'd be pushing atleast 500 rwhp.

Good luck with the sale!
A GT3582R can handle much more then 15PSI, which achieved the 440RWHP mark. Nick G.'s tuning is the best, period! An S52 with headgasket alone, no methanol injection, should not be ran with more then a bar of boost! This is to insure durability/longevity out of the headgasket and avoid future problems. The vehicle is driven with 12 PSI, this achieved the 420RWHP mark!

Beautiful car. I too am surprised on the price.

A T3 GT35R can push in excess of 550whp. He is running it at an acceptable max boost for his stock bottom end.
Thank you for the compliments! I will have to disagree though, the stock bottom end can handle much more boost then 15PSI. With methanol injection and headgasket applications, 500 RWHP can be achieved on the stock bottom end without any issues. My vehicle is running no where near it's max boost potential!

Thank you for the compliments! I will have to disagree though, the stock bottom end can handle much more boost then 15PSI. With methanol injection and headgasket applications, 500 RWHP can be achieved on the stock bottom end without any issues. My vehicle is running no where near it's max boost potential!
I meant streetable/reliable. The only S52 I know of breaking the 500whp mark on the stock rods while having some reliability (not bending a rod within 1k miles or less) is George's MCoupe.

Mike R. ran his for awhile (though Im not sure at what boost level) before bending a rod at 604whp with C16 and Alky Injection.

Bottom Line: Yes, this car can boost to a "forum accepted" 17psi before you risk bending the rods at higher boost levels (18+ psi). So, yes if you can make 500whp on 17psi..the motor will take it (based upon your numbers you should be making 500whp @ 17psi)

Beautiful car, good luck with the sale.

Have you done any suspension work? For such a powerful car, it looks like it sits a little high.

I seriously wish I had another ten grand, I would pick this up in an instant. Good luck with the sale mate!

The only S52 I know of breaking the 500whp mark on the stock rods while having some reliability (not bending a rod within 1k miles or less) is George's MCoupe.
From what I understand and know, George's M-Coupe is on all stock internals, OEM original parts! No internal engine parts have been swapped nor changed during it's ownership by ICS Performance! Those numbers are on a headgasket, that is all! I'm not sure if you were stating this or that the vehicles internals were changed at some point!

Beautiful car, good luck with the sale.
Thank you sir, very nice E39 M5!
Have you done any suspension work? For such a powerful car, it looks like it sits a little high.
OEM suspension, handles and performs flawlessly, even at this power level!

I seriously wish I had another ten grand, I would pick this up in an instant. Good luck with the sale mate!
Thank you for the comments!

Do you live around Washingtonville? I think I may have seen this around.

When do you get full spool?

Do you live around Washingtonville? I think I may have seen this around.
Yes sir, you most likely have seen it!

When do you get full spool?
2000-2500 RPM or so!

My buddy just bought a Toyota for about $27...yeah it's new, but this car over a Toyota? No brainer!

Money really is in the eye of the beholder. IMO...worth spending more for high quality from a strong seller. Cars like this make me smile!

When man puts his head together,
lets go of his ego,
he can accomplish great things...this is one of them.

Hot car, great mods, AMAZING PRICE.

My buddy just bought a Toyota for about $27...yeah it's new, but this car over a Toyota? No brainer!

Money really is in the eye of the beholder. IMO...worth spending more for high quality from a strong seller. Cars like this make me smile!

When man puts his head together,
lets go of his ego,
he can accomplish great things...this is one of them.
Thank you, very well said! I agree, there are used vehicles out there that are much more desired then new vehicles!

Hot car, great mods, AMAZING PRICE.
Thank you, I agree as well, it is a very reasonable price!

Yea I think my buddy Anthony (Lunch) knows ya he lives in Newcastle, used to have a blue five point slow. By the way that thing is gorgeous.

By the way that thing is gorgeous.
Thank you!

All PM's answered! Thanks to those who are interested!

Yes sir, you most likely have seen it!


2000-2500 RPM or so!

I've been in the very first GT35R powered E36 that ICS produced. It was called "The Black Monster" or "Nick the Greek's" car. That vehicle ran the same exact turbo as yours, and it did not reach full boost or "spool" below 3200 rpm.

I've been in the very first GT35R powered E36 that ICS produced. It was called "The Black Monster" or "Nick the Greek's" car. That vehicle ran the same exact turbo as yours, and it did not reach full boost or "spool" below 3200 rpm.
In 5th gear it will. ;)

In 5th gear it will. ;)

True George took me out in a 3rd and 4th gear roll on city streets. But it still shouldn't reach full spool below 2500 rpm even in 5th gear with a 2.93 rear end. Unless you have evidence to support the contrary ... hint ...

I would post a video, however my camera is not working since my girlfriend dropped it! For those interested, anyone is more then welcome to check out the vehicle, full inspections are invited! I can't comment on the very first GT35R equipped M3 that ICS Performance produced. Different boost controllers, turbocharger hotside A/R's, exhaust manifolds, T3 or T4 housings, engine compression ratio's etc., all effect how and when a turbocharger spools! PM for anymore questions.

Hey, what kind of wheels and tires are those, they look like 18's

They are 18's! BMW Type 47 replicas with BMW center caps! Mint, no blemishes what so ever! Taking reasonable offers at this point, many interested buyers but not a new owner. Inspections are invited, all orginal paint, 51,000 original miles, built by the best BMW performance shop! Mint in every sense of the word. Contact me via phone (845)-629-1360.

Just wanna say that your car is amazing and if for some reason its still available in late may i just may buy it. But ya free up for a SICK car

amazing car

^^ Thank you sir!

Very nice and clean interior and the color combo I have been shopping for. What's the best offer so far?

Best offer so far was $22,000 over the phone and through email! The vehicle has to be seen in person to understand and driven to fall in love! Offers are welcome, however unless a potential buyer is fully aware of what goes into any F/I build, $22,000 for an ICS vehicle, with this mileage, condition, and options, it's not enough to let this vehicle go.

Sal, not happy with you. Good luck buddy. :stickoutt

What car are you buying the Aquamist kit for?

Sal, not happy with you. Good luck buddy. :stickoutt
Haha, don't worry Steve, if it sells, I won't be out of the BMW scene! Only another project will follow!

What car are you buying the Aquamist kit for?
The methanol kit will be for this vehicle! If it sells so be it, however she is still my project and I will continue to modify. I am in no rush to sell!

Haha, don't worry Steve, if it sells, I won't be out of the BMW scene! Only another project will follow!


The methanol kit will be for this vehicle! If it sells so be it, however she is still my project and I will continue to modify. I am in no rush to sell!

That's the way to care for your car. Free bump for you.

Mods you may close this thread! Thanks to all for the interest in the vehicle, proud to announce it has been SOLD!