So this morning my wish came true..My 850i had a 350Z for breakfast..I had to stop and get a Script filled at CVS. I was pulling out of the parking lot and a Black 350Z went by..I stayed about 8 car lengths behind him until we came to a red light and I got beside him , 3 lanes wide 5:15am , Henry & Ridge Ave..I couldn't see him real good as he was tinted up like me.So just to be on the safe side I switched over to manual and dropped it down to first and waited for the green..Low and behold he nailed it when it went green and so did I..We were side by side for about 50ft and then I started to pull on him..When I hit 2nd his headlights were at my door..When 2nd was winding out , his lights were at my back bumper and I was still pulling on him..He left off of it and so did I..So I slowed down so he could get beside me and to my disbelief he gave ME a thumbs up!!! He was turning off so I returned my thumb and a honk of the horn..Now don't get me wrong he stayed with me just a little behind me..Actually with my car being 17yrs old and needing to go on a diet (4000.lbs) I thought he was going to get me.(old vs new) But my car still amazes me as she's not the fastest off the line and doesn't wake up till around 3500rpm,but when she gets to 3500rpm it's like being shot out of a cannon!! And the faster I go , the faster she gets.. But then again the 8series was designed for the Autobahn and is all top end and will run close to 200mph if tuned well.. So is this a Kill Story?? I don't know..All I do know is that I got'em,and I know he gave it all he had , and so did I...Now all you 350Z owners feel free to chime in and tell me no way , but all I can say is,"Way". And if the driver of the Black 350Z is reading this somewhere , nice run , fast car , true gentleman.......You made my week!!:buttrock

V12.........:drool:

nice run. congratz on the kill.

LoL what is with everyone trying to goad the G/Z owners into arguments? They usually only step in when misinformation is present, or something doesn't seem quite right.

However good story, and I would classify this as a kill. You pulled on him until he shut it down. That is cool he gave you a thumbs up also. Always nice to see actual enthusiasts on the road. :thumbup:

again a 350z kill. however, i saw a black 850 the other day. it was nice. never seen how one runs, but the V12 persuades me to think that the 850's got balls.

do the 850 have aftermarket S/C's? just curious!!

do the 850 have aftermarket S/C's? just curious!!No just chips..:) Big Balls..Lol...

Nice car man. It's always a fun day when an older car manages a win against the new generation.

op, your sig says black forest,, I was there this year... is that so for you also? I think I recognize the car

op, your sig says black forest,, I was there this year... is that so for you also? I think I recognize the carYes , that was me............:buttrock

... But then again the 8series was designed for the Autobahn and is all top end and will run close to 200mph if tuned well.. ...

Nice kill, but this statement kinda made me cringe. :confused

I ran one (850ci) in a slightly modded E36 M3 5-Spd and got walked pretty good.

The higher the speed, the bigger the gap.

I would definetly classify this as a kill as well. You wanna know why? B/c you were very humble about your story and it actually sounds believable. Glad to see the 350Z driver flash a thumbs up. Anyways nice runs, and nice 850i!!!

Nice kill, but this statement kinda made me cringe. :confusedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcOttE3tt8

I would definetly classify this as a kill as well. You wanna know why? B/c you were very humble about your story and it actually sounds believable. Glad to see the 350Z driver flash a thumbs up. Anyways nice runs, and nice 850i!!!Yes it happend just the way I described it.. Would've liked to talk to him afterwards to see if it had any mods to it other than the wheels , tires , slight drop , and tint..

I ran one (850ci) in a slightly modded E36 M3 5-Spd and got walked pretty good.

The higher the speed, the bigger the gap.You're right..the faster it goes the faster it gets..From 70mph on up it's kinda scary.. She shifts on her own out of 2nd gear at 85mph and out of 3rd at 130mph..Got out of it at 155 one morning as she was still pulling hard at that speed..This is my first German car..Always had the hot rods and pro street cars with high HP 600/700hp , BUT NONE OF THEM CAN COMPARE TO THIS CAR..It's just crazy fast at speed..:D

You're right..the faster it goes the faster it gets..From 70mph on up it's kinda scary.. She shifts on her own out of 2nd gear at 85mph and out of 3rd at 130mph..Got out of it at 155 one morning as she was still pulling hard at that speed..This is my first German car..Always had the hot rods and pro street cars with high HP 600/700hp , BUT NONE OF THEM CAN COMPARE TO THIS CAR..It's just crazy fast at speed..:D

That still blows my mind, 2nd gear up to 85mph. :eyecrazy

That still blows my mind, 2nd gear up to 85mph. :eyecrazyHey...if you ever get to Philly look me up...I'll let you take her out for a ride... No B.S...:) You remember my post from awhile back?? Titled ,"got my first flyby today." I tested the shift points for the non believers one morning on the way to work at 5am... It's the truth...

Nice write up! I love when all the details are covered in the OP. And I can't believe that car is a '91! It still looks awesome to me!


How quick are these 850i's? What's there specs? Anyone shine some light on the situation for me?

Nice write up! I love when all the details are covered in the OP. And I can't believe that car is a '91! It still looks awesome to me!


How quick are these 850i's? What's there specs? Anyone shine some light on the situation for me? They'll run out at around 190 if tuned well..Stock 850i is 300bhp..(with chips I'm up to 340,when the exhaust is done maybe 360.)The 850csi puts out around 385bhp..The hp rating on these cars is low IMHO.. At speed they run like they have 425 to 450hp...????????.... I still can't figure it out.:dunno

So far I think BMW has underrated a lot of theirs cars.

Like E39 540i and the E90/E92 335i for example

For some reason none of the M cars have really been underrated like
the normal ones.

They'll run out at around 190 if tuned well..Stock 850i is 300bhp..(with chips I'm up to 340,when the exhaust is done maybe 360.)The 850csi puts out around 385bhp..The hp rating on these cars is low IMHO.. At speed they run like they have 425 to 450hp...????????.... I still can't figure it out.:dunno

Nice run, but I had to chuckle at this one... there's no way you are gaining 40 hp from a chip with a BMW N/A engine and an additional 20 with an exhaust. BMW tunes their cars very well from the factory and any improvements are likely to be fairly marginal (i.e. not 60 hp) until you start spending big bucks/putting lots of mods on there, which for the M70 I'm not sure is possible. My car has about $5,000 in mods and I'm lucky to be at 30 hp over stock; of course, my car is much lower displacement and more strung-out, but I just can't fathom that it'd be that easy to extract 60 hp out of a superbly engineered German car.

Also, I think that "run like they have 425 to 450hp" comment can be chalked up to torque. What's their torque, like 330 ft. lbs.?

do the 850 have aftermarket S/C's? just curious!!

Dinan made Twin Turbo systems for them. idk if theyre still available.

Hey...if you ever get to Philly look me up...I'll let you take her out for a ride... No B.S...:) You remember my post from awhile back?? Titled ,"got my first flyby today." I tested the shift points for the non believers one morning on the way to work at 5am... It's the truth...

Yeah, that was a good story also. Made me start :drool:ing over your car, and I haven't stopped yet. :)


So far I think BMW has underrated a lot of theirs cars.

Like E39 540i and the E90/E92 335i for example

For some reason none of the M cars have really been underrated like
the normal ones.
I think alot of it can be chalked up to gearing, they seem to give the non ///Ms aggressive gearing to keep them still pretty quick on the road.

Dinan made Twin Turbo systems for them. idk if theyre still available.No longer available..:bawling..
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd139/pumpedTSI/miami_098_thm.jpg
92 E31 Dinan Stage III 850 Twin Turbo
(1 of 4)
625 Hp on 93 pump gas @ 14 psi 660 ft lbs torque

Nice run, but I had to chuckle at this one... there's no way you are gaining 40 hp from a chip with a BMW N/A engine and an additional 20 with an exhaust. BMW tunes their cars very well from the factory and any improvements are likely to be fairly marginal (i.e. not 60 hp) until you start spending big bucks/putting lots of mods on there, which for the M70 I'm not sure is possible. My car has about $5,000 in mods and I'm lucky to be at 30 hp over stock; of course, my car is much lower displacement and more strung-out, but I just can't fathom that it'd be that easy to extract 60 hp out of a superbly engineered German car.

Also, I think that "run like they have 425 to 450hp" comment can be chalked up to torque. What's their torque, like 330 ft. lbs.?http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwokkeQ5f2000 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=2518995&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%2F_W0QQsas sZwokkeQ5f2000) Here's the chip I got from Germany..If you go to the 8series board you'll see damn near everyone of them are running this chip..There's a current Thread about performance chips check it out..And Eisenmann claims 20hp gain from their race exhaust..I know they're both claims,but you can really feel the difference with the chips..IMHO..

Any 1/4 times stock?

Any 1/4 times stock?How's this?? 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile..
BMW
1971 BMW 1600 11.6 18.2
1968 BMW 2002 11.3 17.9
1983 BMW 318i 9.6 17.3
1984 BMW 318i 11.6 18.3
1990 BMW 318is 8.8 16.5
1991 BMW 318is 10.0 17.3
1992 BMW 318i 9.7 17.2
1994 BMW 318is 10.1 17.5
1995 BMW 318i 8.8 16.6
1995 BMW 318i Conv. 9.7 17.4
1995 BMW 318ti 8.9 16.6
1996 BMW 318ti 8.4 16.4
1977 BMW 320i 12.3 18.2
1980 BMW 320i 12.1 18.7
1980 BMW 320i Turbo 7.3 15.6
1984 BMW 325e 8.4 16.3
1985 BMW 325e 9.2 16.6
1986 BMW 325es 8.6 16.4
1987 BMW 325es 9.0 16.7
1988 BMW 325is 7.5 15.7
1988 BMW 325iX 7.9 15.9
1988 BMW 325i Conv. 7.7 15.7
1989 BMW 325i 7.5 15.5
1990 BMW 325i 7.8 16.0
1992 BMW 325i 7.8 15.8
1993 BMW 325i 8.4 16.5
1993 BMW 325is 7.4 15.7
1994 BMW 325i 7.4 15.5
1994 BMW 325is 7.2 15.9
1994 BMW 325i Conv. 7.3 15.9
1995 BMW 325i 7.7 16.0
1995 BMW 325i Conv. 9.1 16.9
1996 BMW 328i Sport 6.4 15.0
1998 BMW 328is 6.2 14.7
1999 BMW 328i 6.9 15.2
2001 BMW 330i 6.1 14.8
2004 BMW 330i 5.6 13.4 (C&D)
1979 BMW 528i 8.2 N/A
1982 BMW 528e 10.3 17.5
1983 BMW 533i 7.7 15.8
1985 BMW 524td 11.7 18.2
1986 BMW 524td 11.0 18.1
1986 BMW 535i 7.9 16.1
1989 BMW 535i 7.0 15.5
1990 BMW 525i 8.0 16.1
1990 BMW 535i 8.6 16.5
1991 BMW 525i 8.4 16.2
1992 BMW 525i 9.6 17.5
1993 BMW 525i Touring 10.0 17.8
1993 BMW 535i 8.2 16.3
2003 BMW 525i wagon-8.9, n/a
1993 BMW 540i 6.9 15.3
1994 BMW 530i 7.0 15.5
1994 BMW 530i Touring 8.9 16.7
1994 BMW 540i 7.9 16.0
1995 BMW 540i 6.2 14.8
1996 BMW 525i Touring 8.8 16.8
1996 BMW 540i Sport 5.8 14.4
1997 BMW 528i (auto) 7.5 15.8
1997 BMW 528i (manual) 6.8 15.3
2001 BMW 528i 7.8 16.1
1997 BMW 540i 6.2 14.6
1998 BMW 540i Sport 5.5 14.0
2001 BMW 540i (Automatic) 5.7 14.3
2001 BMW 540i 6-Speed 5.5 14.0
2005 BMW 545i 5.5 14.1 (C&D)
1977 BMW 630CSi 11.0 17.3
1983 BMW 633CSi 7.7 16.0
1985 BMW 635CSi 8.2 16.0
1987 BMW 635CSi 8.5 16.3
1988 BMW 635CSi 7.7 16.0
2005 BMW 645Ci 5.6 14.1 (C&D)
1980 BMW 733i (4spd) 8.4 16.6
1980 BMW 733i (Auto) 10.5 17.5
1982 BMW 745i 8.5 16.6
1986 BMW 735i 9.1 16.7
1987 BMW 735i 9.1 16.8
1988 BMW 735i 9.3 17.0
1988 BMW 750iL 6.5 14.8
1990 BMW 735i 10.3 17.4
1991 BMW 750iL 6.5 14.8
1993 BMW 740i 6.8 15.3
1993 BMW 750iL 7.7 15.8
1994 BMW 740iL 7.7 15.9
1994 BMW 750iL 7.7 15.9
1995 BMW 740i 8.4 16.6
1995 BMW 740iL 7.9 16.0
1995 BMW 750iL 6.3 14.8
1996 BMW 740i 7.7 15.9
1996 BMW 750iL 6.4 14.7
1999 BMW 750iL 7.3 15.5
2004 BMW 745i 6.0 14.6
1991 BMW 850i 7.4 15.6
1992 BMW 850i 7.3 15.6
2003 BMW 760il 5.7, n/a
1994 BMW 840Ci 7.4 15.6
1994 BMW 850CSi 5.3 13.9 (C&D April ‘94)
1994 BMW 850i 6.3 14.9
1998 BMW M Roadster 5.1 13.7
2002 BMW M Roadster 4.5 13.1
1999 BMW M Coupe 5.4 13.8
1981 BMW M1 6.2 14.6
1987 BMW M3 8.1 16.1
1988 BMW M3 7.1 15.4
1995 BMW M3 6.2 14.6
1995 BMW M3 Lightweight 5.3 13.9
1996 BMW M3 Automatic 6.7 15.3
1996 BMW M3 Luxury 6.6 14.9
1998 BMW M3 Sedan 5.5 14.0
2001 BMW M3 Coupe (U.S.) 4.8 n/a
2001 BMW M3 Convertible (U.S.) 5.4 n/a
2002 BMW M3 4.7 13.4
2004 BMW M3 4.8 13.6 (C&D)
2005 BMW M3 Dinan S3-R 4.4 12.9 (January 2006 C&D)
1988 BMW M5 6.3 14.6
1991 BMW M5 6.5 14.9
1993 BMW M5 6.2 14.6
2001 BMW M5 4.7 13.2
2002 BMW M5 4.8 13.3
2006 BMW M5 4.2 12.5 (January 2006 C&D)
1988 BMW M6 7.0 15.5
1997 BMW Z3 2.8 6.2 14.7
2001 BMW Z8 4.6 13.0
2002 BMW Z8 4.5 12.8
2004 BMW X3 3.0i 7.4 15.5 (C&D)
2002 BMW X5 4.6is 6.5 15.1
2003 BMW X5 3.0i 8.1 16.2
2005 BMW X5 4.8is 6.0 14.5 (C&D)
2003 BMW Z4 3.0i 5.4 14.2
2004 BMW Z4 3.0i 5.3 14.0 (C&D)
:):):):):):):):):):):)

good run!

you have a very nice car, but i think you may be over stating it a bit...
The video you posted of the top speed 850CSI run has shorter shift points then what you are claiming for your 850i, different gears or maybe the video wasn't going all out in the low gears?
Have you ever dynoed your car with the mods?
any 1/4 mile times?

How's this?? 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile..
BMW
...
1991 BMW 850i 7.4 15.6
1992 BMW 850i 7.3 15.6
2003 BMW 760il 5.7, n/a
1994 BMW 840Ci 7.4 15.6
1994 BMW 850CSi 5.3 13.9 (C&D April ‘94)
1994 BMW 850i 6.3 14.9
...
:):):):):):):):):):):)

dude! mid 15's is slooooooooooow. you sure that's right? any idea on trap speed?
i am guessing you have never run your car at the track.

good run!

you have a very nice car, but i think you may be over stating it a bit...
The video you posted of the top speed 850CSI run has shorter shift points then what you are claiming for your 850i, different gears or maybe the video wasn't going all out in the low gears?
Have you ever dynoed your car with the mods?
any 1/4 mile times?Yes that was a CSI..But they say a well tuned 850i /850ci will run just as fast..I plan on some Dyno Time in the near future and will post the results when done..As far as the shift points...I'm running an Auto the CSI is a manual..My car, 1st gear 42mph , 2nd gear 85mph , 3rd gear 130mph , and that's the car shifting on her own...with 1 more gear to go...Stock 2.65 Differential..

dude! mid 15's is slooooooooooow. you sure that's right? any idea on trap speed?
i am guessing you have never run your car at the track.Never been to the track yet but I plan to give it a run in the spring or summer and will post the true E.T. and Trap Speed...And 15's is slow..catch me from a 80mph roll,and she ain't to slow then...Lol.. She's all top end..very long legs..

[quote=Mark850;12276728]How's this?? 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile..
BMW


1983 BMW 633CSi 7.7 16.0
1991 BMW 850i 7.4 15.6
1992 BMW 850i 7.3 15.6

WHOA! My 633CSi And your 850I stock are not so different!

[quote=Mark850;12276728]How's this?? 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile..
BMW


1983 BMW 633CSi 7.7 16.0
1991 BMW 850i 7.4 15.6
1992 BMW 850i 7.3 15.6

WHOA! My 633CSi And your 850I stock are not so different!Ya know I always loved the E24..When I was in high school my friends father had a new 1980 633csi..He took it out one day when his father was out of town on bussiness and put a small dent in the fender..I took autobody shop in high school and he asked me to fix it for him..Well when I showed up at class in a brand new 633csi the teacher said get away from that car,I'll fix it,and he did..Of course I kept it for another 2 days afterwards for some seat time..God I loved that car,and if I didn't find a clean 8series,my next step was to find a nice clean 633/635csi..And yes they're close from 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times.

But then again the 8series was designed for the Autobahn and is all top end and will run close to 200mph if tuned well..

Nice kill. Very nice car. Back when I sold cars at a multi-line dealership in the NW suburbs if IL, a wealthy customer with a gaggle of cars said his 850i was the best car he owned. I heard him say it twice. This was while test driving a 500E. Remember those?

But this statement - no way. The video you supplied is great but the speedo is probably off by 10mph - notorious for any car at triple digits.

Not only that, 185mph is a long, long way from 200mph. Like 100+hp. Look at the 500hp Ms. The M6 barely touches 200mph with it's 7spd.

wow mark, a 2.65 on an auto? You oughta look into an lsd swap.

wow mark, a 2.65 on an auto? You oughta look into an lsd swap.The common upgrade for my car is the 3.91 LSD..I was going to do it but then I'll lose my top end , and I like my top end.....:D

Nice kill. Very nice car. Back when I sold cars at a multi-line dealership in the NW suburbs if IL, a wealthy customer with a gaggle of cars said his 850i was the best car he owned. I heard him say it twice. This was while test driving a 500E. Remember those?

But this statement - no way. The video you supplied is great but the speedo is probably off by 10mph - notorious for any car at triple digits.

Not only that, 185mph is a long, long way from 200mph. Like 100+hp. Look at the 500hp Ms. The M6 barely touches 200mph with it's 7spd.I've seen a few vids of M6's doing over 200mph.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O89UWHnFUl0

Good run! I love the 8s, such a clean body style, when will they make a successor?


Better yet, just bring back the body style with an S version of the N73

The common upgrade for my car is the 3.91 LSD..I was going to do it but then I'll lose my top end , and I like my top end.....:D

then go to a diff somewhere between the two. If you have enough oompf to stay ahead of -seemingly stock engine wise - pre 07 350zs, then you would be a very formidable opponent for many much tougher cars .

Ya I love the six series myself. When I was 6 I had a BMW 850i Toy car and ever since then I have been in love with that car. But my six series is up for sale because of the new thing we bought. 1992 Cadillac Eldorado later to find out we need a new engine. And my dad has a dept to pay back so we are selling both of my favorite cars we own. :( The 633CSi and a 1988 Cadillac DeVille that I saved up for 1 year and did little jobs everywhere to get enough money so my dad would buy it.(LOOOOOOOOOONG story on why I did that)

Nice kill. Very nice car. Back when I sold cars at a multi-line dealership in the NW suburbs if IL, a wealthy customer with a gaggle of cars said his 850i was the best car he owned. I heard him say it twice. This was while test driving a 500E. Remember those?

But this statement - no way. The video you supplied is great but the speedo is probably off by 10mph - notorious for any car at triple digits.

Not only that, 185mph is a long, long way from 200mph. Like 100+hp. Look at the 500hp Ms. The M6 barely touches 200mph with it's 7spd.
i thought that the 850 has a very proficient air dynamic

Nice kill. Very nice car. Back when I sold cars at a multi-line dealership in the NW suburbs if IL, a wealthy customer with a gaggle of cars said his 850i was the best car he owned. I heard him say it twice. This was while test driving a 500E. Remember those?

But this statement - no way. The video you supplied is great but the speedo is probably off by 10mph - notorious for any car at triple digits.

Not only that, 185mph is a long, long way from 200mph. Like 100+hp.Look at the 500hp Ms. The M6 barely touches 200mph with it's 7spd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7jInMxUaVQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfemx1YNaz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O89UWHnFUl0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jW3Szspf0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYDsV926qHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGyJX9JiVJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgxSHzaw47E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfySFfzq8vI

And that's just a small percentage of owners who have posted their top speed runs.

Kind regards

Der Abt

Some cool 850i and 850CSi vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDnp3tsTzpM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcOttE3tt8

The GPS run was 206mph, very impressive. No way will it do 211mph. I'm not familiar with top-speed runs but when Hans Stuck (sp?) hit 199mph on the Speed Test Drive, the acceleration was agonizingly slow. Not having time to watch the vids in detail, just how much longer does it take to go from, say, 196 to 200mph vs. 202mph vs. 206mph??

How's this?? 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile..
BMW
1983 BMW 633CSi 7.7 16.0
1988 BMW 750iL 6.5 14.8
1991 BMW 750iL 6.5 14.8
1991 BMW 850i 7.4 15.6
1992 BMW 850i 7.3 15.6
1994 BMW 840Ci 7.4 15.6
1994 BMW 850CSi 5.3 13.9 (C&D April ‘94)
1994 BMW 850i 6.3 14.9



WTF? 750il faster then a 850i and a 633csi?

I had the same chips in my 850.

Out of the hole, the car was a dog. Top speed....

Let me just say that my M5 walked ALL over the 850, both from a roll and out of the hole. All the way to the end of the line, the M5 is still pulling and the 850 had run out of steam.

4000 lbs 300hp and 332lbft
3500 lbs 311hp and 265lbft

And those numbers are stock w/o software. 850s are fast, theyre built for long periods of high speed.

And there is no M70 motor in the world that will run as well or perform nearly as well as an S70. (save the 860i on the boards)

860i? Whoa!

How's this?? 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile..
BMW
2004 BMW X3 3.0i 7.4 15.5 (C&D)
2002 BMW X5 4.6is 6.5 15.1
2003 BMW X5 3.0i 8.1 16.2
2005 BMW X5 4.8is 6.0 14.5 (C&D)
2003 BMW Z4 3.0i 5.4 14.2
2004 BMW Z4 3.0i 5.3 14.0 (C&D)
:):):):):):):):):):):)

this is all set in stone of coarse..........:rolleyes

850i's especially the autos are high speed cruisers. Even the 850 CSI wasnt built for drag racing...believe it or not.

the 8 series are beautiful cars, i would love to own one :)

Man V12 huh what you pay for fuel???? killa..

Man V12 huh what you pay for fuel???? killa..$3.39 a gallon just like everybody else!!!:lol......... Nah , I'd say it cost me around $40.00 to $50.00 a week..I drive it to work everyday , 12 mile round trip.. It's really not that bad on fuel depending on how you drive it.. When I bought it last year , I drove it 120 miles back.. I filled it up as soon as I picked it up in the mountains of Pa. Of course it started snowing like all hell on the way home..I drove 60 / 70mph all the way home and burned 1/4 tank of fuel..Now if I run her hard , forget about it.. And since I had the intake manifold gaskets replaced and injectors were cleaned/rebuilt/and flowed , you get into it and the wallet comes out often....

I do love the 8-series, when I am a little older, and have a little more money, I would love to pick one up, put it on a diet, and slap on a turbo...mmm :drool:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431515.



Regards,
M.R.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431515.



Regards,
M.R.I read your post and all of the replies.. When you responded with the, "Fast not Quick" statement.. I said to myself,how true! I never looked at my car that way before but you're so right with that statement..I was coming home from a BD party 2nite and on the highway I caught up to a SAAB Turbo when I was coming up the on ramp..Why I don't know ,but it was lowered and had rims on it..I got next to him at around 90 or so and he jumped out and I left him like he was parked!! I looked down and i was closing in on 130/135.And I got there in seconds..But your right it hard to find someone willing to start from a 100mph roll , as we both know that's when these cars are awake and ready to go at 100, but there's nowhere with enough room to let my car go..My limiters are removed also and would love to see what she will do flat out..

Styling-wise I was always more a fan of the E24's. I did have a chance to tool around in an 850i once though, and was really impressed how well it hid it's weight..really didnt feel like all of 4000lbs...and the smooooth motor was adream.

I use the Wokke chips from the guy in Germany, and they're excelent. I haven't explored the top speed potential yet, since it takes some planning to do safely. Maybe this summer....

Catfish- I am also a big fan of the E24 styling. However, regardless of what the figures say on paper, the performance difference in the real world is is light years apart. Driving the 6 after driving the 8 for a while, is a real let-down. Now if I could transplant the M-70, or even the M60 into the E24...

Regards,
M.R.

I use the Wokke chips from the guy in Germany, and they're excelent. I haven't explored the top speed potential yet, since it takes some planning to do safely. Maybe this summer....


Regards,
M.R. I have the Wokke chips and I love them.. Wolf's a great guy..:buttrock

That still blows my mind, 2nd gear up to 85mph. :eyecrazy

My 89 750 v12 goes to 60mph in FIRST and with the Dinan trans chip it should go up till 70-75ish. At the limiter/128mph I am just beginning 3rd gear so these things are built for the top speed.

WTF? 750il faster then a 850i and a 633csi?

The M5 is faster than the M6 currently, it maybe only a tenth of a second or something stupid like that but still.

Uhhh....75 in first?

Ok I flat out love the 850 and will never forget the time I saw an red M6 I believe with white interior at a McDonalds. Having stated that those chips must be hell, the 850 is very detuned or the Z driver sucked. By your own post (hate magazine bench racing) that table says an 850 is a mid 15 second quarter mile car. The Z stock depending on year and amenities is a mid 13 to mid 14 second car. A whole second in the quarter mile would be I am guessing at least 5 car lengths by a 100 mph. Now I will definitely flow with the 850s top end especially with that rear end, but you said this was from a light. Since you would have no reason to lie, I can only surmise your Z driver was weak sauce at best.

Sunset

The M5 is faster than the M6 currently, it maybe only a tenth of a second or something stupid like that but still.

If referrring to the "new ones", that is incorrect.

Uhhh....75 in first?

Who needs another gear when you go up to 75mph in first, right?:rolleyes

If referrring to the "new ones", that is incorrect.

My info must be off because for some reason I remembered seeing that the M6 was a tenth of a second slower than the M5.

nice ride RARE!

nice kill mark850 :) ur car looks awesome ! don't see many of them on the roads these days !!! it's a shame

nice ride RARE!Thank You..

nice kill mark850 :) ur car looks awesome ! don't see many of them on the roads these days !!! it's a shameThank you also..I try to take care of her the best I can..

nice kill. Will share pics of mine when I have enough posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcOttE3tt8

Yes it happend just the way I described it.. Would've liked to talk to him afterwards to see if it had any mods to it other than the wheels , tires , slight drop , and tint..

You're right..the faster it goes the faster it gets..From 70mph on up it's kinda scary.. She shifts on her own out of 2nd gear at 85mph and out of 3rd at 130mph..Got out of it at 155 one morning as she was still pulling hard at that speed..This is my first German car..Always had the hot rods and pro street cars with high HP 600/700hp , BUT NONE OF THEM CAN COMPARE TO THIS CAR..It's just crazy fast at speed..:D

I wanted more than anything to run my 91 3000GT VR4 against your exact car, I think that would be a freaking kick ass race, winding out from 0-180 on a big long flat road :evil2

I know everyone will talk about how unsafe this is... but it's just such a sweet even race that I'd love to see happen sometime. Never mind how freaking sweet it would be on video... but for maximum video sweetness there would have to be a faster car to video it from the lead.

I think a 3000GT VR4 would walk it though considering it's AWD 1/4 time is so much faster and probably runs near even top end.

i think G35, 350z, and FX35/45 drivers need to relax....they swear they are driving some high end luxury car....gets on my damn nerves.

No just chips..:) Big Balls..Lol...

And TWIN TURBOS! duh :D

i think G35, 350z, and FX35/45 drivers need to relax....they swear they are driving some high end luxury car....gets on my damn nerves.

:rolleyes

Anyway... I'm curious to know what type of power the OP's 850 is putting to the ground. To keep up with the much lighter and similarly powered 350Z from a launch is quite impressive.

350Z's tend to sound like they are trying even when they aren't, pay attention to them at an intersection sometime, they are just like mustangs. and also similarly to most mustangs, I don't tend to find most 350Z's very fast, and have only ever known 1 that was properly driven... granted the owner had been circuit racing and drag racing for years... They are definitely a car where a driver makes a huge difference, and most of them don't have driver's.

350Z's tend to sound like they are trying even when they aren't, pay attention to them at an intersection sometime, they are just like mustangs. and also similarly to most mustangs, I don't tend to find most 350Z's very fast, and have only ever known 1 that was properly driven... granted the owner had been circuit racing and drag racing for years... They are definitely a car where a driver makes a huge difference, and most of them don't have driver's.

Typical hater statement. The 350Z community has a fair amount of enthusiasts beyond the one you happen to know... this is what makes it really easy to verify the fact that it is a low 13 second car:

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840

Just as easy as you can imply that most 350Z's are piloted by imcompetent drivers, it can be implied that most BMW <fill in the blank> drivers are elitist douchebags who bought the car for the roundel. ('cept for me :D )

:rolleyes

The M5 is faster than the M6 currently, it maybe only a tenth of a second or something stupid like that but still.

Actually it's the opposite, M6 is faster because it weighs 100lbs less (maybe more). Don't know where you got that info.

Typical hater statement. The 350Z community has a fair amount of enthusiasts beyond the one you happen to know... this is what makes it really easy to verify the fact that it is a low 13 second car:

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840

Just as easy as you can imply that most 350Z's are piloted by imcompetent drivers, it can be implied that most BMW <fill in the blank> drivers are elitist douchebags who bought the car for the roundel. ('cept for me :D )

:rolleyes

I didn't post a "hater comment". I hinted that most of the driver's are not sports car enthusiast and racers, just as I would say about e46 owners if you asked me, you idiot.

I said that with exhaust they tend to sound like they are trying even when they aren't, meaning if he thought he launched, then gunned it, then the 350z got on it after already hitting an early 2nd, he wouldn't have reeled him in.

And make no doubt, I imply that 90% of driver's are not competent, regardless of what they are driving. That's exactly why I went in my chipped eta with 2.93 open diff and held onto an m roadster at his door till the end of 2nd and only got dropped in a quarter mile by 2 cars.

On a full tank of gas with 2.93 open gearing. Meaning without the spare, trunk tar, and only 2 gallons of gas, and with 3.25LSD, I would have left him.

That might sound like a lot, but it really isn't. I have never had any Z owners wow me with their capabilities much less their car's... nor have I any new BMW owners... most of the people driving these cars like them because they are pretty you twat. Nevermind that I cited that I knew a driver, a real driver, and he was fast in his 350Z.

Regardless, just because anyone has a negative opinion doesn't mean you can just blindly flame them. I didn't just come out posting "350Z's suck and are slow". they are great cars, and for the cost, they are about as fast as you're going to get.

Pull your head out of your ass then maybe you can hear through all of your own shit.

This one has run its course.