i am wondering, if anyone here could check out a car for me?

I'm close to Orange. Send me a PM and we'll hook up.

Yo,
Rod

cee dee,

I went and looked at this car per your request. I just looked and started the car. I did not look it over 100%. It's a dealership and no one came out when I looked it over.
The owner said the car hadn't been started in a couple of weeks. It did start right up, but belched blue smoke on start. It smelled rich during the time it was running. It did appear to run smooth. The car was boxed in by other vehicles so I didn't put it in gear or try to move it.
The interior and exterior of the car leads me to believe it was not well taken care of. The car has been repainted in areas, which is evident as you will see by the overspray. The front grills are loose and the chrome trim is in the trunk.
The interior is hurting and there is nothing positive to say about it. The left blinker has a bulb out and the right seemed ok. The sunroof fully opened but the interior panel did not slide back when "popped up". Even the back seats were rough and had a seperation in a seam. MID has pixel issues.
I'll leave the rest to the pics and others to comment on.

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Overspray and paint issues, sunroof rust blisters, lenses on headlights rough. End pic is loose kidney grills & missing trim (in trunk). Paint buffed off at edge of corner panel behind door.


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Grill behind rear seats. Front seat leather cracked. Hole in shift boot. Crack in flasher. Missing sail panel. Pillar trim loose, both sides.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7255/850025cp7.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=850025cp7.jpg)
Chin spoiler missing.

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Phone number you could possibly call for some history on the vehicle.
No doubt I could have looked harder, but to be honest it seemed pointless. IMO it would take alot to turn her into what you want it to be.
I have the pics in full size if you are interested...

Yo,
Rod

yo rod thank you so much on the info.
that one is a roach. i rather pass on her

cee dee,

It is a roach bro. I didn't want to say too much, but would have if you seemed to be going for it.
I feel sorry for the person that buys it. The only way it would have been fun to look at this would have been if the real owner was there, so I could break his heart in two.

Yo,
Rod

Who the hell treated that car so poorly? Damn, what a disgrace! The PO really outta take a long walk on a short pier.

Mike- You are doing well learning what a good one is and what it will cost you one way or another. If you wait much longer, I'm seriously thinking of keeping mine for a daily driver and leave the others as garage queens! Compared to all the cars you've seen, this one is a creampuff that needs minor body dings fixed and full paint. It needs the lower spoiler piece,headliner,coin holder,few pixels out-very readable, can't think of anything else. You better frog soon!
http://www.satservice.com/850_92/

greg, i seriously like your car.
so far, the sales of my cars a supersluggish.
if i can't pull the trigger and you really want to part, by that time.
then i'll do whatever i can to spread the word.
it really would
not be fair, to keep you waiting.

No problem Mike, I was serious in saying I'm really thinking of just keeping it, so I'm really not going to list it anywhere. Word of mouth thru the forums is how it needs to go. I'm in no hurry and probably won't sell it unless someone comes looking for it and will pay the price. No pressure intended, I was just ribbing you! You really have done a good job educating yourself and when the right time comes for you and this or any other car, you will have made a wise purchase.

Rod-

You don't think the car is salvagebale? Maybe a good project car? (I don't know what the asking price is from the stealership).

Toy

No problem Mike, I was serious in saying I'm really thinking of just keeping it, so I'm really not going to list it anywhere. Word of mouth thru the forums is how it needs to go. I'm in no hurry and probably won't sell it unless someone comes looking for it and will pay the price. No pressure intended, I was just ribbing you! You really have done a good job educating yourself and when the right time comes for you and this or any other car, you will have made a wise purchase.
greg you're a real gent.
yeah, i learned a few good lessons and made friends along the way.:buttrock

Rod-

You don't think the car is salvagebale? Maybe a good project car? (I don't know what the asking price is from the stealership).

Toy
troy, the car is on evil bay. and the bid was about 5.300,-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-BMW-850i-V12-COUPE-296-H-P-CALIF-CAR-80-700-NEW_W0QQitemZ330215349437QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 30215349437 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=2518995&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2F1991-BMW-850i-V12-COUPE-296-H-P-CALIF-CAR-80-700-NEW_W0QQitemZ330215349437QQcmdZViewItem%3Fhash%3Di tem330215349437)


http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/img/autocheck/report/report_headlet_summary.gifReport Run Date: 02/27/2008
The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below.

VIN: WBAEG2318MCB73979 Year: 1991 Make: BMW Model: 8-Series 850i Style/Body: Coupe 2D Class: Upscale - Luxury Engine: 5.0L V12 EFI Country of Assembly: Germany Vehicle Age: 17 year(s) Calculated Owners: 5 Last Reported
Odometer Reading: 156,889
This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 3624-55 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection Section summaries
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0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame damage record
No recycling facility record http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/img/autocheck/report/large_table_bottom.gif
http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/img/autocheck/report/report_headlet_odometer.gif Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1991 BMW 8-Series 850i (WBAEG2318MCB73979) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.
0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
10,174 06/08/1992
13,963 08/07/1992
44,873 07/13/1994
62,847 02/03/1996
96,651 12/11/1997
100,347 06/21/2000
109,236 05/09/2001
109,236 05/09/2001
124,264 11/05/2003
137,431 10/16/2004
152,873 05/11/2006
156,443 10/02/2007
156,443 10/04/2007
156,850 10/31/2007
156,889 12/20/2007 http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/img/autocheck/report/large_table_bottom.gif
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1 Event(s) Reported: 5 Vehicle uses checked:
Fleet, rental, lease and/or taxi use record(s)
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record 2 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources
No corrected title record
No duplicate title record
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No fire damage incident record
No repossessed record
No theft record
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Report Run Date:: 02/27/2008 Vehicle: 1991 BMW 8-Series 850i (WBAEG2318MCB73979) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 06/08/1992 NJ 10,174




Independent Source INDEPENDENT INSPECTION/THEFT DETERRENT EQUIPPED 08/07/1992 NJ 13,963




Independent Source INDEPENDENT INSPECTION/THEFT DETERRENT EQUIPPED 07/13/1994 EASTERN REGION 44,873




Auto Auction AUCTION ANNOUNCED AS FLEET/LEASE 02/03/1996 CA 62,847


Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 04/21/1996 SANTA FE SPRINGS, CA
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE


REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Lien Reported) 12/11/1997 CA 96,651




State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 06/21/2000 CA 100,347




State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 05/09/2001 CA 109,236




Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 05/09/2001 CA 109,236


State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
EMISSION INSPECTION 06/16/2001 MONROVIA, CA


Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 11/05/2003 CA 124,264


State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
EMISSION INSPECTION 11/19/2003 REDLANDS, CA
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/29/2003 REDLANDS, CA


Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 10/16/2004 CA 137,431


Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 10/16/2004 CA
State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 11/24/2004 EL CAJON, CA
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/30/2004 EL CAJON, CA


Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported) 05/11/2006 CA 152,873




State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 10/02/2007 PACIFIC SW REGION 156,443




Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 10/04/2007 PACIFIC SW REGION 156,443




Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE 10/31/2007 CA 156,850


State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 11/29/2007 EL CAJON, CA
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 12/09/2007 EL CAJON, CA


Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 12/20/2007 PACIFIC SW REGION 156,889


Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE

Rod-

You don't think the car is salvagebale? Maybe a good project car? (I don't know what the asking price is from the stealership).

Toy

Toy and all the fellas,

As we know any car is "salvageable", But some relationships are best steered clear of. If this was a 67 vette, I'd be the first one on it.

I just deleted a bunch of stuff I wrote in response... I'll keep it short(er).
I've seen better for less.
The interior is shot.... headliner is tan and furry so I don't think it's original. The rest is falling apart and beat.
The exterior needs complete repaint and who know what they hid with that "splash job" (I hate splash jobs... I'd rather have beat original).
The tires are wagon wheels 19" somethings...

The motor did start without a hitch but really puffed. These motors are not known as hand grenades, but mileage was not a saving grace in this case. Lastly I did not inspect any mechanical aspects of this vehicle. I could do some with the right equipment and time, but would call for back-up. The ground was wet around the vehicle so crawling under was a minimum. Not like I'd actually fit anyways.

Yo,
BIG Rod :)

Don't feel bad Rod, I don't think anyone's skinny a$$ could get under one! I hate to break the dealer's heart but that car is not worth more than 2-3k, and still part it out.

SSC,

I agree... on all counts.
I know I don't come across as meek, but anyway that particular dealer just stayed in the office while I checked the car out. Bottom line is that even tho he showed some defects in eBay pics, he is well on his way to pissing off the now "Prospective" buyer. Whom upon receipt of such said vehicle... will flip the .... out.

Mike (cee dee) has done alot of research on this vehicle and no doubt others as well... stay patient my brother and it will happen. You need another one looked at... let me know.

Yo,
Rod