View Full Version : E60 550i vs STI


M3isgod
02-22-2008, 03:11 PM
I dont know what year the STI was, as I was driving my bosses 550i to drop it off from the airport

I was doing about 80-90 and testing it out

the car has gobs of power, especially once it gets over 3.500 rpm

as I was slwoing down I see this Subie get right next to me and start slowing down with me

I slowed down to about 60 and just kept it there, he kept pace with me and kept nudging his car forward

I looked over and he threw up his hands like, why dont I go so I motion over and at 60 we both got on it

I think I got on it a little later, he got the jump and I dont know what gear he was in

but he pulled on me immediaetly a car length, and by the time the E60 downshifted and started pulling I was already at 90 and caught up with him

at 130 or so I was about 6-8 car lengths ahead, and if I went faster probablly would have murdered the STI

but I slowed down and waited for the guy, he drove by and I gave thumbs up, he flipped me the bird

Why I have no idea

M3isgod
02-22-2008, 03:11 PM
BTW I want a 550i

M3isgod
02-22-2008, 03:13 PM
Maybe someone from the PNW knows the guy

short asian kid, red hat bacwards, darker maybe Cambodian. I have no idea why he flipped me off

made me kind of mad, a=

M3isgod
02-22-2008, 03:17 PM
I just checked the stats and the 550i runs a 13.7 in the quarter, it is not bad but I thought it was faster than that

all in all, I like the car, seems realy big and heavy compared to my E30 but it does have some power

Frogger
02-22-2008, 04:02 PM
I feel like a 550 should be much faster than 13.7. Maybe the autos suck from a dead stop.

A 550 is considerably faster than a 545, and a 545 is a little quicker than a 540, which can easily take an STI on the highway, so no surprise there. I've never driven a 550, but I'm sure it's an absolutely gem of a motor. Nice kill.

M3isgod
02-22-2008, 04:05 PM
I thought the faster we went the faster I started pulling on him

I think by 155 I would have bus lengths on the STI, all in all though, not bad for a heavy arse sedan

PointMEby
02-22-2008, 06:08 PM
I just checked the stats and the 550i runs a 13.7 in the quarter, it is not bad but I thought it was faster than that

all in all, I like the car, seems realy big and heavy compared to my E30 but it does have some power

Nice kill. What a sore loser sti poser. I wasn't suprised by the outcome as they are dog slow past 60mph. Better race for a stock E36 M3.
As far as 1/4th mile 550's are traping around 104-105+ with an automatic. They are on the same pace as an SMG E46 M3. I believe stock 545's to 13.7 with step and manuals even faster. I know 550's were tested multiple times around 13.5. They have trouble getting off the line due to the weight and open rear end. I have no doubt a 6 speed would be a low 13 with enough grip.

detroit635csi
02-22-2008, 06:15 PM
ummm....sti is faster than the 550i.....soo yeah... hmm

thedaddy
02-22-2008, 06:18 PM
Nice run.

I am not surprised you can pull on a stock STI at higher speeds. They need a little help with tuning and they have the aerodynamics of a bus.

They are not however dog slow past 60. It is stupid to even say that.

The older ones pull crazy hard to the top of 4th gear which is around 90. The gap to fifth is pretty large and they will pull less so in fifth. The STI comes stock with a little turbo and they just fall flat up top.

A stock E36 M3 is not in the same league as either car in this story.

bigbeansm3
02-22-2008, 06:25 PM
ummm....sti is faster than the 550i.....soo yeah... hmm


They are faster in the 1/4 because they get a silly launch. The 550i has a higher trap speed than the scoobie, and should pull one hard on the highway.

O, and racing your boss's car...nice lol

PointMEby
02-22-2008, 06:29 PM
ummm....sti is faster than the 550i.....soo yeah... hmmYep and BMW's have v-tech. Since when does a car that has a very difficult time trapping over 100 beat a car that can trap 106 stock..They are faster in the 1/8th mile if the 550 is on street tires..you will be hard pressed to find a stock one that can run lower than 13.5 unless that driver is adequate and experienced (something that difficult to find in the evo/sti crowd).

Orxan4ik
02-22-2008, 06:35 PM
...a 540, which can easily take an STI on the highway...

orly? :shifty

detroit635csi
02-22-2008, 06:41 PM
i would like to see a stock 540 take a stock sti on the highway...

of course i would also like to see alot of other things that can be imagined up, but again... thats just imagination...probably not going to happen....unless the sti driver is 16 never driven manual and misses every gear.....but of course... this is possible... with all the stupid little rich fast and furious kids running about...

detroit635csi
02-22-2008, 06:45 PM
...put some turns in the mix and we can see if the 550 will take the sti... probaly not... trapping times? really? comeon now...

PointMEby
02-22-2008, 06:49 PM
...put some turns in the mix and we can see if the 550 will take the sti... probaly not... trapping times? really? comeon now...

yes because trap speeds indicate how fast a car is once it gets going...not E.T. Unless you race a quarter mile at a time.

screwbiedoo15
02-22-2008, 06:51 PM
:lol

trevordr
02-22-2008, 07:18 PM
Uh stock STI goes low 13s @ 105


Exact same as trap as 550 with a lower ET




Soooooo....



EDIT: Also, I'm surprised how many people seem to find "stock" STIs everywhere. From what i've seen it's hard to find one without a tune, and that alone puts it in 335i territory aka mid 12's @ 108-110

trevordr
02-22-2008, 07:24 PM
Yep and BMW's have v-tech. Since when does a car that has a very difficult time trapping over 100 beat a car that can trap 106 stock..They are faster in the 1/8th mile if the 550 is on street tires..you will be hard pressed to find a stock one that can run lower than 13.5 unless that driver is adequate and experienced (something that difficult to find in the evo/sti crowd).

LOL I dare you to go to any autocross meet and try your skills against an Evo/STI. They are VERY easy cars to drive fast and E36M3s just can't compete...ever. Don't even mention a 540/45/50... that's a family sedan with a big engine.

PointMEby
02-22-2008, 07:25 PM
Uh stock STI goes low 13s @ 105

Exact same as trap as 550 with a lower ET




:lol:lol:lol.

trevordr
02-22-2008, 07:34 PM
:lol:lol:lol.

What does the e36m3 trap? 99?


STOCK STI 13.5 @ 105 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-6985.html






BTW I had to go to the 5th page just to find that time. Have fun running stock wrxs and LOSING:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol



edit: Here's some food for thought for all you 540 and e36m3 owners who "destroy" stock sti's


2005 STI 13.043 @ 104.990 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-7776.html just exhaust
2005 STI 13.185 @ 104.183 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-13479.html STOCK
1997 STI 13.221 @ 104.650 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-13479.html exhaust only... SAME YEAR AS E36M3 LOL


Most of the times are in the low-mid 13's at 102-104 but a few get to 105. All of those times are easily good enough to beat even an e46m3, at least up to 130mph (the OPs ending speed).

PointMEby
02-22-2008, 07:49 PM
What does the e36m3 trap? 99?STOCK STI 13.5 @ 105 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-6985.htmlBTW I had to go to the 5th page just to find that time. Have fun running stock wrxs and LOSING:lol:lol:lol:lol:lolWhy are you posting dragtimes of cars that i've taken down the strip before many times? Even worse a time slip that I saw months ago which was made fun of on WRXatlanta for its hilarity. Even when I netted a 1.88 60ft @13.4 it wouldn't trap higher then 99.8mph. I'd love to see a stock WRX take a stock M3 from a roll. I believe one of my close friends has an STi and another with a WRX so I guess* running/tracking/dragging/racing them isn't in my history. Oh B.T.W no bolt on WRX will beat my personal M3 outside of a dig corolla man. Ask me how I know.

2005 STI 13.185 @ 104.183 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-13479.html STOCK2005 STI 13.043 @ 104.990 http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-7776.html just exhaust

Wow Cobb stage 2, full tune and 17lbs comes stock these days wow?

To enlighten you with an open downpipe and full exhaust and no tune they will run 13.0@102+ like the first one you posted...which probably has a boost controller etc. due to its lack of info besides full exhaust. I know because i've been a passenger and it still managed 13.3@101 with those mods. Enjoy yourself a 340awhp STi just pulled into my driveway

Orxan4ik
02-22-2008, 08:00 PM
edit: Here's some food for thought for all you 540 and e36m3 owners who "destroy" stock sti's

whos the 540 owner that claimed he can destroy an STi? :confused

bigbeansm3
02-22-2008, 09:01 PM
Most of the times are in the low-mid 13's at 102-104 but a few get to 105. All of those times are easily good enough to beat even an e46m3, at least up to 130mph (the OPs ending speed).


:lol

Sorry, but no.

Evo's and Sti's, in stock trim, are only considered fast cars because of the launch.

If you put an e46 m3 on drag radials (to make the launch comparable to AWD) you get a mid 12 sec 1/4 mile. With a good driver you are looking at a 107-109 mph trap speed, while STi's rarely manage over 103. That 4-6 MPH difference in trap speed is HUGE.

The car in below video is on DR's, despite the fact that it says stock in the description.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=84in-OgZpqY

e46 m3's pull on sti's from a roll.

RedS60R
02-22-2008, 10:21 PM
Uh stock STI goes low 13s @ 105


Exact same as trap as 550 with a lower ET



I guess that's why I am having a slight problem with the outcome......so the cars are trapping within 0-2mph of each other and yet the 550 puts 8 cars on the sti......that doesn't add up......

thedaddy
02-22-2008, 10:22 PM
I have never seen an STI trap less than 103.

Orxan4ik
02-22-2008, 11:02 PM
magazine racing FTMF L-O-S-E!!! Point is, OP claims 6-8 CLs from 60-130 WITH THE LATE DOWNSHIFT!!! So here it goes :bs:bs:bs:bs:bs:bs:bs:bs:bs

evo connevo
02-23-2008, 01:28 AM
6-8 cars to 130 seems a little far fetched. Sti aren't monsters on the highway but they do pull well. Usually you will see traps from 100-105.

bigbeansm3-the e46m trap will go down with slicks. That car isn't going to trap 107-109 regardless of tire or driver. The better the launch, the lower the trap speed usually.

fusionchicken
02-23-2008, 06:51 AM
lol i dunno why a stock STi is so slow on bimmerforums

thedaddy
02-23-2008, 11:23 AM
lol i dunno why a stock STi is so slow on bimmerforums


The same reason a GTR is. Fan-boy-person-ism.

bigbeansm3
02-23-2008, 02:52 PM
6-8 cars to 130 seems a little far fetched. Sti aren't monsters on the highway but they do pull well. Usually you will see traps from 100-105.

bigbeansm3-the e46m trap will go down with slicks. That car isn't going to trap 107-109 regardless of tire or driver. The better the launch, the lower the trap speed usually.


Did you watch the vid i posted?

The car clearly traps 109.

As far as 6-8 cars, that is a big gap...im thinking a missed shift or something had to have occurred here.

EvilEmpirE
02-23-2008, 02:55 PM
Uh stock STI goes low 13s @ 105


Exact same as trap as 550 with a lower ET




Soooooo....



EDIT: Also, I'm surprised how many people seem to find "stock" STIs everywhere. From what i've seen it's hard to find one without a tune, and that alone puts it in 335i territory aka mid 12's @ 108-110

Uhhhhh......a stock 550i will spank a stock STI from a roll/highway pull.....which is what was stated in this post. An STI falls flat on its face after 90 MPH.......whereas a 550i will just get into its power range at 100 MPH. Done any comparison pulls my friend? If u did....you would actually know a thing or two............

kiley_sean
02-23-2008, 05:17 PM
Where are you guys finding these bone stock STis?!!

If you go STi-hunting, you may get lucky finding a stock STi example every once in awhile, but you'll get burned by many modded ones in the process.

thedaddy
02-23-2008, 05:20 PM
Where are you guys finding these bone stock STis?!!

If you go STi-hunting, you may get lucky finding a stock STi example every once in awhile, but you'll get burned by many modded ones in the process.

As an STI owner I know a lot of STI guys and none that I know are stock.

kiley_sean
02-23-2008, 05:30 PM
Same here (well..not an STi owner) and of the bazillion STis running around in chucktown, only one is bone stock...and that is because he just bought it new and hasn't a chance to buy mods ('07 limited) But I haven't seen him lately, sooo...he probably has atleast a TBE and tune on it by now.

To buy an Evo or STi just to keep it stock is beyond me and everyone else who owns one. As much as I hate the word..they are "Tuner" cars and the sheer volume of affordable aftermarket upgrades are too enticing to just keep the car stock with a paper filter, stock boost and a restrictive exhaust system..

Fiziks
02-23-2008, 07:01 PM
whos the 540 owner that claimed he can destroy an STi? :confused

What I wanna know. My friend just got a 07 STi and it's stock, I have a dinan intake/software on my car. from 60-130 he pulled on me by 1-2 CL over the 4 runs we did.

Orxan4ik
02-23-2008, 07:13 PM
What I wanna know. My friend just got a 07 STi and it's stock, I have a dinan intake/software on my car. from 60-130 he pulled on me by 1-2 CL over the 4 runs we did.

really? that aint bad at all, if u ask me!!! Not to sound cocky, but ur an automatic with the VANOS model intake manifold. I think my year 540/6 would probably keep up with one then, but definitely not destroy an STi... that is if (big IF) you can find one stock

giterdone
02-23-2008, 10:39 PM
perhaps the 6-8 cls was misrepresented. It is hard to judge distance from one's rear view mirror.

brentxzi
02-23-2008, 11:22 PM
I smoked an sti in my e350. I pulled behind it and gunned it and so did he. I ended up passing him and beating him. So you should definently own an sti.

thedaddy
02-24-2008, 01:17 AM
I smoked an sti in my e350. I pulled behind it and gunned it and so did he. I ended up passing him and beating him. So you should definently own an sti.

riiiiiight

giterdone
02-24-2008, 12:20 PM
riiiiiight

I am thikning the STi was cruising in 5th gear, and decided to humor the benz.

thedaddy
02-24-2008, 12:22 PM
I am thikning the STi was cruising in 5th gear, and decided to humor the benz.

Could be.

evo connevo
02-24-2008, 06:37 PM
Did you watch the vid i posted?

The car clearly traps 109.

As far as 6-8 cars, that is a big gap...im thinking a missed shift or something had to have occurred here.

12.47 at 109 is 03-04 svt cobra territory. I don't see this m being stock or without weight reduction. The power-weight just don't add up. With a crazy launch to get 12.47 stock, your trap won't go up 3 mph. I wasn't there so it doesn't really matter, I was just going by other times I have seen for the same car as well as similarly performing ones.

bigbeansm3
02-24-2008, 08:40 PM
It is definately possible to increase the trap speed by gaining more traction, case and point:

Bone stock C6 Z06 on stock tires, running a 127.2mph trap speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdR3WV9tLk


The same car, on drag radials, running a 129.5mph trap speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469NvIOiz7U

As far as the M3, no, the numbers do not add up if you put the weight/power into a "horsepower calculator", but lets consider a change in gearing to show the accuracy of a HP calc. If you change gearing you can significantly change your ET without changing the weight or power of the vehicle. My point is, those calculators are inaccurate at best.

Also, a better launch will not hurt the trap speed. Some cars have shown lower traps on DRs than street tires, but any time i've seen this the outer diameter of the drag radial has not matched the street tire, therefore rendering the comparison void.

Think of it this way. If a given car can accelerate to 20mph by the 60ft mark on a street tire, than it has the remaining distance to accelerate from 20mph onward. If the same car switches to a better tire, and can now accelerate to 30mph at the 60ft mark, it has the remaining distance to accelerate from 30mph onward. All things similar, (tire weight and diameter) there is no reason that the car with the better tires should finish at a lower speed.

heezyo2o
02-24-2008, 09:38 PM
A 550i can easily pull on a stock STI on the freeway. With a gap that large though, I think it's obvious that the STI got off the gas.

mihalis
02-24-2008, 10:48 PM
The 550 is a sick ride...especially the new one for 2008 with the sport package...but once you equip it pretty well, you might as well get a M5 :)

You are one lucky guy to get a chance to drive that, and race it on top of that! Nice kill!

heezyo2o
02-25-2008, 02:20 AM
Could be.

The e-class is just too heavy, but the 3.5L engine in a smaller benz matches up well against a STI from a roll.

cky751
02-25-2008, 02:41 AM
wadda jerk/noob, He should have known that bimmers are monsters on the freeway.

thedaddy
02-25-2008, 01:14 PM
The E350 weighs 3700 lbs and has 268 horsepower.

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2006&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=E-Class&trimid=-1

The STI weighs 3200 lbs and has 300 horsepower.

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2004&make=Subaru&model=Impreza&trimid=-1

STI > E350 by a sizable margin.

carrrnuttt
02-25-2008, 01:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INt23OqYSTs

Stock STi vs a nicely modded Mustang GT from a 65 roll. I am pretty sure that GT with its mods can keep up with or more likely beat, any stock 540i even from a roll.

cky751
02-25-2008, 03:46 PM
there is no way a stock 540i can take a stock sti, the sti weighs much less and has 20 more hp.

E36FTW
02-25-2008, 04:43 PM
I'm not supporting any sides here, but you guys are all kind of being idiots trying to compare races from a roll to those from a dig. I mean it's obvious a V8 will toast a 4-banger on the highway, but the STi will eat it alive from a dig/in autox. I mean just totally different things.

All I'm saying is, when someone says a 550 can beat an STi on the highway, you can't argue back saying one car can just "beat" another, especially when they're very different. That's only applicable when you're comparing highway to highway, or autox to autox, or 1/4 mi to 1/4 mi. Use some sense people. :rolleyes

M3isgod
02-25-2008, 05:29 PM
Ok guys maybe I did not see realy if it was 6 or 8 car lengths, its hard when you are holding on for dear life to measure car lengths behind you

Like I said he jumped and got a car lenght right away

but I know that by 130 I wass pulling car lengths on him easily, and if we went more than that by 155mph, probablly a couple busses on the STI

either way though, the car did not sound loud, so I assume it was stock, I did not realy have time to ask him after he flipped me a bird

but like someone said, on the freeway pull the 550i iowns, but everywhere else the STI owns

except maybe comfort and pimp factor

mihalis
02-26-2008, 01:28 AM
except maybe comfort and pimp factor

:lol:lol That is way too funny, but so true...only true car guys know about the STi, but as soon at you say BMW, you are already in a different class!

brentxzi
02-27-2008, 07:58 PM
I am thikning the STi was cruising in 5th gear, and decided to humor the benz.

Not true at all. He was completely on it and I didn't pass him until we got to around 85+. I ended up stopping somewhere over 100. The e350 is quick in a straight line. I dont know how somone wouldn't believe a rear wheel drive car with 7 gears and nearly the same horsepower stayed even with an sti then kicked it's ass at higher speeds. Thats whats always going to happen with a rear wheel drive car vs an all wheel drive car. :redspot

Also I would rather have a e350 any day over an sti. Same goes for the 335 :)

Wolfen
02-28-2008, 10:07 AM
I'm not supporting any sides here, but you guys are all kind of being idiots trying to compare races from a roll to those from a dig. I mean it's obvious a V8 will toast a 4-banger on the highway, but the STi will eat it alive from a dig/in autox. I mean just totally different things.

All I'm saying is, when someone says a 550 can beat an STi on the highway, you can't argue back saying one car can just "beat" another, especially when they're very different. That's only applicable when you're comparing highway to highway, or autox to autox, or 1/4 mi to 1/4 mi. Use some sense people. :rolleyes


First well thought out post on this thread.

M3isgod
02-28-2008, 10:53 AM
good post, yes I am awar the STI destroys the 550i in every other performance factor, I was however utterly suprised how hard the 5er pulled

thus the drivers reason to flip me a bird probablly

oh well, life goes on right

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 11:14 AM
First well thought out post on this thread.

It is well thought out unless you realize it is factually inaccurate.

This part here-

I mean it's obvious a V8 will toast a 4-banger on the highway

This is a generalization that is simply not correct. Can a 360 horsepower fuhrer wagon V8 toast a 750 horsepower 4 cylinder EJ257? Of course not.

People need to get past engine configuration and focus on horsepower. The number of cylinders is not relevant to power. Of course a larger engine can be developed to make more power than a smaller engine but that is not the point here. Cylinder count does not matter. Power does.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 12:34 PM
Not true at all. He was completely on it and I didn't pass him until we got to around 85+. I ended up stopping somewhere over 100. The e350 is quick in a straight line. I dont know how somone wouldn't believe a rear wheel drive car with 7 gears and nearly the same horsepower stayed even with an sti then kicked it's ass at higher speeds. Thats whats always going to happen with a rear wheel drive car vs an all wheel drive car. :redspot

Also I would rather have a e350 any day over an sti. Same goes for the 335 :)

More bad info with nothing to support it. The E350 has far less horsepower and far more weight. The advantage of RWD over AWD is grossly over stated in most cases and has never been accurately quantified.

It is likely the AWD subaru drive train is more efficient and lighter than the luxo-barge Mercedes drive train as even Mercedes staplers weigh 80 pounds.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 12:35 PM
:lol:lol That is way too funny, but so true...only true car guys know about the STi, but as soon at you say BMW, you are already in a different class!

True. Most BMW drivers I know have no idea about cars and are just in for the name plate.

dsycks
02-28-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm feeling like calling BS on this one. First off this dude posts to his post multiple times before anyone else even cares.

Secondly STIs are fast. I know because I try to drag them around Mid Ohio and other tracks and they are fierce. I also know that I would take my chances against any big BMW. They do well from a roll as the traction is not an issue and they are geared well but they are also big portly cars and power to weight is what it's all about.

So once again... love me some BMWs but this post is just silly.

Then again maybe it was a broken WRX?

AlpineCI
02-28-2008, 01:14 PM
hey bigbeansm3..are you really puttin a 4.4L engine in your 3 series?

Wolfen
02-28-2008, 01:33 PM
It is well thought out unless you realize it is factually inaccurate.

This part here-



This is a generalization that is simply not correct. Can a 360 horsepower fuhrer wagon V8 toast a 750 horsepower 4 cylinder EJ257? Of course not.

People need to get past engine configuration and focus on horsepower. The number of cylinders is not relevant to power. Of course a larger engine can be developed to make more power than a smaller engine but that is not the point here. Cylinder count does not matter. Power does.


Then BMW should start putting 400 HP V twins in their cars, because you know, like you said, the cylinder count does not matter, only power. :shifty

IMO.

The cylinder does count. Counts for alot. In fact it's critical and im not going to write a book explaining why.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 02:08 PM
Then BMW should start putting 400 HP V twins in their cars, because you know, like you said, the cylinder count does not matter, only power. :shifty

IMO.

The cylinder does count. Counts for alot. In fact it's critical and im not going to write a book explaining why.

When determining which car will be faster on the highway it does not count. Power does. Of course with regards to smoothness, sound and other qualities cylinder count does matter.

Would a 360 horsepower V8 pull on a 600 horsepower turbo charger V twin?

M3isgod
02-28-2008, 02:12 PM
I'm feeling like calling BS on this one. First off this dude posts to his post multiple times before anyone else even cares.

Secondly STIs are fast. I know because I try to drag them around Mid Ohio and other tracks and they are fierce. I also know that I would take my chances against any big BMW. They do well from a roll as the traction is not an issue and they are geared well but they are also big portly cars and power to weight is what it's all about.

So once again... love me some BMWs but this post is just silly.

Then again maybe it was a broken WRX?


all right you know it all dont you LOL

yes power to weight ratio

well buddy buddy, there is a small difference there when you are on the highway and start off from freeway speeds

the gearing and the powerful V8 of the 550i overpowered the STI, is that hard to understand

or are you still in disbelief, honestly I was, I thought the STI was going to walk me, but I was wrong


either way I love me some STI too and like I said in all other performane aspects the 5er cant touch it

SurfdogCP
02-28-2008, 02:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INt23OqYSTs

Stock STi vs a nicely modded Mustang GT from a 65 roll. I am pretty sure that GT with its mods can keep up with or more likely beat, any stock 540i even from a roll.

What mods did the mustang have? I've beaten several stock Mustang GTs in my 540i from a dig an a roll (usually by about 1/2 car length) but I don't think I'd stand a chance against an STi.

giterdone
02-28-2008, 03:36 PM
thedaddy is right. Cylinders don't mean squat in all honesty. Why does the I4 that the s2000 uses, mop the floor with the v6 that the Ford Mustang uses? THe mustang has more cylinders, clearly it should be the victor. :rolleyes:rolleyes

There are many factors to determine who would win, and the # of cylinders just is not one of them.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 03:45 PM
A 360 horspower yacht beating a 300 horsepower STi is not that surprising at higher speeds.

As speeds surpass 100 mph aerodynamics becomes the single most imprtant factor in acceleration. The STi is a smooth through the air as a parachute. The BMW is design as a high speed cruiser.

As an STI owner I have no really problem understanding a more powerful sedan could pull away from a stock STi above 100 mph. Below 100 where the gearing of the STi is better suited and the aero has not taken over would be another story.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 03:46 PM
What mods did the mustang have? I've beaten several stock Mustang GTs in my 540i from a dig an a roll (usually by about 1/2 car length) but I don't think I'd stand a chance against an STi.

Are you still in St. Augustine? We can give it a try.

dsycks
02-28-2008, 04:45 PM
all right you know it all dont you LOL

Actually what I'm getting at is that you seem to come off as if you are FOS.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 05:02 PM
Actually what I'm getting at is that you seem to come off as if you are FOS.

engrish is his second or third language so he may lack nuance some times but he is a good dude.

VIPLINE
02-28-2008, 07:35 PM
A big powerful fast V8 like the 550i vs a 2.5L turbo on the freeway. Unless the STI is tuned.....otherwise i think the 550i can take out the STI without any problem.

thedaddy
02-28-2008, 08:43 PM
A 360 horsepower car like the 550i vs a 300 horsepower car on the freeway. Unless the STI is tuned.....otherwise i think the 550i can take out the STI without any problem above 100 mph.

I fixed it for you.

giterdone
02-28-2008, 10:34 PM
I fixed it for you.

Good man. :thumbup:

SurfdogCP
02-29-2008, 09:31 AM
Are you still in St. Augustine? We can give it a try.
Unfortunately, at the moment I'm in Virginia. If you can hold on for a while though I'm taking a new job in Miami in May and I'll be stopping for a week or so in St. Augustine. So maybe then.

Seriously though... Having driven the STi and actually the Subaru rally car as well, I really doubt I could hang. Maybe at 100+ I might have a chance due to my low drag coeficient. But I'd be surprised.

giterdone
02-29-2008, 09:45 AM
Unfortunately, at the moment I'm in Virginia. If you can hold on for a while though I'm taking a new job in Miami in May and I'll be stopping for a week or so in St. Augustine. So maybe then.

Seriously though... Having driven the STi and actually the Subaru rally car as well, I really doubt I could hang. Maybe at 100+ I might have a chance due to my low drag coeficient. But I'd be surprised.

I smell a race from 120 on baby. Go 540!!1!1!111!1!!!

kosehhamashoon
02-29-2008, 10:36 AM
that alone puts it in 335i territory aka mid 12's @ 108-110

Since when are 335's running mid 12's @ 108-110? Or did you mean tuned?

silver g
02-29-2008, 02:43 PM
I dont know what year the STI was, as I was driving my bosses 550i to drop it off from the airport

I was doing about 80-90 and testing it out

the car has gobs of power, especially once it gets over 3.500 rpm

as I was slwoing down I see this Subie get right next to me and start slowing down with me

I slowed down to about 60 and just kept it there, he kept pace with me and kept nudging his car forward

I looked over and he threw up his hands like, why dont I go so I motion over and at 60 we both got on it

I think I got on it a little later, he got the jump and I dont know what gear he was in

but he pulled on me immediaetly a car length, and by the time the E60 downshifted and started pulling I was already at 90 and caught up with him

at 130 or so I was about 6-8 car lengths ahead, and if I went faster probablly would have murdered the STI

but I slowed down and waited for the guy, he drove by and I gave thumbs up, he flipped me the bird

Why I have no idea

He gave you the bird b/c what you don't know is that was your boss's son in the STI. BTW Memo from your boss: Pack up your $hit. Your fired!!!

Racing the boss's car is a no-no :nono

M3isgod
02-29-2008, 02:45 PM
He gave you the bird b/c what you don't know is that was your boss's son in the STI. BTW Memo from your boss: Pack up your $hit. Your fired!!!

Racing the boss's car is a no-no :nono


shut up and go to your nissan forum

silver g
02-29-2008, 02:51 PM
shut up and go to your nissan forum

Why? It's not my fault you are the dumb @ss who races his boss's car and then posts it all over the internet. Dude WTF would you have done if you wrecked it, and how would you explain that one? :eyecrazy

Seriously you have got to be retarded.

M3isgod
02-29-2008, 02:54 PM
Why? It's not my fault you are the dumb @ss who races his boss's car and then posts it all over the internet. Dude WTF would you have done if you wrecked it, and how would you explain that one? :eyecrazy

Seriously you have got to be retarded.


how about you open your mouth and I stick my penor down it and you swallow a nice hot one

I think that is a better analogy of me, call me a sexual predator towards little fags that come over from Nissan forums to bimmerforums

giterdone
02-29-2008, 03:03 PM
This one is done.

I won't be surprised if a time out is mysteriously applied.